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Bowser 08-09-2010 11:52 AM

Re: Leica X1, only compact approved by Getty Images
 
"Rich" <none@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:pb6dnVRDlvcm_8LRnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d@giganews.com...
> What, no 1/2.3"sensored superzooms? I'm shocked.
>
> http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/news/Leica_X1
> _The_first_compact_approved_by_Getty_news_300782.h tml
>


Getty's list has been a joke for a long time:

http://contributors.gettyimages.com/...rticle_id=1346

No canon 5D II? No Nikon D3s? No Canon 7D? No Leica M9? Hmmm......

One other thing: Since the Leica X1 is amazingly slow, you'd best press that
button now for images of things that happen next week. It may be slow, but
is is expensive.


RichA 08-09-2010 01:37 PM

Re: Leica X1, only compact approved by Getty Images
 
On Aug 9, 7:52*am, "Bowser" <ba...@bing.com> wrote:
> "Rich" <n...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>
> news:pb6dnVRDlvcm_8LRnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d@giganews.com...
>
> > What, no 1/2.3"sensored superzooms? *I'm shocked.

>
> >http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/news/Leica_X1
> > _The_first_compact_approved_by_Getty_news_300782.h tml

>
> Getty's list has been a joke for a long time:
>
> http://contributors.gettyimages.com/...asp?article_id...
>
> No canon 5D II? No Nikon D3s? No Canon 7D? No Leica M9? Hmmm......
>


They'll get to them. You know how long it took NASA to approve the
D3? Since the camera was incepted. But I applaud them for doing
this, to keep the riff-raff and second-rate stuff out. At least one
of those image banks has some integrity. Thought some pros take
exception to their tryst with Flickr.

Bruce 08-09-2010 01:38 PM

Re: Leica X1, only compact approved by Getty Images
 
On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 07:52:16 -0400, "Bowser" <badda@bing.com> wrote:
>"Rich" <none@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>news:pb6dnVRDlvcm_8LRnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d@giganews.com...
>> What, no 1/2.3"sensored superzooms? I'm shocked.
>>
>> http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/news/Leica_X1
>> _The_first_compact_approved_by_Getty_news_300782.h tml

>
>Getty's list has been a joke for a long time:
>
>http://contributors.gettyimages.com/...rticle_id=1346
>
>No canon 5D II? No Nikon D3s? No Canon 7D? No Leica M9? Hmmm......
>
>One other thing: Since the Leica X1 is amazingly slow, you'd best press that
>button now for images of things that happen next week. It may be slow, but
>is is expensive.



You have obviously given the Leica X1 a detailed, extended trial, so
perhaps you could tell us what you believe are its good points?

What I mean is, you couldn't possibly have made comments such as those
you made above without having given the Leica X1 a detailed, extended
trial, could you? Because that would make those comments pure BS, and
we all know you have *such* a strong aversion to that. ;-)


Andrew Templeman 08-09-2010 06:35 PM

Re: Leica X1, only compact approved by Getty Images
 
Bowser <Canon@Nikon.Panny> wrote:

> >> Getty's list has been a joke for a long time:
> >>
> >> http://contributors.gettyimages.com/...rticle_id=1346
> >>
> >> No canon 5D II? No Nikon D3s? No Canon 7D? No Leica M9? Hmmm......

> >
> >Even sillier, they list the D300 and not the D700?
> >...and if the D300, why not the D90?

>
> Yes, it's a stupid and lame attempt to try and control the quality of
> the images they collect based on camera make and model. No Sonys? Is
> thee no other SLR on the market besides the two sacred cows capable of
> producing a quality image? According to Getty, no. Very, very stupid
> list.


Looks like they just don't update the list very often. Everything on
there was introduced by Aug 2007. Are there any others of that vintage
that are missing?


--
Andy Templeman <http://www.templeman.org.uk/>

RichA 08-09-2010 07:44 PM

Re: Leica X1, only compact approved by Getty Images
 
On Aug 9, 1:08*pm, Bowser <Ca...@Nikon.Panny> wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 08:37:14 -0700, Savageduck
>
>
>
> <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> >On 2010-08-09 04:52:16 -0700, "Bowser" <ba...@bing.com> said:

>
> >> "Rich" <n...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> >>news:pb6dnVRDlvcm_8LRnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d@giganews.com...
> >>> What, no 1/2.3"sensored superzooms? *I'm shocked.

>
> >>>http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/news/Leica_X1
> >>> _The_first_compact_approved_by_Getty_news_300782.h tml

>
> >> Getty's list has been a joke for a long time:

>
> >>http://contributors.gettyimages.com/...asp?article_id....

>
> >> No canon 5D II? No Nikon D3s? No Canon 7D? No Leica M9? Hmmm......

>
> >Even sillier, they list the D300 and not the D700?
> >...and if the D300, why not the D90?

>
> Yes, it's a stupid and lame attempt to try and control the quality of
> the images they collect based on camera make and model.


Alamy has some kind of test based on noise. However, I had no trouble
with a Panasonic G1 (or Nikon D300) images submitted.

Bruce 08-09-2010 07:51 PM

Re: Leica X1, only compact approved by Getty Images
 
On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 13:06:52 -0400, Bowser <Canon@Nikon.Panny> wrote:
>On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 14:38:25 +0100, Bruce <docnews2011@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>>On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 07:52:16 -0400, "Bowser" <badda@bing.com> wrote:
>>>"Rich" <none@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>>>news:pb6dnVRDlvcm_8LRnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>> What, no 1/2.3"sensored superzooms? I'm shocked.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/news/Leica_X1
>>>> _The_first_compact_approved_by_Getty_news_300782.h tml
>>>
>>>Getty's list has been a joke for a long time:
>>>
>>>http://contributors.gettyimages.com/...rticle_id=1346
>>>
>>>No canon 5D II? No Nikon D3s? No Canon 7D? No Leica M9? Hmmm......
>>>
>>>One other thing: Since the Leica X1 is amazingly slow, you'd best press that
>>>button now for images of things that happen next week. It may be slow, but
>>>is is expensive.

>>
>>
>>You have obviously given the Leica X1 a detailed, extended trial, so
>>perhaps you could tell us what you believe are its good points?
>>
>>What I mean is, you couldn't possibly have made comments such as those
>>you made above without having given the Leica X1 a detailed, extended
>>trial, could you? Because that would make those comments pure BS, and
>>we all know you have *such* a strong aversion to that. ;-)

>
>I did try one, and gave up after a few hours.



Then let's see some samples. Go on, post them, and make sure the EFIF
information is left intact.


C. Werner 08-09-2010 08:00 PM

Re: Leica X1, only compact approved by Getty Images
 
On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 12:44:54 -0700 (PDT), RichA <rander3127@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Aug 9, 1:08*pm, Bowser <Ca...@Nikon.Panny> wrote:
>> On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 08:37:14 -0700, Savageduck
>>
>>
>>
>> <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>> >On 2010-08-09 04:52:16 -0700, "Bowser" <ba...@bing.com> said:

>>
>> >> "Rich" <n...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>> >>news:pb6dnVRDlvcm_8LRnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d@giganews.com...
>> >>> What, no 1/2.3"sensored superzooms? *I'm shocked.

>>
>> >>>http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/news/Leica_X1
>> >>> _The_first_compact_approved_by_Getty_news_300782.h tml

>>
>> >> Getty's list has been a joke for a long time:

>>
>> >>http://contributors.gettyimages.com/...asp?article_id...

>>
>> >> No canon 5D II? No Nikon D3s? No Canon 7D? No Leica M9? Hmmm......

>>
>> >Even sillier, they list the D300 and not the D700?
>> >...and if the D300, why not the D90?

>>
>> Yes, it's a stupid and lame attempt to try and control the quality of
>> the images they collect based on camera make and model.

>
>Alamy has some kind of test based on noise. However, I had no trouble
>with a Panasonic G1 (or Nikon D300) images submitted.


All that it shows is to not deal with Getty in any way shape or form. Any
people running a company that are that amazingly ignorant and stupid are
not worth the bother and are not to be encouraged.


Bruce 08-09-2010 08:20 PM

Re: Leica X1, only compact approved by Getty Images
 
On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 15:00:04 -0500, C. Werner <none@noaddress.com>
wrote:

>On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 12:44:54 -0700 (PDT), RichA <rander3127@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Aug 9, 1:08*pm, Bowser <Ca...@Nikon.Panny> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 08:37:14 -0700, Savageduck
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>>> >On 2010-08-09 04:52:16 -0700, "Bowser" <ba...@bing.com> said:
>>>
>>> >> "Rich" <n...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>>> >>news:pb6dnVRDlvcm_8LRnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>> >>> What, no 1/2.3"sensored superzooms? *I'm shocked.
>>>
>>> >>>http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/news/Leica_X1
>>> >>> _The_first_compact_approved_by_Getty_news_300782.h tml
>>>
>>> >> Getty's list has been a joke for a long time:
>>>
>>> >>http://contributors.gettyimages.com/...asp?article_id...
>>>
>>> >> No canon 5D II? No Nikon D3s? No Canon 7D? No Leica M9? Hmmm......
>>>
>>> >Even sillier, they list the D300 and not the D700?
>>> >...and if the D300, why not the D90?
>>>
>>> Yes, it's a stupid and lame attempt to try and control the quality of
>>> the images they collect based on camera make and model.

>>
>>Alamy has some kind of test based on noise. However, I had no trouble
>>with a Panasonic G1 (or Nikon D300) images submitted.

>
>All that it shows is to not deal with Getty in any way shape or form. Any
>people running a company that are that amazingly ignorant and stupid are
>not worth the bother and are not to be encouraged.



Neither Getty nor Alamy use lists of cameras whose results are
accepted, while results from other cameras are automatically rejected.
The criteria for acceptance are based on the quality of the image
being submitted, not the brand and model of the camera that was used
to capture it.

Both agencies will accept results from a variety of cameras, including
some of the better compact P&S cameras, and from super-zooms, provided
that they are of a sufficiently high standard. The camera lists are
therefore meaningless - and that's why Getty Images have refused to
make any comment about theirs.

The addition of the Leica X-1 to a list that isn't actually used might
be of some peripheral marketing value to Leica, but it has no
relevance at all in the real world .


C. Werner 08-09-2010 08:35 PM

Re: Leica X1, only compact approved by Getty Images
 
On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 21:20:47 +0100, Bruce <docnews2011@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 15:00:04 -0500, C. Werner <none@noaddress.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 12:44:54 -0700 (PDT), RichA <rander3127@gmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Aug 9, 1:08*pm, Bowser <Ca...@Nikon.Panny> wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 08:37:14 -0700, Savageduck
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>>>> >On 2010-08-09 04:52:16 -0700, "Bowser" <ba...@bing.com> said:
>>>>
>>>> >> "Rich" <n...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>>>> >>news:pb6dnVRDlvcm_8LRnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>> >>> What, no 1/2.3"sensored superzooms? *I'm shocked.
>>>>
>>>> >>>http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/news/Leica_X1
>>>> >>> _The_first_compact_approved_by_Getty_news_300782.h tml
>>>>
>>>> >> Getty's list has been a joke for a long time:
>>>>
>>>> >>http://contributors.gettyimages.com/...asp?article_id...
>>>>
>>>> >> No canon 5D II? No Nikon D3s? No Canon 7D? No Leica M9? Hmmm......
>>>>
>>>> >Even sillier, they list the D300 and not the D700?
>>>> >...and if the D300, why not the D90?
>>>>
>>>> Yes, it's a stupid and lame attempt to try and control the quality of
>>>> the images they collect based on camera make and model.
>>>
>>>Alamy has some kind of test based on noise. However, I had no trouble
>>>with a Panasonic G1 (or Nikon D300) images submitted.

>>
>>All that it shows is to not deal with Getty in any way shape or form. Any
>>people running a company that are that amazingly ignorant and stupid are
>>not worth the bother and are not to be encouraged.

>
>
>Neither Getty nor Alamy use lists of cameras whose results are
>accepted, while results from other cameras are automatically rejected.
>The criteria for acceptance are based on the quality of the image
>being submitted, not the brand and model of the camera that was used
>to capture it.
>
>Both agencies will accept results from a variety of cameras, including
>some of the better compact P&S cameras, and from super-zooms, provided
>that they are of a sufficiently high standard. The camera lists are
>therefore meaningless - and that's why Getty Images have refused to
>make any comment about theirs.
>
>The addition of the Leica X-1 to a list that isn't actually used might
>be of some peripheral marketing value to Leica, but it has no
>relevance at all in the real world .


Then it would behoove them to remove their lists altogether and encourage
others to never make any mention of any "approved cameras list". Like
stepping in and slapping trolls like RichA publicly. Even stating it loudly
and boldly on their main pages. Or they remain looking like fools. That
they do not do this only proves my point all the more, they shouldn't be
dealt with nor encouraged/rewarded financially in any way.


RichA 08-09-2010 08:53 PM

Re: Leica X1, only compact approved by Getty Images
 
On Aug 9, 4:00*pm, C. Werner <n...@noaddress.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 12:44:54 -0700 (PDT), RichA <rander3...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >On Aug 9, 1:08*pm, Bowser <Ca...@Nikon.Panny> wrote:
> >> On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 08:37:14 -0700, Savageduck

>
> >> <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> >> >On 2010-08-09 04:52:16 -0700, "Bowser" <ba...@bing.com> said:

>
> >> >> "Rich" <n...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> >> >>news:pb6dnVRDlvcm_8LRnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d@giganews.com...
> >> >>> What, no 1/2.3"sensored superzooms? *I'm shocked.

>
> >> >>>http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/news/Leica_X1
> >> >>> _The_first_compact_approved_by_Getty_news_300782.h tml

>
> >> >> Getty's list has been a joke for a long time:

>
> >> >>http://contributors.gettyimages.com/...asp?article_id...

>
> >> >> No canon 5D II? No Nikon D3s? No Canon 7D? No Leica M9? Hmmm......

>
> >> >Even sillier, they list the D300 and not the D700?
> >> >...and if the D300, why not the D90?

>
> >> Yes, it's a stupid and lame attempt to try and control the quality of
> >> the images they collect based on camera make and model.

>
> >Alamy has some kind of test based on noise. *However, I had no trouble
> >with a Panasonic G1 (or Nikon D300) images submitted.

>
> All that it shows is to not deal with Getty in any way shape or form. Any
> people running a company that are that amazingly ignorant and stupid are
> not worth the bother and are not to be encouraged.


They probably just want to lessen the amount of work that would be
entailed, screening out junk that would get submitted if they opened
the flood-gates to every camera, some of which (P&S's) can't produce
acceptable.


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