What NZ criminal offence is Dotcom accused of having committed?
 

I know that Dotcom is accused of committing a whole raft of criminal
offenses under US law. But can anyone tell me what NZ criminal offence
he's accused of having committed? TIA.

Re: What NZ criminal offence is Dotcom accused of having committed?
 

On Sat, 11 Feb 2012 15:12:16 +1300, Donchano wrote:

> I know that Dotcom is accused of committing a whole raft of criminal
> offenses under US law. But can anyone tell me what NZ criminal offence
> he's accused of having committed? TIA.


According to the FBI indictment, Dotcom and his associates have
already stated in intercepted documents that they have materially
profited from unauthorised trafficking in copyrighted material. Under NZ
copyright law profiting from such trafficking is a criminal offence which
carries a maximum penalty of five years in prison. This is more than the
four years maximum required to justify the laying of criminal conspiracy
charges -"participation in organised criminal group"- under the Crimes
Act. If the intercepted documents are allowed as evidence and are as the
FBI claims then Dotcom and his buddies are in trouble.

With all of the money in play, money laundering charges are also
likely. Potentially 7 years in prison for the principals and 5 years for
being accessory to an offence.

Several potentially serious charges here, without needing to deal
with the messy details about how many users have links to any particular
file and whether or not some or all or none of those links are authorised
by NZ law.

Re: What NZ criminal offence is Dotcom accused of having committed?
 

On Sat, 11 Feb 2012 15:12:16 +1300, Donchano
<donchano@notachance.invalid> wrote:

>
>I know that Dotcom is accused of committing a whole raft of criminal
>offenses under US law. But can anyone tell me what NZ criminal offence
>he's accused of having committed? TIA.



Na he was Born, no its the US that runs this Country..

How are they confiscating his stuff even before he has been tried.

Seems to me that the NZ gov has been stood over..

Re: What NZ criminal offence is Dotcom accused of having committed?
 

On 11 Feb 2012 21:57:56 +1300, Roger_Nickel <r@forgetit.co.nz> wrote:

>On Sat, 11 Feb 2012 15:12:16 +1300, Donchano wrote:
>
>> I know that Dotcom is accused of committing a whole raft of criminal
>> offenses under US law. But can anyone tell me what NZ criminal offence
>> he's accused of having committed? TIA.
>
>
> According to the FBI indictment, Dotcom and his associates have
>already stated in intercepted documents that they have materially
>profited from unauthorised trafficking in copyrighted material. Under NZ
>copyright law profiting from such trafficking is a criminal offence which
>carries a maximum penalty of five years in prison. This is more than the
>four years maximum required to justify the laying of criminal conspiracy
>charges -"participation in organised criminal group"- under the Crimes
>Act. If the intercepted documents are allowed as evidence and are as the
>FBI claims then Dotcom and his buddies are in trouble.
>
> With all of the money in play, money laundering charges are also
>likely. Potentially 7 years in prison for the principals and 5 years for
>being accessory to an offence.
>
> Several potentially serious charges here, without needing to deal
>with the messy details about how many users have links to any particular
>file and whether or not some or all or none of those links are authorised
>by NZ law.



Seems like you are one of those Corrupt FBI officials, believe in 1/2 of
what you read, its a total Frame up, he has not committed any thing at
all, it was because he was going to provide a Legit Music Dnload service
what put the wind up of the RIAA and money would go direct to the
Artist.

You should watch CH7 Media Watch.

Just don't post what you saw on the News Its Total US Crap..

Re: What NZ criminal offence is Dotcom accused of having committed?
 

On Sat, 11 Feb 2012 23:06:42 +1300, Frank Williams
<FWilliams@happy.com.ru> wrote:

>
>
>Seems like you are one of those Corrupt FBI officials, believe in 1/2 of
>what you read, its a total Frame up, he has not committed any thing at
>all, it was because he was going to provide a Legit Music Dnload service
>what put the wind up of the RIAA and money would go direct to the
>Artist.
>
>You should watch CH7 Media Watch.
>
>Just don't post what you saw on the News Its Total US Crap..
>

Seems like you're an idiot. The NZ Police and Govt believe it too and
so does anyone with more than two brain cells.

Re: What NZ criminal offence is Dotcom accused of having committed?
 

On 11 Feb 2012 21:57:56 +1300, Roger_Nickel <r@forgetit.co.nz> shouted
from the highest rooftop:

>On Sat, 11 Feb 2012 15:12:16 +1300, Donchano wrote:
>
>> I know that Dotcom is accused of committing a whole raft of criminal
>> offenses under US law. But can anyone tell me what NZ criminal offence
>> he's accused of having committed? TIA.
>
>
> According to the FBI indictment, Dotcom and his associates have
>already stated in intercepted documents that they have materially
>profited from unauthorised trafficking in copyrighted material. Under NZ
>copyright law profiting from such trafficking is a criminal offence which
>carries a maximum penalty of five years in prison. This is more than the
>four years maximum required to justify the laying of criminal conspiracy
>charges -"participation in organised criminal group"- under the Crimes
>Act. If the intercepted documents are allowed as evidence and are as the
>FBI claims then Dotcom and his buddies are in trouble.

Thanks. But that still doesn't answer my question. What NZ criminal
offence or offences was he arrested for having violated?

> With all of the money in play, money laundering charges are also
>likely. Potentially 7 years in prison for the principals and 5 years for
>being accessory to an offence.
>
> Several potentially serious charges here, without needing to deal
>with the messy details about how many users have links to any particular
>file and whether or not some or all or none of those links are authorised
>by NZ law.

Re: What NZ criminal offence is Dotcom accused of having committed?
 

On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 11:46:43 +1300, Donchano
<donchano@notachance.invalid> wrote:

>
>Thanks. But that still doesn't answer my question. What NZ criminal
>offence or offences was he arrested for having violated?
>

None
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extradition

Re: What NZ criminal offence is Dotcom accused of having committed?
 

On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 12:17:35 +1300, nospam <nospam@nospam.nospam>
shouted from the highest rooftop:

>On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 11:46:43 +1300, Donchano
><donchano@notachance.invalid> wrote:
>
>>
>>Thanks. But that still doesn't answer my question. What NZ criminal
>>offence or offences was he arrested for having violated?
>>
>
>None
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extradition

Thanks. I know that the US wants to extradite Dotcom in order to stand
trial for the US laws he's accused of having violated.

But Dotcom was arrested in New Zealand by the New Zealand police, not
in the US by the FBI. So what NZ criminal offence or offenses was he
arrested for having allegedly violated? What New Zealand offences were
specified on the arrest warrant/s?

Re: What NZ criminal offence is Dotcom accused of having committed?
 

On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 12:27:11 +1300, Donchano
<donchano@notachance.invalid> wrote:

>
>On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 12:17:35 +1300, nospam <nospam@nospam.nospam>
>shouted from the highest rooftop:
>
>>On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 11:46:43 +1300, Donchano
>><donchano@notachance.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Thanks. But that still doesn't answer my question. What NZ criminal
>>>offence or offences was he arrested for having violated?
>>>
>>
>>None
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extradition
>
>Thanks. I know that the US wants to extradite Dotcom in order to stand
>trial for the US laws he's accused of having violated.
>
>But Dotcom was arrested in New Zealand by the New Zealand police, not
>in the US by the FBI. So what NZ criminal offence or offenses was he
>arrested for having allegedly violated? What New Zealand offences were
>specified on the arrest warrant/s?

I already answered you. None. Guess you didn't read the article on
extradition.

Re: What NZ criminal offence is Dotcom accused of having committed?
 

On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 13:07:52 +1300, whoisthis <who@am.i.spammer>
shouted from the highest rooftop:

>In article <9pobqhF9qmU2@mid.individual.net>,
> Donchano <donchano@notachance.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 12:17:35 +1300, nospam <nospam@nospam.nospam>
>> shouted from the highest rooftop:
>>
>> >On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 11:46:43 +1300, Donchano
>> ><donchano@notachance.invalid> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>Thanks. But that still doesn't answer my question. What NZ criminal
>> >>offence or offences was he arrested for having violated?
>> >>
>> >
>> >None
>> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extradition
>>
>> Thanks. I know that the US wants to extradite Dotcom in order to stand
>> trial for the US laws he's accused of having violated.
>>
>> But Dotcom was arrested in New Zealand by the New Zealand police, not
>> in the US by the FBI. So what NZ criminal offence or offenses was he
>> arrested for having allegedly violated? What New Zealand offences were
>> specified on the arrest warrant/s?
>
>It does not require a NZ crime to be committed to be extradited, so your
>question is irrelevant.

But he hasn't be extradited ... he's been arrested.