It’s A Multi-Browser World
 

Looks like Internet Explorer is in terminal decline: Microsoft keeps
bringing out new versions, but existing users can’t be bothered upgrading,
it seems they would rather switch
<http://arstechnica.com/web/news/2011/06/may-browser-market-share-microsoft-and-mozillas-continuing-chrome-conundrum.ars>.
Chrome is the fastest-growing, and will probably equal Firefox at some
point. Will it pass it? Who knows...

Re: It’s A Multi-Browser World
 

On 7/06/2011 7:00 p.m., Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> Looks like Internet Explorer is in terminal decline: Microsoft keeps
> bringing out new versions, but existing users can’t be bothered upgrading,
> it seems they would rather switch
> <http://arstechnica.com/web/news/2011/06/may-browser-market-share-microsoft-and-mozillas-continuing-chrome-conundrum.ars>.
> Chrome is the fastest-growing, and will probably equal Firefox at some
> point. Will it pass it? Who knows...

9 is ****. 8 is ok.

9 cant even render text without making it look like it was rendered
small and then zoomed up in size, fuzzy edges make it very painful to
use. Like a mac almost. Guess they are copying that.

Re: It’s A Multi-Browser World
 

On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 02:03:39 +1200, in message <isnvfr$lf0$5@news.albasani.net>
Richard wrote:
> On 7/06/2011 7:00 p.m., Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> [...] Internet Explorer [...]
>
> 9 is ****. 8 is ok.
>
> 9 cant even render text without making it look like it was rendered
> small and then zoomed up in size, fuzzy edges make it very painful to
> use. Like a mac almost. Guess they are copying that.
>
> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10


Q. Are your Win 7 display settings set to something other than
"Smaller - 100% (default)" ?

(That is, something other than 96dpi?)


--
Kind regards
Ralph

Re: It’s A Multi-Browser World
 

On 9/06/2011 6:39 a.m., Ralph Fox wrote:
> On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 02:03:39 +1200, in message<isnvfr$lf0$5@news.albasani.net>
> Richard wrote:
>> On 7/06/2011 7:00 p.m., Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>>> [...] Internet Explorer [...]
>>
>> 9 is ****. 8 is ok.
>>
>> 9 cant even render text without making it look like it was rendered
>> small and then zoomed up in size, fuzzy edges make it very painful to
>> use. Like a mac almost. Guess they are copying that.
>>
>> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10
>
>
> Q. Are your Win 7 display settings set to something other than
> "Smaller - 100% (default)" ?
>
> (That is, something other than 96dpi?)

No, its on standard and cleartype etc is off everywhere. Firefox can
deliver nice non antialiased or scaled fonts with crisp sharp edges. IE
8 can do it, IE 9 fails at it. Many threads everywhere about it being a
cockup by MS. Something to do with their fancy new hardware rendering
engine etc.

Re: It’s A Multi-Browser World
 

On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 22:58:51 +1200, in message <isq91b$r05$1@news.albasani.net>
Richard wrote:

> On 9/06/2011 6:39 a.m., Ralph Fox wrote:
> > On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 02:03:39 +1200, in message<isnvfr$lf0$5@news.albasani.net>
> > Richard wrote:
> >> On 7/06/2011 7:00 p.m., Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> >>
> >>> [...] Internet Explorer [...]
> >>
> >> 9 is ****. 8 is ok.
> >>
> >> 9 cant even render text without making it look like it was rendered
> >> small and then zoomed up in size, fuzzy edges make it very painful to
> >> use. Like a mac almost. Guess they are copying that.
> >>
> >> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10
> >
> >
> > Q. Are your Win 7 display settings set to something other than
> > "Smaller - 100% (default)" ?
> >
> > (That is, something other than 96dpi?)
>
> No, its on standard and cleartype etc is off everywhere. Firefox can
> deliver nice non antialiased or scaled fonts with crisp sharp edges. IE
> 8 can do it, IE 9 fails at it. Many threads everywhere about it being a
> cockup by MS. Something to do with their fancy new hardware rendering
> engine etc.


I have seen the problem you describe in parts of some applications,
when the Win7 display settings were bigger than 100% (more than 96dpi).

I had speculated that it was doing the rendering as if WPF "relative pixels"
(1/96 inch) were physical pixels, then zooming to the actual screen resolution.

<http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa511441.aspx#R>


--
Kind regards
Ralph

Re: It’s A Multi-Browser World
 

On 10/06/2011 8:02 p.m., Ralph Fox wrote:
> On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 22:58:51 +1200, in message<isq91b$r05$1@news.albasani.net>
> Richard wrote:
>
>> On 9/06/2011 6:39 a.m., Ralph Fox wrote:
>>> On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 02:03:39 +1200, in message<isnvfr$lf0$5@news.albasani.net>
>>> Richard wrote:
>>>> On 7/06/2011 7:00 p.m., Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> [...] Internet Explorer [...]
>>>>
>>>> 9 is ****. 8 is ok.
>>>>
>>>> 9 cant even render text without making it look like it was rendered
>>>> small and then zoomed up in size, fuzzy edges make it very painful to
>>>> use. Like a mac almost. Guess they are copying that.
>>>>
>>>> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10
>>>
>>>
>>> Q. Are your Win 7 display settings set to something other than
>>> "Smaller - 100% (default)" ?
>>>
>>> (That is, something other than 96dpi?)
>>
>> No, its on standard and cleartype etc is off everywhere. Firefox can
>> deliver nice non antialiased or scaled fonts with crisp sharp edges. IE
>> 8 can do it, IE 9 fails at it. Many threads everywhere about it being a
>> cockup by MS. Something to do with their fancy new hardware rendering
>> engine etc.
>
>
> I have seen the problem you describe in parts of some applications,
> when the Win7 display settings were bigger than 100% (more than 96dpi).
>
> I had speculated that it was doing the rendering as if WPF "relative pixels"
> (1/96 inch) were physical pixels, then zooming to the actual screen resolution.
>
> <http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa511441.aspx#R>

Nah, I really dont see the point in that control since it only has
options to make things bigger. With the dumbing down of screens I could
have used it going down to 75% or perhaps 66% when borrowing a computer
with this abortion of a 1600x900 screen on it.

Apparantly enabling compatibility mode to disable the GPU rendering will
solve it. Uninstalling it was easier tho.