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PeterN 11-23-2012 01:58 PM

Re: [SI] - Curves.
 
On 11/23/2012 3:46 AM, Eric Stevens wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 19:29:41 -0800, Savageduck
> <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2012-11-22 19:17:52 -0800, Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> said:
>>
>>> I nearly gave up when I read:
>>>
>>> "Find curves in unusual places. Use shadows and reflections to
>>> curve what's straight and straighten what's curved".
>>>
>>> I thought I knew what was wanted. The mandate was calling for an
>>> interplay of light, shade and reflections to change the shape of
>>> objects as seen by the viewer.
>>>
>>> I saw this as the kind of photography I have never done but which has
>>> appeared in books published by eminent photographers. What I found
>>> difficult was that we have been in the midst of equinoctial gales,
>>> rain, dense clouds and general misery, otherwise as known as spring.
>>> I couldn't see any way that I was going to be able to exploit any
>>> useful interplay of light and shade outside of a studio, which I don't
>>> own.
>>>
>>> I struggled and experimented with a few shots and had almost got to
>>> the point of submitting "something completely different" when we had a
>>> flurry of exemplar car body parts which certainly typified curves but
>>> were taken in a clear light which gave almost no indication of shadows
>>> or reflections. I thought "I can match them" and went on to submit the
>>> three I did.
>>>
>>> More recently I have read of images which had been rejection as a
>>> result of being "excessively Photoshopped". I wonder what would have
>>> happened if I had submitted my original.
>>>
>>> I started with https://dl.dropbox.com/u/31088803/DSC_0176.JPG which is
>>> a tunnel on the 2'-0" gauge 'Driving Creek' scenic railway. See
>>> http://www.drivingcreekrailway.co.nz/ for info about the railway.

>>
>> Nice! I think it would have fit quite nicely. You would just have to
>> explain to the SI "Big Giant Head" that that was the way you saw things
>> that day.
>>
>>> Using Paint Shop Pro, the first thing I did was to apply a 'curves'
>>> adjustment. In accordance with the mandate, the intention was to use
>>> the 'curves' to change the appearance of the light and shadow in the
>>> image. After a few minutes I decided my efforts were a howling
>>> success.
>>>
>>> Having done what I could to light and shadow I decided to tackle the
>>> 'reflections' side of the mandate. With this I produced the finished
>>> image which can be found at
>>> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/31088803/DSC_0176a.JPG
>>>
>>> I now regret I didn't submit it.

>>
>> Now here is where you might be accused of pushing the envelope of the
>> spirit of the rule. ;-)
>> ...or perhaps there is a NZ source for that mind altering hallucinogen
>> so popular in the 60's and early 70's.
>>
>>>
>>> Why did the colours change without any use of the colour controls? See
>>> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/31088803/DSC_0176aCurves.JPG

>>
>> Not exactly a linear curve is it?

>
> Only a geometer would claim a straight line is a curve.


Next thing you know we'll be getting off on a tangent.

--
Peter

Rob 11-23-2012 09:16 PM

Re: [SI] - Curves.
 
On 24/11/2012 12:58 AM, PeterN wrote:
> On 11/23/2012 3:46 AM, Eric Stevens wrote:
>> On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 19:29:41 -0800, Savageduck
>> <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2012-11-22 19:17:52 -0800, Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz>
>>> said:
>>>
>>>> I nearly gave up when I read:
>>>>
>>>> "Find curves in unusual places. Use shadows and reflections to
>>>> curve what's straight and straighten what's curved".
>>>>
>>>> I thought I knew what was wanted. The mandate was calling for an
>>>> interplay of light, shade and reflections to change the shape of
>>>> objects as seen by the viewer.
>>>>
>>>> I saw this as the kind of photography I have never done but which has
>>>> appeared in books published by eminent photographers. What I found
>>>> difficult was that we have been in the midst of equinoctial gales,
>>>> rain, dense clouds and general misery, otherwise as known as spring.
>>>> I couldn't see any way that I was going to be able to exploit any
>>>> useful interplay of light and shade outside of a studio, which I don't
>>>> own.
>>>>
>>>> I struggled and experimented with a few shots and had almost got to
>>>> the point of submitting "something completely different" when we had a
>>>> flurry of exemplar car body parts which certainly typified curves but
>>>> were taken in a clear light which gave almost no indication of shadows
>>>> or reflections. I thought "I can match them" and went on to submit the
>>>> three I did.
>>>>
>>>> More recently I have read of images which had been rejection as a
>>>> result of being "excessively Photoshopped". I wonder what would have
>>>> happened if I had submitted my original.
>>>>
>>>> I started with https://dl.dropbox.com/u/31088803/DSC_0176.JPG which is
>>>> a tunnel on the 2'-0" gauge 'Driving Creek' scenic railway. See
>>>> http://www.drivingcreekrailway.co.nz/ for info about the railway.
>>>
>>> Nice! I think it would have fit quite nicely. You would just have to
>>> explain to the SI "Big Giant Head" that that was the way you saw things
>>> that day.
>>>
>>>> Using Paint Shop Pro, the first thing I did was to apply a 'curves'
>>>> adjustment. In accordance with the mandate, the intention was to use
>>>> the 'curves' to change the appearance of the light and shadow in the
>>>> image. After a few minutes I decided my efforts were a howling
>>>> success.
>>>>
>>>> Having done what I could to light and shadow I decided to tackle the
>>>> 'reflections' side of the mandate. With this I produced the finished
>>>> image which can be found at
>>>> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/31088803/DSC_0176a.JPG
>>>>
>>>> I now regret I didn't submit it.
>>>
>>> Now here is where you might be accused of pushing the envelope of the
>>> spirit of the rule. ;-)
>>> ...or perhaps there is a NZ source for that mind altering hallucinogen
>>> so popular in the 60's and early 70's.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Why did the colours change without any use of the colour controls? See
>>>> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/31088803/DSC_0176aCurves.JPG
>>>
>>> Not exactly a linear curve is it?

>>
>> Only a geometer would claim a straight line is a curve.

>
> Next thing you know we'll be getting off on a tangent.
>


May drop over and catch up on the relo's - have enough FF points.


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