Re: YouTube upload fails?
 

On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 19:19:13 +0000, Kenny wrote:

> It's open for public viewing. It,s a clip of Amy, my granddaughter and
> my daughter's boyfriend Lee messing about at the Albert Dock in
> Liverpool this summer.
> Link:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cdf-mwSwauQ
>
> Kenny

Heh. I know what's on *my* to-do list for next summer. A twenty-minute
drive from here will get me to Albert Dock.



--
"En un lugar de la Mancha, de cuyo nombre no quiero acordarme,
no hace mucho tiempo que vivÃ*a un hidalgo de los de lanza en
astillero, adarga antigua, rocÃ*n flaco y galgo corredor."
-Cervantes, 'Don Quixote'

Re: YouTube upload fails?
 

On Mon, 08 Nov 2010 19:13:35 +0000, Kenny wrote:

> Greatest thing ever happened here was Ryanair putting on a daily flight
> to Liverpool.

Derry has an airport now? When I left Norn Iron the only airport was
Aldergrove.

> If you're flexible about dates it can be very cheap. Last
> year I got to Liverpool for £16.99 and back for £1, that's not a typo it
> is £1.

Yeah. There are all sorts of cheap flight deals you can get hold of these
days. Beats me how they can make a decent profit.




--
"En un lugar de la Mancha, de cuyo nombre no quiero acordarme,
no hace mucho tiempo que vivÃ*a un hidalgo de los de lanza en
astillero, adarga antigua, rocÃ*n flaco y galgo corredor."
-Cervantes, 'Don Quixote'

Re: YouTube upload fails?
 

On Tue, 09 Nov 2010 18:49:10 +0000, Kenny wrote:


>
> "Aardvark" <aardvark@youllnever.know> wrote in message
> news:ibc0dc$r0e$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> On Mon, 08 Nov 2010 19:13:35 +0000, Kenny wrote:
>>
>>> Greatest thing ever happened here was Ryanair putting on a daily
>>> flight to Liverpool.
>>
>> Derry has an airport now? When I left Norn Iron the only airport was
>> Aldergrove.
>>
>>> If you're flexible about dates it can be very cheap. Last
>>> year I got to Liverpool for £16.99 and back for £1, that's not a typo
>>> it is £1.
>>
>> Yeah. There are all sorts of cheap flight deals you can get hold of
>> these days. Beats me how they can make a decent profit.
>>

> Derry's airport used to be the old Eglinton airfield, used by the RAF
> during the war then the British Army had it for a while.

I have a feeling that I read somewhere that it was a US air base (despite
the RAF designation).

> All modernised
> now and they've just completed a new dual carriageway to it. Aldergrove
> is now George Best Airport and there's also City Airport in Belfast.

Yeah. I know about City airport. I think it's at Sydenham (halfway
between Belfast and Hollywood).

> How long is it since you've been here, you seem a bit out of touch?

I last set foot on Irish soil in January of 1974.

> It's changed a lot, Derry is the European City Of Culture for 2013 and
> there's a big build up to it.

Heh, we had that in Liverpool in 2009. Only difference that made was that
when you got back to where your car was parked, the wheels were gone and
it was sitting on four piles of books.

> We're also nearly finished the new "Peace Bridge" from behind the
> Guildhall across to the old Ebrington Barracks. Look at some of the
> links here:
> http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&sourc...57&q=derry%27s
+peace+bridge&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=999b1 a7ff08dd911
>

An elegant structure. Last time I was in Derry, what is now Ebrington
Barracks was called HMS Sea Eagle LOL. I might have been there on the
last Sunday of January 1972, but our coach from Belfast was turned back
somewhere outside the city.

> Kenny

Aardvark


--
"En un lugar de la Mancha, de cuyo nombre no quiero acordarme,
no hace mucho tiempo que vivÃ*a un hidalgo de los de lanza en
astillero, adarga antigua, rocÃ*n flaco y galgo corredor."
-Cervantes, 'Don Quixote'

Re: YouTube upload fails?
 

On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 13:18:47 +0000, ~BD~ wrote:

> Kenny wrote:
>> Last Sunday of January 1972 was Bloody Sunday, few of us can forget
>> that day.
>>
>> Kenny
>
> The politicians would have us believe that whilst not forgotten, all
> fault on all sides has been forgiven.

Not until justice can be had for the dead and injured.

Widgery sullied their names with his whitewashed report and totally
exonerated the paras, many of whom, as announced by Lord Saville in his
report, lied through their teeth to both tribunals.

Criminal prosecutions against those involved should have been instigated
long ago. The unjustified and unjustifiable killings of those fourteen
defenceless innocents calls for it.

>
> Is that how you see things at the coal-face, as it were, Kenny?

Any thinking person would.



--
"En un lugar de la Mancha, de cuyo nombre no quiero acordarme,
no hace mucho tiempo que vivÃ*a un hidalgo de los de lanza en
astillero, adarga antigua, rocÃ*n flaco y galgo corredor."
-Cervantes, 'Don Quixote'

Re: YouTube upload fails?
 

On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 13:48:06 +0000, Aardvark wrote:

> On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 13:18:47 +0000, ~BD~ wrote:
>
>> Kenny wrote:
>>> Last Sunday of January 1972 was Bloody Sunday, few of us can forget
>>> that day.
>>>
>>> Kenny
>>
>> The politicians would have us believe that whilst not forgotten, all
>> fault on all sides has been forgiven.
>
> Not until justice can be had for the dead and injured.
>
> Widgery sullied their names with his whitewashed report and totally
> exonerated the paras, many of whom, as announced by Lord Saville in his
> report, lied through their teeth to both tribunals.
>
> Criminal prosecutions against those involved should have been instigated
> long ago. The unjustified and unjustifiable killings of those fourteen
> defenceless innocents calls for it.
>
>
>> Is that how you see things at the coal-face, as it were, Kenny?
>
> Any thinking person would.

A reasonably detailed pictorial account of what happened that day and
some comments on each death from Lord Chief Justice Saville:

<http://snipurl.com/1fn4lk>

The following link may be of interest:

<http://www.bloody-sunday-inquiry.org/>

--
"En un lugar de la Mancha, de cuyo nombre no quiero acordarme,
no hace mucho tiempo que vivÃ*a un hidalgo de los de lanza en
astillero, adarga antigua, rocÃ*n flaco y galgo corredor."
-Cervantes, 'Don Quixote'

Re: YouTube upload fails?
 

On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 11:39:19 +0000, Kenny wrote:
>
> "Aardvark" <aardvark@youllnever.know> wrote in message
> news:ibebsu$nb8$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>
>>>
>> An elegant structure. Last time I was in Derry, what is now Ebrington
>> Barracks was called HMS Sea Eagle LOL. I might have been there on the
>> last Sunday of January 1972, but our coach from Belfast was turned back
>> somewhere outside the city.
>>
>>
?
> Last Sunday of January 1972 was Bloody Sunday, few of us can forget that
> day.

It was our intention to join the march in Derry that day. I might
possibly have been one of those throwing missiles at troops at 'Aggro
Corner' that day, and who knows how *that* might have turned out? No more
Aardvark.

At that time, internment week was still fresh in our minds, and the week
of fighting we had gone through in the defence of West Belfast, all the
way from the Clonard area of the Falls Road, Grosvenor Road, Springfield
Road all the way to the Glen Road and Monagh Road by Turf Lodge, finally
watching the Brits assault and take the estate from a vantage point
overlooking the action. It took them about eight hours to do so, despite
there being no more than perhaps three or four armed men defending that
side of the estate.

These men were, of course, long gone by the time the Brits took the
estate.

>
> Kenny


--
"En un lugar de la Mancha, de cuyo nombre no quiero acordarme,
no hace mucho tiempo que vivÃ*a un hidalgo de los de lanza en
astillero, adarga antigua, rocÃ*n flaco y galgo corredor."
-Cervantes, 'Don Quixote'

Re: YouTube upload fails?
 

On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:03:46 +0000, ~BD~ wrote:

> Aardvark wrote:

>> The following link may be of interest:
>>
>> <http://www.bloody-sunday-inquiry.org/>
>>
>>
> I'd rather not open a can of worms again.

What ever made you think it had been closed? I suppose you accepted
Widgery's bullshit as gospel.

And, anyway, you *did* ask.


--
"En un lugar de la Mancha, de cuyo nombre no quiero acordarme,
no hace mucho tiempo que vivÃ*a un hidalgo de los de lanza en
astillero, adarga antigua, rocÃ*n flaco y galgo corredor."
-Cervantes, 'Don Quixote'

Re: YouTube upload fails?
 

On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:35:07 +0000, ~BD~ wrote:

> I would like to know why you have been afraid to step onto Irish soil

Who said that? I certainly didn't, and therefore there's no question to
answer nor explanation required.



--
"En un lugar de la Mancha, de cuyo nombre no quiero acordarme,
no hace mucho tiempo que vivÃ*a un hidalgo de los de lanza en
astillero, adarga antigua, rocÃ*n flaco y galgo corredor."
-Cervantes, 'Don Quixote'

Re: YouTube upload fails?
 

On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:43:08 +0000, ~BD~ wrote:

> Aardvark wrote:
>> On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:35:07 +0000, ~BD~ wrote:
>>
>>> I would like to know why you have been afraid to step onto Irish soil
>>
>> Who said that? I certainly didn't, and therefore there's no question to
>> answer nor explanation required.
>
> You felt the British were your enemy when you lived in Belfast -

Not necessarily, although they did operate in support of those who
considered me *their* enemy.

> yet you
> came to the mainland to raise your children under a more secure mantle.
>

No, I didn't. I came to England for reasons totally disconnected with the
raising of children, under a secure mantle or otherwise.

> How 'brave' is that?

Neither brave nor cowardly. My leaving Norn Iron had nothing to do with
events taking place there at the time.

> Something just doesn't quite ring true.

LOL. Another one of your 'hinky' feelings?



--
"En un lugar de la Mancha, de cuyo nombre no quiero acordarme,
no hace mucho tiempo que vivÃ*a un hidalgo de los de lanza en
astillero, adarga antigua, rocÃ*n flaco y galgo corredor."
-Cervantes, 'Don Quixote'

Re: YouTube upload fails?
 

On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 19:07:44 +0000, ~BD~ wrote:

> Aardvark wrote:
>> On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:43:08 +0000, ~BD~ wrote:
>>
>>> Aardvark wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:35:07 +0000, ~BD~ wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I would like to know why you have been afraid to step onto Irish
>>>>> soil
>>>>
>>>> Who said that? I certainly didn't, and therefore there's no question
>>>> to answer nor explanation required.
>>>
>>> You felt the British were your enemy when you lived in Belfast -
>>
>> Not necessarily, although they did operate in support of those who
>> considered me *their* enemy.
>
> Surely the British Army were supporting the police

All the more reason to mistrust them.

> - trying to keep
> Catholics and Protestants apart.

Is that why they drove around the Lower Falls Road in 1969 in armoured
cars using Browning .30 machine guns mounted on top to shoot up houses at
random?

> Do you perceive that they favoured one
> side more than the other?
>

You don't know much about N.I. history in general, or the R.U.C. in
particular, do you? Or worse- the 'B' Specials. Google is your friend.

>>> yet you
>>> came to the mainland to raise your children under a more secure
>>> mantle.
>>>
>>>
>> No, I didn't. I came to England for reasons totally disconnected with
>> the raising of children, under a secure mantle or otherwise.
>
> <shrug> If you don't say, I'll never know.

That's right, but you may rest assured that what I wrote above is the
truth.

> You have demonstrated that
> you've not preferred to be in Northern Ireland more than in England -

Nothing of the kind. I am where I am. That's all there is.

When I last left N.I., I had no intention of not returning. It just
turned out that way. I might go back there someday, I might not.

> simply by still being here. Your kids are ENGLISH aren't they? <grin>

Nope. Scousers. Half-Irish at that.

>
>>> How 'brave' is that?
>>
>> Neither brave nor cowardly. My leaving Norn Iron had nothing to do with
>> events taking place there at the time.
>
> If you say so.

I say so.

> I have no idea.

What's new?

>
>>> Something just doesn't quite ring true.
>>
>> LOL. Another one of your 'hinky' feelings?
>
> Not at all.

So why hint that I may be, to some extent, mendacious?

> I have no conflict with you, AFAICT! :)

I've had enough conflict in my life, thanks.



--
"En un lugar de la Mancha, de cuyo nombre no quiero acordarme,
no hace mucho tiempo que vivÃ*a un hidalgo de los de lanza en
astillero, adarga antigua, rocÃ*n flaco y galgo corredor."
-Cervantes, 'Don Quixote'