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CJM 06-23-2004 10:36 AM

Caching images & ASP pages
 
I've had some periodic problems on certain (intranet)servers where IIS seems
to be caching thing in an unexpected way, or is server cached pages where
new content is expected.

The first situation is where we have a standard Top + Left + Content
framset; the left frame contains a menu which shows standard options - when
the user logs in, extra menu options are available to them, depending on
their priveleges. The menu is generated from a DB in ASP, and when the user
logs in, Javascript is used to reload the page in the left frame - eg.
re-generate menu based on logged-in user.

This used to work on all servers, but at some point in time I found that
people were logging in but were stuck with the standard menu. If we
right-clicked in the menu and chose refresh, often the correct (eg expanded)
menu would be shown.

I'm not sure where the problem is IIS or could be controlled in ASP...

The second problem is on my development machine; when I browse to my
development copy of the intranet, I dont get the icons for each menu item.
However, when I browse to the live Intranet system, the correct graphics are
shown.

Screenshots:
My machine - http://www.brightnorth.com/news/menu1.gif
Normal site - http://www.brightnorth.com/news/menu2.gif

I'm assuming that this one is purely an IIS problem. Any thoughts?



Aaron [SQL Server MVP] 06-23-2004 01:16 PM

Re: Caching images & ASP pages
 
Some info here:
http://www.aspfaq.com/2022

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"CJM" <cjmnews04@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
news:Oscx73QWEHA.3664@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> I've had some periodic problems on certain (intranet)servers where IIS

seems
> to be caching thing in an unexpected way, or is server cached pages where
> new content is expected.
>
> The first situation is where we have a standard Top + Left + Content
> framset; the left frame contains a menu which shows standard options -

when
> the user logs in, extra menu options are available to them, depending on
> their priveleges. The menu is generated from a DB in ASP, and when the

user
> logs in, Javascript is used to reload the page in the left frame - eg.
> re-generate menu based on logged-in user.
>
> This used to work on all servers, but at some point in time I found that
> people were logging in but were stuck with the standard menu. If we
> right-clicked in the menu and chose refresh, often the correct (eg

expanded)
> menu would be shown.
>
> I'm not sure where the problem is IIS or could be controlled in ASP...
>
> The second problem is on my development machine; when I browse to my
> development copy of the intranet, I dont get the icons for each menu item.
> However, when I browse to the live Intranet system, the correct graphics

are
> shown.
>
> Screenshots:
> My machine - http://www.brightnorth.com/news/menu1.gif
> Normal site - http://www.brightnorth.com/news/menu2.gif
>
> I'm assuming that this one is purely an IIS problem. Any thoughts?
>
>




CJM 06-23-2004 03:03 PM

Re: Caching images & ASP pages
 
Aaron/Stephen,

Thanks. I'd actually already discovered this info while waiting (on Aaron's
site of course!)

Clearly this stops the ASP menu caching problem but not the menu icons....
Any ideas about these?

Chris




Aaron [SQL Server MVP] 06-23-2004 03:35 PM

Re: Caching images & ASP pages
 
> Clearly this stops the ASP menu caching problem but not the menu icons....
> Any ideas about these?


How often are you changing the menu icons, really? If you change the
graphics, change the name too. Then the browser won't look at the old
images still in the cache.

A



CJM 06-23-2004 04:12 PM

Re: Caching images & ASP pages
 
"Aaron [SQL Server MVP]" <ten.xoc@dnartreb.noraa> wrote in message
news:%23GtwmfTWEHA.2196@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > Clearly this stops the ASP menu caching problem but not the menu

icons....
> > Any ideas about these?

>
> How often are you changing the menu icons, really? If you change the
> graphics, change the name too. Then the browser won't look at the old
> images still in the cache.
>

The images never change. Well, they havent so far...

It's not like it's picking up old graphics... it's presumably picking up the
right graphics but not showing them... that is, the images appear to take up
space, but just arent visible...!

The images are each surrounded by an anchor, since they are also used within
the javascript menu top expand each menu group - this functionality still
works...

it's puzzling!

Chris



Aaron [SQL Server MVP] 06-23-2004 05:24 PM

Re: Caching images & ASP pages
 
> The images never change. Well, they havent so far...
>
> It's not like it's picking up old graphics... it's presumably picking up

the
> right graphics but not showing them... that is, the images appear to take

up
> space, but just arent visible...!


? So why do you think this is a caching issue?

A



[MSFT] 06-24-2004 08:24 AM

Re: Caching images & ASP pages
 
Hi Chris,

If you choose to view the source code of page in IE, did you see the code
the those images?

Luke


CJM 06-24-2004 01:25 PM

Re: Caching images & ASP pages
 
Luke,

Yes the images are present in the HTML.

I did wonder if the CSS was hiding the images but the same CSS is used on
the development site as is on the live site.

cheers

Chris

"[MSFT]" <lukezhan@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4C%23UoScWEHA.2920@cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl...
> Hi Chris,
>
> If you choose to view the source code of page in IE, did you see the code
> the those images?
>
> Luke
>




[MSFT] 06-25-2004 06:51 AM

Re: Caching images & ASP pages
 
If right click the place, the select "Show Picture", will the image occur?
Are these images files in same folder with your web pages?

Luke


CJM 06-25-2004 08:20 AM

Re: Caching images & ASP pages
 
The image files are in a different folder...

My original problem was that the sub-item images didnt appear, but the main
item images did. In this case, by using show picture the images *would*
appear.

Now both images dont appear, and show picture doesnt seem to work. I'm not
aware of any change in circumstance, but clearly there must be some.

Chris

"[MSFT]" <lukezhan@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8D4qjDoWEHA.328@cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl...
> If right click the place, the select "Show Picture", will the image occur?
> Are these images files in same folder with your web pages?
>
> Luke
>





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