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Big Red 06-29-2004 10:58 PM

Feature Request: Send Page by Email
 
Mozilla currently supports "Send Link by Email" but not "Send Page by
Email," which has been standard fare in IE since forever.

It's a useful feature. I use it all the time for sending articles. Saves the
other end having to click links.

Thanks,

Red



.BRIAN. 06-30-2004 12:33 AM

Re: Feature Request: Send Page by Email
 
On 6/29/2004 06:58 PM, Big Red wrote:
> Mozilla currently supports "Send Link by Email" but not "Send Page by
> Email," which has been standard fare in IE since forever.
>
> It's a useful feature. I use it all the time for sending articles. Saves the
> other end having to click links.
>


HTML in my Inbox? Yuck. I have it turned off anyway. ;-)

--
Brian

Big Red 06-30-2004 01:37 AM

Re: Feature Request: Send Page by Email
 
..BRIAN. wrote:
> On 6/29/2004 06:58 PM, Big Red wrote:
>> Mozilla currently supports "Send Link by Email" but not "Send Page by
>> Email," which has been standard fare in IE since forever.
>>
>> It's a useful feature. I use it all the time for sending articles.
>> Saves the other end having to click links.
>>

>
> HTML in my Inbox? Yuck. I have it turned off anyway. ;-)


I get your point, but I don't find it such a big deal now that I've got my
new 33.6 Kbps modem. Heck, I'm even surfing the Info SuperHighway with
Images enabled.

Hoowee! You should try it.

Red






.BRIAN. 06-30-2004 01:57 AM

Re: Feature Request: Send Page by Email
 
On 6/29/2004 09:37 PM, Big Red wrote:
> .BRIAN. wrote:
>
>>On 6/29/2004 06:58 PM, Big Red wrote:
>>
>>>Mozilla currently supports "Send Link by Email" but not "Send Page by
>>>Email," which has been standard fare in IE since forever.
>>>
>>>It's a useful feature. I use it all the time for sending articles.
>>>Saves the other end having to click links.

>>
>>HTML in my Inbox? Yuck. I have it turned off anyway. ;-)

>
> I get your point, but I don't find it such a big deal now that I've got my
> new 33.6 Kbps modem. Heck, I'm even surfing the Info SuperHighway with
> Images enabled.
>
> Hoowee! You should try it.
>


;-) It's not bandwidth I'm concerned with. I leave HTML turned off for
other reasons -- mainly because I don't like my address confirmed with
graphics sent via HTML spam.

33.6 Kpbs huh?? I remember my first modem... big fat 1200 baud modem
connected to my Amiga 500 browsing local BBSes. Now that was fast!

--
Brian

Moz Champion 06-30-2004 05:48 AM

Re: Feature Request: Send Page by Email
 
Big Red wrote:

> .BRIAN. wrote:
>
>>On 6/29/2004 06:58 PM, Big Red wrote:
>>
>>>Mozilla currently supports "Send Link by Email" but not "Send Page by
>>>Email," which has been standard fare in IE since forever.
>>>
>>>It's a useful feature. I use it all the time for sending articles.
>>>Saves the other end having to click links.
>>>

>>
>>HTML in my Inbox? Yuck. I have it turned off anyway. ;-)

>
>
> I get your point, but I don't find it such a big deal now that I've got my
> new 33.6 Kbps modem. Heck, I'm even surfing the Info SuperHighway with
> Images enabled.
>
> Hoowee! You should try it.
>
> Red
>
>
>
>
>


While you may be suitably equipped to handle large emails, most of the world is still far behind in terms of bandwidth. Basing what others should get on your specific situation is rather selfish is it not?

Many people dont want HTML in their email, regardless of where it comes from. Instead of giving them the 'option' to choose to go to a page, you force them to spend time (and sometimes money (many dont have unlimited accounts)) to get the page, even if they didnt want it.

Clicking a link is too much work? Gee, make one wonder how you found the site in the first place doesnt it <g>

Only send HTML formatted mail to those who request such, dont make their choice for them.
--
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Big Red 06-30-2004 05:55 AM

Re: Feature Request: Send Page by Email
 
Moz Champion wrote:
> Big Red wrote:
>
>> .BRIAN. wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/29/2004 06:58 PM, Big Red wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mozilla currently supports "Send Link by Email" but not "Send Page
>>>> by Email," which has been standard fare in IE since forever.
>>>>
>>>> It's a useful feature. I use it all the time for sending articles.
>>>> Saves the other end having to click links.
>>>>
>>>
>>> HTML in my Inbox? Yuck. I have it turned off anyway. ;-)

>>
>>
>> I get your point, but I don't find it such a big deal now that I've
>> got my new 33.6 Kbps modem. Heck, I'm even surfing the Info
>> SuperHighway with Images enabled.
>>
>> Hoowee! You should try it.
>>
>> Red
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

>
> While you may be suitably equipped to handle large emails, most of
> the world is still far behind in terms of bandwidth. Basing what
> others should get on your specific situation is rather selfish is it
> not?
>
> Many people dont want HTML in their email, regardless of where it
> comes from. Instead of giving them the 'option' to choose to go to a
> page, you force them to spend time (and sometimes money (many dont
> have unlimited accounts)) to get the page, even if they didnt want
> it.
>
> Clicking a link is too much work? Gee, make one wonder how you found
> the site in the first place doesnt it <g>
>
> Only send HTML formatted mail to those who request such, dont make
> their choice for them.


Have you updated your brain in the last ten years?

Red



Moz Champion 06-30-2004 06:09 AM

Re: Feature Request: Send Page by Email
 
Big Red wrote:

> Moz Champion wrote:
>
>>Big Red wrote:
>>
>>
>>>.BRIAN. wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>On 6/29/2004 06:58 PM, Big Red wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Mozilla currently supports "Send Link by Email" but not "Send Page
>>>>>by Email," which has been standard fare in IE since forever.
>>>>>
>>>>>It's a useful feature. I use it all the time for sending articles.
>>>>>Saves the other end having to click links.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>HTML in my Inbox? Yuck. I have it turned off anyway. ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>I get your point, but I don't find it such a big deal now that I've
>>>got my new 33.6 Kbps modem. Heck, I'm even surfing the Info
>>>SuperHighway with Images enabled.
>>>
>>>Hoowee! You should try it.
>>>
>>>Red
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>While you may be suitably equipped to handle large emails, most of
>>the world is still far behind in terms of bandwidth. Basing what
>>others should get on your specific situation is rather selfish is it
>>not?
>>
>>Many people dont want HTML in their email, regardless of where it
>>comes from. Instead of giving them the 'option' to choose to go to a
>>page, you force them to spend time (and sometimes money (many dont
>>have unlimited accounts)) to get the page, even if they didnt want
>>it.
>>
>>Clicking a link is too much work? Gee, make one wonder how you found
>>the site in the first place doesnt it <g>
>>
>>Only send HTML formatted mail to those who request such, dont make
>>their choice for them.

>
>
> Have you updated your brain in the last ten years?
>
> Red
>
>


Simply because you can do something, doesnt mean that everyone else will enjoy it. Many people dont like HTML in email (I do but thats me). Not everyone has access to high speed internet either.



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David Harrison 06-30-2004 08:17 AM

Re: Feature Request: Send Page by Email
 
On 6/30/2004 6:55 AM, Big Red said:

> Have you updated your brain in the last ten years?


Have _you_ checked before insulting someone who's been one of the most
helpful people on this newsgroup in recent years? You might like to try.

Back to topic: a lot of html spam contains images with
recipient-specific filenames for the images. Say you receive a spam that
your junk filter isn't ready to deal with yet. So your mail client
displays the message. So it sends http requests for images with coded
names like 'image32432423234.jpg' -- coded to your individual account.
Http request = valid e-mail target. You're buried under yet more spam.

For that reason alone I don't view html in messages. That and the
thought that if people need formatting to get their thoughts across,
they might like to try thinking harder :-)

cheers,

David H

Big Red 07-01-2004 12:34 AM

Re: Feature Request: Send Page by Email
 
Moz Champion wrote:
> Big Red wrote:
>
>
> Simply because you can do something, doesnt mean that everyone else
> will enjoy it. Many people dont like HTML in email (I do but thats
> me). Not everyone has access to high speed internet either.


Are you implying that if they put this feature in EVERYONE will use it, and
DESTROY the Internet you know and love? I hope not, because it's a feature
that's been in IE a long time that's overlooked by most but appreciated by
the minority who do. Of course I don't send an HTML mail to someone who
doesn't want it. Do you think I'm a complete moron?

Red



Big Red 07-01-2004 12:41 AM

Re: Feature Request: Send Page by Email
 
David Harrison wrote:
> On 6/30/2004 6:55 AM, Big Red said:
>
>> Have you updated your brain in the last ten years?

>
> Have _you_ checked before insulting someone who's been one of the most
> helpful people on this newsgroup in recent years? You might like to
> try.
>
> Back to topic: a lot of html spam contains images with
> recipient-specific filenames for the images. Say you receive a spam
> that your junk filter isn't ready to deal with yet. So your mail
> client displays the message. So it sends http requests for images
> with coded names like 'image32432423234.jpg' -- coded to your
> individual account. Http request = valid e-mail target. You're buried
> under yet more spam.
>
> For that reason alone I don't view html in messages. That and the
> thought that if people need formatting to get their thoughts across,
> they might like to try thinking harder :-)


Just because you don't like it - and it could potentially be exploited by
criminals - doesn't mean you should dictate to everyone else. Mozilla isn't
trying to be Saddam Hussein.

At any rate, the issue has nothing to do with HTML mail - which is already
supported by Thunderbird. The issue is about FORWARDING a WEB page from an
existing WEB site. The risks are the same as visiting that site from a
LINK - something which is already supported.

The issue is not about FORCING anything on anyone. It's about not making
them have to waste time pursuing a Web link. Now, if the other party doesn't
like HTML mail, then you don't send them HTML mail.

OBVIOUSLY, it's about exchanging Web pages between CONSENTING parties.

Sheesh,

Red





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