kids safe
 

Is there a plugin or add-on that restricts which web sites can be
visited? I can't watch the kids all the time, but would like to allow
them to go online safely without close supervision. I'm using fedora 10
which allows multiple users. I've disabled Firefox for the kids but
would like to enable it, if possible.

Thanks,

-- Wayne.

Re: kids safe
 

wayne wrote:
> Is there a plugin or add-on that restricts which web sites can be
> visited? I can't watch the kids all the time, but would like to allow
> them to go online safely without close supervision. I'm using fedora 10
> which allows multiple users. I've disabled Firefox for the kids but
> would like to enable it, if possible.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -- Wayne.

plugin or add-on: no, not really.

There are a few options, such as the Porn HOSTS files
which you can obtain from here: http://hostsfile.mine.nu/

You can also look into something like net-nanny:
http://www.netnanny.com/

or cyber patrol: http://www.cyberpatrol.com/

or other sites like: http://www.cyberpatrol.com/

or best of all, have trust in your kids.

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Re: kids safe
 

On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 03:39:33 GMT, wayne wrote:

> Is there a plugin or add-on that restricts which web sites can be
> visited? I can't watch the kids all the time, but would like to allow
> them to go online safely without close supervision. I'm using fedora 10
> which allows multiple users. I've disabled Firefox for the kids but
> would like to enable it, if possible.

I've never used it but have a look at:
KidZui <https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/9689>

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Re: kids safe
 

On Sun, 12 Apr 2009 21:21:25 -0700, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

> wayne wrote:
>> Is there a plugin or add-on that restricts which web sites can be
>> visited? I can't watch the kids all the time, but would like to allow
>> them to go online safely without close supervision. I'm using fedora
>> 10 which allows multiple users. I've disabled Firefox for the kids but
>> would like to enable it, if possible.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> -- Wayne.
>
> plugin or add-on: no, not really.
>
> There are a few options, such as the Porn HOSTS files which you can
> obtain from here: http://hostsfile.mine.nu/
>
> You can also look into something like net-nanny:
> http://www.netnanny.com/
>
> or cyber patrol: http://www.cyberpatrol.com/
>
> or other sites like: http://www.cyberpatrol.com/
>
> or best of all, have trust in your kids.

Those don't quite do what I need. Thanks.

Re: kids safe
 

On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 00:27:27 -0400, Ed Mullen wrote:

> Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
>> wayne wrote:
>>> Is there a plugin or add-on that restricts which web sites can be
>>> visited? I can't watch the kids all the time, but would like to allow
>>> them to go online safely without close supervision. I'm using fedora
>>> 10 which allows multiple users. I've disabled Firefox for the kids
>>> but would like to enable it, if possible.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> -- Wayne.
>>
>> plugin or add-on: no, not really.
>>
>> There are a few options, such as the Porn HOSTS files which you can
>> obtain from here: http://hostsfile.mine.nu/
>>
>> You can also look into something like net-nanny:
>> http://www.netnanny.com/
>>
>> or cyber patrol: http://www.cyberpatrol.com/
>>
>> or other sites like: http://www.cyberpatrol.com/
>>
>> or best of all, have trust in your kids.
>>
>>
> Love them. Respect them. Teach them. Guide them. Do NOT trust them.
>
> They are kids. They're probably smarter about computers than you are.
> If not, they have friends who are and will help them defeat whatever
> blocks you put on their systems.
>
> They are genetically geared at that age to push their boundaries (the
> ones you set) but don't have the survival instincts to understand the
> consequences of what they're doing. Their brains won't stop developing
> physiologically until they are in their twenties.
>
> Trust? Not hardly.

It's not really a matter of trust. Click on the wrong link and bam, hard
core abounds. I need something that prevents xxx sites from loading.
Thanks.

Re: kids safe
 

On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 14:40:21 +1000, Rom wrote:

> On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 03:39:33 GMT, wayne wrote:
>
>> Is there a plugin or add-on that restricts which web sites can be
>> visited? I can't watch the kids all the time, but would like to allow
>> them to go online safely without close supervision. I'm using fedora
>> 10 which allows multiple users. I've disabled Firefox for the kids but
>> would like to enable it, if possible.
>
> I've never used it but have a look at: KidZui
> <https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/9689>

Comments say that it is Windows based. I'm on Linux. Thanks.

Re: kids safe
 

On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 11:35:39 GMT, wayne wrote:

> On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 14:40:21 +1000, Rom wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 03:39:33 GMT, wayne wrote:
>>
>>> Is there a plugin or add-on that restricts which web sites can be
>>> visited? I can't watch the kids all the time, but would like to allow
>>> them to go online safely without close supervision. I'm using fedora
>>> 10 which allows multiple users. I've disabled Firefox for the kids but
>>> would like to enable it, if possible.
>>
>> I've never used it but have a look at: KidZui
>> <https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/9689>
>
> Comments say that it is Windows based. I'm on Linux. Thanks.

See the comment by "cliffboro" on February 17, 2009 here:
<https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/reviews/display/9689>
and from <http://www.kidzui.com/help>:
<http://server.iad.liveperson.net/hc/s-14285969/cmd/kbresource/kb-7400324049766694169/view_question!PAGETYPE?sq=linux&sf=101113&sg=1&st= 593299&documentid=348679&action=view>
<http://server.iad.liveperson.net/hc/s-14285969/cmd/kbresource/kb-7400324049766694169/view_question!PAGETYPE?sq=linux&sf=101113&st=59329 9&documentid=356893&action=view>

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Re: kids safe
 

On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 22:08:29 +1000, Rom wrote:

> On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 11:35:39 GMT, wayne wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 14:40:21 +1000, Rom wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 03:39:33 GMT, wayne wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is there a plugin or add-on that restricts which web sites can be
>>>> visited? I can't watch the kids all the time, but would like to
>>>> allow them to go online safely without close supervision. I'm using
>>>> fedora 10 which allows multiple users. I've disabled Firefox for the
>>>> kids but would like to enable it, if possible.
>>>
>>> I've never used it but have a look at: KidZui
>>> <https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/9689>
>>
>> Comments say that it is Windows based. I'm on Linux. Thanks.
>
> See the comment by "cliffboro" on February 17, 2009 here:
> <https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/reviews/display/9689> and from
> <http://www.kidzui.com/help>:
> <http://server.iad.liveperson.net/hc/...md/kbresource/
kb-7400324049766694169/view_question!PAGETYPE?
sq=linux&sf=101113&sg=1&st=593299&documentid=34867 9&action=view>
> <http://server.iad.liveperson.net/hc/...md/kbresource/
kb-7400324049766694169/view_question!PAGETYPE?
sq=linux&sf=101113&st=593299&documentid=356893&act ion=view>

Thanks. I'll give a try.

Re: kids safe
 

On Apr 13, 11:13*am, Porter Smith <my_port_2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> wayne <wa...@myhome.nospam> wrote in news:VtyEl.12103$jZ1.4009
> @flpi144.ffdc.sbc.com:
>
> > Is there a plugin or add-on that restricts which web sites can be
> > visited? *I can't watch the kids all the time, but would like to allow
> > them to go online safely without close supervision. *I'm using fedora 10
> > which allows multiple users. *I've disabled Firefox for the kids but
> > would like to enable it, if possible.
>
> > Thanks,
>
> > -- Wayne.
>
> Move the PC from the kid's bedroom to the family room.
>
> Routinely check the browser history to see where they have been. Discuss
> why some sites are inappropriate. *If they re-offend, suspend browser
> priv's *for a week.

Funny this topic should come up today, as I have just been amending a
young friend's computer to minimize the various threats to his moral
well being. I certainly agree with Porter that the computer should be
in a public area.

I have been using K9 Web Protection for this purpose. I had previously
installed it on his computer, but he is a cunning devil. He disabled
the HighSpeed somehow, then told his mother that he needed the
password to get it going again. On the usually valid assumption that
people use one password for everything, he then successfully
uninstalled the program, using the password his mother had given him.

The young are smart, but we older folk (especially those at K9) know a
thing or two as well. As soon as he uninstalled the program, K9 sent
an email to my registration address informing that the program had
been uninstalled. It is now back on, with a password that I am not
revealing to his mother.

The program runs unobtrusively, and seems to work. I tried visiting
warez sites and googling some words referring to various body parts
and activities thereof, and was stymied every time. You can set
various levels of filtering, including custom. You can allow
exceptions, temporarily or permanently. For example, I am using the
Default which blocks social networking sites. His mother has approved
Facebook, so I programmed in an exception. Should he not behave
properly, it's very easy to cut off Facebook (at least on his
computer).

http://www1.k9webprotection.com/
kk

Re: kids safe
 

Responding to wayne:

> On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 00:27:27 -0400, Ed Mullen wrote:
>
>> Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
>>> wayne wrote:
>>>> Is there a plugin or add-on that restricts which web sites can be
>>>> visited? I can't watch the kids all the time, but would like to
>>>> allow them to go online safely without close supervision. I'm using
>>>> fedora 10 which allows multiple users. I've disabled Firefox for the
>>>> kids but would like to enable it, if possible.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> -- Wayne.
>>>
>>> plugin or add-on: no, not really.
>>>
>>> There are a few options, such as the Porn HOSTS files which you can
>>> obtain from here: http://hostsfile.mine.nu/
>>>
>>> You can also look into something like net-nanny:
>>> http://www.netnanny.com/
>>>
>>> or cyber patrol: http://www.cyberpatrol.com/
>>>
>>> or other sites like: http://www.cyberpatrol.com/
>>>
>>> or best of all, have trust in your kids.
>>>
>>>
>> Love them. Respect them. Teach them. Guide them. Do NOT trust them.
>>
>> They are kids. They're probably smarter about computers than you are.
>> If not, they have friends who are and will help them defeat whatever
>> blocks you put on their systems.
>>
>> They are genetically geared at that age to push their boundaries (the
>> ones you set) but don't have the survival instincts to understand the
>> consequences of what they're doing. Their brains won't stop developing
>> physiologically until they are in their twenties.
>>
>> Trust? Not hardly.
>
> It's not really a matter of trust. Click on the wrong link and bam,
> hard core abounds. I need something that prevents xxx sites from
> loading. Thanks.


I notice on another reply, you're using Linux.

Assuming you have more than one computer in the house, could you use your
main one (that you control) as a forwarding router, and filter any
machines behind it through that?

I'm thinking about /etc/hosts style filtering where you could keep an
up2date list of URLs to redirect into the void.

Either that, or dump your ISP and get an AOL style portal service?

On the downside, kids will see stuff you wouldn't want them to anyway, if
they want to, as their friends will surely have mobile phones etc. and a
viral peer group network.

Maybe monitoring, followed by subtle persuasion in the form of a "risk of
severe embarrassment if dad finds out about this" regime? Hints that you
have plenty of disk space for logs, and can get copies from your ISP at
any time, and so on. Let 'em know they are not in any way going to sneak
anything past you.

If done with minimum fuss, it could help form a bond of trust that will
probably be far more productive in the long run than attempting a techno-
battle with creatures way faster than you with today's technology.

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