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nospam 11-13-2012 01:44 PM

web hosting
 
I'm trying to figure out the pros and cons of using a New Zealand
based web host like webbase compared with U.S. based like hostgator or
bluehost. Users of the website are all in N.Z. and it's non
commercial.

In favour of N.Z. based is
1. faster page loading
2. support is located in N.Z.
3. no downtime when international internet links fail

Not in favour of N.Z.
1. hostgator and bluehost are cheaper e.g. hostgator baby plan allows
unlimited domains, unlimited disk space and unlimited traffic - and
the terms of service don't define "unlimited".

Are there any other pros and cons?
Do pages really load faster with an N.Z. based host?

Dave Doe 11-13-2012 11:35 PM

Re: web hosting
 
In article <kmi4a8tlv1a4qrhm0c0i23lojg544fgg8r@4ax.com>,
nospam@nospam.nospam, nospam says...
>
> I'm trying to figure out the pros and cons of using a New Zealand
> based web host like webbase compared with U.S. based like hostgator or
> bluehost. Users of the website are all in N.Z. and it's non
> commercial.
>
> In favour of N.Z. based is
> 1. faster page loading
> 2. support is located in N.Z.
> 3. no downtime when international internet links fail
>
> Not in favour of N.Z.
> 1. hostgator and bluehost are cheaper e.g. hostgator baby plan allows
> unlimited domains, unlimited disk space and unlimited traffic - and
> the terms of service don't define "unlimited".
>
> Are there any other pros and cons?
> Do pages really load faster with an N.Z. based host?


You'll probably find that many of the cheaper NZ hosts servers are based
overseas anyway! :) Ask them.

--
Duncan.

Dave Doe 11-13-2012 11:49 PM

Re: web hosting
 
In article <MPG.2b0da060c5728a12989984@news.eternal-september.org>,
hard@work.ok, Dave Doe says...
>
> In article <kmi4a8tlv1a4qrhm0c0i23lojg544fgg8r@4ax.com>,
> nospam@nospam.nospam, nospam says...
> >
> > I'm trying to figure out the pros and cons of using a New Zealand
> > based web host like webbase compared with U.S. based like hostgator or
> > bluehost. Users of the website are all in N.Z. and it's non
> > commercial.
> >
> > In favour of N.Z. based is
> > 1. faster page loading
> > 2. support is located in N.Z.
> > 3. no downtime when international internet links fail
> >
> > Not in favour of N.Z.
> > 1. hostgator and bluehost are cheaper e.g. hostgator baby plan allows
> > unlimited domains, unlimited disk space and unlimited traffic - and
> > the terms of service don't define "unlimited".
> >
> > Are there any other pros and cons?
> > Do pages really load faster with an N.Z. based host?

>
> You'll probably find that many of the cheaper NZ hosts servers are based
> overseas anyway! :) Ask them.


Free ones...
http://www.awardspace.com/

http://www.serversfree.com/


--
Duncan.

Richard 11-14-2012 07:07 AM

Re: web hosting
 
On 11/14/2012 2:44 AM, nospam wrote:

> Are there any other pros and cons?
> Do pages really load faster with an N.Z. based host?


Yes, much much much faster particually with ssl stuff when it is under
10ms away vs a few hundred ms

Also it means you have a local place to go to and cause a stink etc if
things fail.

Richard 11-14-2012 08:20 AM

Re: web hosting
 
On 11/14/2012 2:44 AM, nospam wrote:

> Are there any other pros and cons?
> Do pages really load faster with an N.Z. based host?


Should also add that for retarded protocols like FTP and rsync that
managing the server will scream along when its a lot closer to you than
the USA.


Dave Doe 11-14-2012 09:08 AM

Re: web hosting
 
In article <kmi4a8tlv1a4qrhm0c0i23lojg544fgg8r@4ax.com>,
nospam@nospam.nospam, nospam says...
>
> I'm trying to figure out the pros and cons of using a New Zealand
> based web host like webbase compared with U.S. based like hostgator or
> bluehost. Users of the website are all in N.Z. and it's non
> commercial.
>
> In favour of N.Z. based is
> 1. faster page loading
> 2. support is located in N.Z.
> 3. no downtime when international internet links fail
>
> Not in favour of N.Z.
> 1. hostgator and bluehost are cheaper e.g. hostgator baby plan allows
> unlimited domains, unlimited disk space and unlimited traffic - and
> the terms of service don't define "unlimited".
>
> Are there any other pros and cons?
> Do pages really load faster with an N.Z. based host?


Third option I forget to mention - duh... you're a smart guy, why not
run your own server? The big question with this is, how much traffic do
you (seriously! :) think it will generate? However, should it do so,
easy enough to scale to a hosted service to suit. The bigger the scale,
the more it costs :)

Perhaps you could talk nicely to Mr Kim Schmitz? - his megaupload.com
site should have some spare bandwidth at present. On the down side, you
may not want an association with a convicted criminal LOL.

--
Duncan.

Enkidu 11-16-2012 06:18 AM

Re: web hosting
 
On 14/11/12 02:44, nospam wrote:
> I'm trying to figure out the pros and cons of using a New Zealand
> based web host like webbase compared with U.S. based like hostgator or
> bluehost. Users of the website are all in N.Z. and it's non
> commercial.
>
> In favour of N.Z. based is
> 1. faster page loading
> 2. support is located in N.Z.
> 3. no downtime when international internet links fail
>
> Not in favour of N.Z.
> 1. hostgator and bluehost are cheaper e.g. hostgator baby plan allows
> unlimited domains, unlimited disk space and unlimited traffic - and
> the terms of service don't define "unlimited".
>
> Are there any other pros and cons?
> Do pages really load faster with an N.Z. based host?
>

Hosting in NZ is expensive, you don't get much disk space and traffic
allowance is piddling. As someone mentioned, many cheap "NZ" hosters
on-sell hosting on overseas servers anyway.

Cheers,

Cliff

Reg@nospam.com 11-17-2012 04:44 AM

Re: web hosting
 
On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 02:44:40 +1300, nospam <nospam@nospam.nospam>
wrote:

>I'm trying to figure out the pros and cons of using a New Zealand
>based web host like webbase compared with U.S. based like hostgator or


j Just used filezilla to connect to an ihug server - time from
clicking on connection to display of directories approx 6 seconds

clicked on connection for hostgator server - time from click to
display < 3 seconds

So far as display of webpages is concerned I have noticed no real
diifference between the two servers, but then I do not obsess about
these things.

How important is it for a non-commercial site to be concerned about
the rare loss of the international cable?

Hostgator help desk responds with answers to queries within a
couple of minutes in my experience, and the personnel know what they
are talking about. Over the last dozen years I have experienced about
4 - 5 different providers. Hostgator has been the best by far.




abc@def.ghi.jk 11-17-2012 12:44 PM

Re: web hosting
 
On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 22:08:58 +1300, Dave Doe wrote:


> Perhaps you could talk nicely to Mr Kim Schmitz? - his megaupload.com
> site should have some spare bandwidth at present. On the down side, you
> may not want an association with a convicted criminal LOL.


Convicted!? When?


Dave Doe 11-18-2012 05:33 AM

Re: web hosting
 
In article <k880qs$e7r$1@judges1318.eternal-september.org>,
abc@def.ghi.jk, abc@def.ghi.jk says...
>
> On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 22:08:58 +1300, Dave Doe wrote:
>
>
> > Perhaps you could talk nicely to Mr Kim Schmitz? - his megaupload.com
> > site should have some spare bandwidth at present. On the down side, you
> > may not want an association with a convicted criminal LOL.

>
> Convicted!? When?


1994 and 2003, I believe.

--
Duncan.


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