I'm a little confused even after reading the Microsoft site.
I was looking at doing MCSA a year or so back but didnt go through
with it. I kinder understand the new courses that theres more 2/3
module courses (these MCITP courses) along with the MCP eqivilent Tech
However I thought the MCSA/MCSE would not continue for Vista/Win08
however the Microsoft site lists the Vista Tech Specialist modules as
being able to be part of the MCSA/E.
Q) Does that mean that when Win08 comes out, there will not be a MCSA/
Q) Will there be a Win08 MCITP?
Q) For a sys admin person, should you aim for a few MCITP courses to
get to the same standard as an MCSA/E or just specialise more?
Lots of Q's - sorry bout that.
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> I'm a little confused even after reading the Microsoft site.
> I was looking at doing MCSA a year or so back but didnt go through
> with it. I kinder understand the new courses that theres more 2/3
> module courses (these MCITP courses) along with the MCP eqivilent Tech
> However I thought the MCSA/MCSE would not continue for Vista/Win08
> however the Microsoft site lists the Vista Tech Specialist modules as
> being able to be part of the MCSA/E.
The 70-620 is being accepted as the ClientOS requirement for the MCSA/MCSE.
Presumably that's in recognition of the fact that Vista desktops in a
Windows Server 2003 environment will likely exist for the forseeable future.
> Q) Does that mean that when Win08 comes out, there will not be a MCSA/
> E Win08?
There will NOT be any new MCSA/MSCE certifications. They stop with Windows
The Windows Server 2008 certifications (as will EVERYTHING NEW) be MCTS and
> Q) Will there be a Win08 MCITP?
Yes.... there are two:
MCITP: Server Administrator
MCITP: Enterprise Administrator
The specific requirements have not yet been posted, but based on the study
guides and the beta exams, they include (at a minimum):
70-640 Win2008 Active Directory, Configuring
70-642 Win2008 Network Infrastructure, Configuring
70-643 Win2008 Applications Infrastructure, Configuring
for both certifications,
and the following additional exams for each of the two MCITP:
70-646 Win2008, Server Administrator
70-647 Win2008, Enterprise Administrator
and the part not yet documented, but expected, is that the Vista desktop
exam will be required on one or both of those MCITP certs, based on the fact
that it's already being accepted as the ClientOS requirement for the
70-620 Windows Vista, Configuring
> Q) For a sys admin person, should you aim for a few MCITP courses to
> get to the same standard as an MCSA/E or just specialise more?
From what I've read, considering that comparing MCSA/MCSE to MCTS/MCITP is
kinda like comparing peaches to plums....
The MCITP Server Administrator is essentially the same level as the
MCSA -- those who maintain the server infrastructure, and
the MCITP Enterprise Administrator is essentially the same level as the
MCSE -- those who design the infrastructure.
See the exam prep guides for the 70-646 and 70-647 for additional insight as
to the differences between the two. Hopefully the MCITP specifications for
those two certs will be posted (along with the MCTS specifications) in the
near future (although maybe not until the exams are officially released).
The significant point to note about the difference between the two systems
is that the MCSA/MCSE is a perpetual certification, once earned, you hold it
forever. However, the MCITP certification will require "renewal", ostensibly
by either passing a "refresher" exam, or replacing it with a newer MCTS exam
(the specifics have not yet been published, as no MCITP has even remotely
reached this point yet -- but look for SQL2005/SQL2008 to be the first
example of that scenario). Also, note that MCTS certifications will
expire -- concurrent with the expiration of Mainstream Support for the
product on which the MCTS was earned. Typically that's a minimum of five
years from the release date (e.g. April 2011 for SQL Server 2005).
See http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mc...n/default.mspx for details on
the MCTS expiration policy and MCITP renewal policy.
Lawrence Garvin, M.S., MCBMSP, MCTS, MCP
Senior Data Architect, APQC, Houston, Texas
MVP - Software Distribution (2005-2007)
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