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Stupid company paying $9.00 for PC tech
The company that I interviewed and got a job from today is a
dumb-ass company paying $9.00 for PC techs. And they were saying full benefits are included. It won't take long to them to learn they just can't throw money out like that when PC techs are a dime a dozen and cheap as dirt. Anyway, I m happy that I got the job. |
Re: Stupid company paying $9.00 for PC tech
On Jul 22, 2004 "ImhoTech" blathered:
> Not quite following you here....9.00 is cheap as dirt. Even in todays tough > job market I don't know any experienced techs who would work for that. For once ImhoTech, I will have to agree with you. -- TechGeekPro - MCSA, A+, Net+, i-Net+ "Not only am I certified, I'm certifiable!" |
Re: Stupid company paying $9.00 for PC tech
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 09:36:54 -0400, "ImhoTech" <bobo@yoodelers.net>
wrote: > >"Main" <Main@ocean.com> wrote in message >news:afgvf0pvkgcb4f997051un58bi8qdvc4fn@4ax.com.. . >> The company that I interviewed and got a job from today is a >> dumb-ass company paying $9.00 for PC techs. And they were >> saying full benefits are included. It won't take long to >> them to learn they just can't throw money out like that >> when PC techs are a dime a dozen and cheap as dirt. Anyway, >> I m happy that I got the job. > >Not quite following you here....9.00 is cheap as dirt. Even in todays tough >job market I don't know any experienced techs who would work for that. > Well, that's close to $13/hour Canadian, which where I live is good money. Not great, but good, and actually great for a basic PC repair gig. For any large center, though, it'd be pretty low, I'd guess. Tom |
Re: Stupid company paying $9.00 for PC tech
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 17:25:15 -0400, "ImhoTech" <bobo@yoodelers.net>
wrote: > >"Tom MacIntyre" <tom__macintyre@hotmail.com> wrote in message >news:6a90g0plsc91iqag4qm21t7f85po9n60uc@4ax.com.. . >> On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 09:36:54 -0400, "ImhoTech" <bobo@yoodelers.net> >> wrote: >> >> >> Well, that's close to $13/hour Canadian, which where I live is good >> money. Not great, but good, and actually great for a basic PC repair >> gig. For any large center, though, it'd be pretty low, I'd guess. >> >> Tom > >Out of curiosity, how does Canada's cost of living compare to US? > I'm not sure, but with Canada and the US being big countries, there are wide variances across both countries. Check these out... http://www.homefair.com/homefair/calc/salcalc.html http://www.homefair.com/homefair/ser...199&internal=T I live in Sydney, Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia. To live in Vancouver, British Columbia, my salary would have to be over 69% higher for the same quality of life/living, based on this particular calculator. To live in Fort Worth, Texas, just under 34% more (if they are working the $ conversion in, which I hope they are doing. If not, it's about 80% more.) To live in NY, NY...191% more based on them converting the $, if not, about 300% more. Big differences. It's relatively cheap to live here. Tom |
Re: Stupid company paying $9.00 for PC tech
"Main" <Main@ocean.com> wrote in message news:afgvf0pvkgcb4f997051un58bi8qdvc4fn@4ax.com... > The company that I interviewed and got a job from today is a > dumb-ass company paying $9.00 for PC techs. And they were > saying full benefits are included. It won't take long to > them to learn they just can't throw money out like that > when PC techs are a dime a dozen and cheap as dirt. Anyway, > I m happy that I got the job. I wouldn't work for that, except maybe just for the experience. |
Re: Stupid company insulting by paying $9.00 for PC tech
"Main" <Main@ocean.com> wrote in message
news:afgvf0pvkgcb4f997051un58bi8qdvc4fn@4ax.com... > The company that I interviewed and got a job from today is a > dumb-ass company paying $9.00 for PC techs. And they were > saying full benefits are included. It won't take long to > them to learn they just can't throw money out like that > when PC techs are a dime a dozen and cheap as dirt. Anyway, > I m happy that I got the job. are you *trying* to sound like an a- no, i'll assume you merely have a lack of understanding of how the job market works. $9/hr is only a mere $18.7K per annum, just barely above the poverty line. you could make $9/hr working in a damn WAREHOUSE, and that doesnt even require a SKILL! anybody who even remotely understands what a computer is and does, obviously has some intelligence, a feature notably LACKING in the hoi polloi. how many of those idiots (HR guys included) can distinguish between a 115V AC power connector and an IDE interface?! to suggest that anybody would go through the trouble of studying, then spending $200+ of their own money for testing and certification (not to mention for the study materials) just so they could make as much money WITH a marketable skill as some schmuck in a warehouse WITHOUT, $9/hr is an INSULT. perhaps in some hokey backwoods "economically depressed" area where rednecks swill beer and jobs are scarce, where even the techies have no idea of how much money they could and should be making... ....i need a good stiff drink after that one. -- Brought to you courtesy of Kozanski's Morgue & Grill |
Re: Stupid company insulting by paying $9.00 for PC tech
"Michael" <none@none.com> wrote in message news:RhsNc.15862$f4.10304@newsread3.news.atl.earth link.net... > Solomon Kozanski wrote: > > > "Main" <Main@ocean.com> wrote in message > > news:afgvf0pvkgcb4f997051un58bi8qdvc4fn@4ax.com... > > > >>The company that I interviewed and got a job from today is a > >>dumb-ass company paying $9.00 for PC techs. And they were > >>saying full benefits are included. It won't take long to > >>them to learn they just can't throw money out like that > >>when PC techs are a dime a dozen and cheap as dirt. Anyway, > >>I m happy that I got the job. > > > > > > are you *trying* to sound like an a- no, i'll assume you merely have a lack > > of understanding of how the job market works. > > > > It's simple supply and demand. I think he's thoroughly familiar with > that concept. if they want to keep the supply up to meet to demand, they should keep the job market attractive > > $9/hr is only a mere $18.7K per annum, just barely above the poverty line. > > you could make $9/hr working in a damn WAREHOUSE, and that doesnt even > > require a SKILL! > > Usually warehouse and production work is called unskilled, but often > requires forklift or machine experience. Other subsets of production > are indeed skilled or semi-skilled, for instance PLC programmers or > maintenance technicians. i think you're missing my point. what is the point of learning a skill when you could make just as much money pumping gas? > > anybody who even remotely understands what a computer is and does, obviously > > has some intelligence, a feature notably LACKING in the hoi polloi. how many > > of those idiots (HR guys included) can distinguish between a 115V AC power > > connector and an IDE interface?! > > A bit of intelligence perhaps, but I hear techs are dime a dozen, as the > OP mentioned. There are several jobs which pay $25 k a year starting > (in other fields) yet require a bachelors or masters degree. Simply > supply and demand, and the fields are flooded with potential recruits. and while a+ is not quite a degree, $25-$30K is an adequate and reasonable salary, substantially higher than an insulting $18K. > If you want good starting money, you should consider an engineering or > CS degree. actually, $25K is pretty good starting money for someone working their way up the ladder to higher certs. college isnt always necessary. > > to suggest that anybody would go through the trouble of studying, then > > spending $200+ of their own money for testing and certification (not to > > mention for the study materials) just so they could make as much money WITH > > a marketable skill as some schmuck in a warehouse WITHOUT, $9/hr is an > > INSULT. perhaps in some hokey backwoods "economically depressed" area where > > rednecks swill beer and jobs are scarce, where even the techies have no idea > > of how much money they could and should be making... > > > > $200 a big investment? A college education is 100 to 500 times that, > yet many take that gamble routinely. and its not always a gamble thay pays off. some of us are still piled high and deep, and what's interesting is that professional comp certs are approaching the salary levels of degreed professionals (do i remember something about MCSEs making $60K? i know people with MS in electrical engineering who dont make that!) > Many fields require some investment of time and materials to learn, e.g. > music, art, electronics, etc. Do you really think Bill Gates learned to > program in school, or Steve Wozniak learned digital design in school? > They primarily learned on their own, which required some investment of > time and materials. do you really think bill gates learned to program? aside from that, they invested time and materials and got a RETURN on that investment. $9/hr is NOT a return! > michael > > > ...i need a good stiff drink after that one. > > -- > > Brought to you courtesy of Kozanski's Morgue & Grill > > > > in short, i still think you missed my point entirely, so i will reiterate it in a condensed form: why should you work your ass off so you can continue to not make a living wage? -- Brought to you courtesy of Kozanski's Morgue & Grill |
Re: Stupid company insulting by paying $9.00 for PC tech
On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 08:19:44 -0400, "Solomon Kozanski"
<noneofyourdamnbusiness@localnet.com> wrote: >"Main" <Main@ocean.com> wrote in message >news:afgvf0pvkgcb4f997051un58bi8qdvc4fn@4ax.com.. . >> The company that I interviewed and got a job from today is a >> dumb-ass company paying $9.00 for PC techs. And they were >> saying full benefits are included. It won't take long to >> them to learn they just can't throw money out like that >> when PC techs are a dime a dozen and cheap as dirt. Anyway, >> I m happy that I got the job. > >are you *trying* to sound like an a- no, i'll assume you merely have a lack >of understanding of how the job market works. > >$9/hr is only a mere $18.7K per annum, just barely above the poverty line. >you could make $9/hr working in a damn WAREHOUSE, and that doesnt even >require a SKILL! Everything requires a skill...everything, and most jobs require multiple skills. There are probably a few warehouse employees out there who are pretty good around computers, also. What's next...maybe truck driving doesn't require a skill either. > >anybody who even remotely understands what a computer is and does, obviously >has some intelligence, a feature notably LACKING in the hoi polloi. how many >of those idiots (HR guys included) can distinguish between a 115V AC power >connector and an IDE interface?! > >to suggest that anybody would go through the trouble of studying, then >spending $200+ of their own money for testing and certification (not to >mention for the study materials) just so they could make as much money WITH >a marketable skill as some schmuck in a warehouse WITHOUT, $9/hr is an >INSULT. perhaps in some hokey backwoods "economically depressed" area where >rednecks swill beer and jobs are scarce, where even the techies have no idea >of how much money they could and should be making... You're way off the mark...if you are referring to an area like where I live, we have high unemployment, but as for the rest of the stereotype, you're wrong. We have a well-educated work force, partly due to the availability of government programs helping the unemployed return to school. The cost of living is low. You seem to think that you are somehow better than some "schmuck" who is a (insert grunt job title here). I don't agree with your view of the work force. Tom > >...i need a good stiff drink after that one. |
Re: Stupid company insulting by paying $9.00 for PC tech
On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 09:47:56 -0400, "Solomon Kozanski"
<noneofyourdamnbusiness@localnet.com> wrote: >and while a+ is not quite a degree, $25-$30K is an adequate and reasonable >salary, substantially higher than an insulting $18K. > It all depends on how much income is required to support oneself and family, though. That's one of the things about having a national salary standard for government workers. The pay is substantially better (relatively) in a place like here compared to, say, Toronto or Vancouver. Tom |
Re: Stupid company insulting by paying $9.00 for PC tech
"Tom MacIntyre" <tom__macintyre@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:d8ddg0p674qkc0t18vua52051ng5qqds0r@4ax.com... > On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 08:19:44 -0400, "Solomon Kozanski" > <noneofyourdamnbusiness@localnet.com> wrote: > > >"Main" <Main@ocean.com> wrote in message > >news:afgvf0pvkgcb4f997051un58bi8qdvc4fn@4ax.com.. . > >> The company that I interviewed and got a job from today is a > >> dumb-ass company paying $9.00 for PC techs. And they were > >> saying full benefits are included. It won't take long to > >> them to learn they just can't throw money out like that > >> when PC techs are a dime a dozen and cheap as dirt. Anyway, > >> I m happy that I got the job. > > > >are you *trying* to sound like an a- no, i'll assume you merely have a lack > >of understanding of how the job market works. > > > >$9/hr is only a mere $18.7K per annum, just barely above the poverty line. > >you could make $9/hr working in a damn WAREHOUSE, and that doesnt even > >require a SKILL! I happen to have plenty of skills computer and otherwise...I am lucky to have a job in this city... Better to be versatile and make some money.... but I suppose working in a warehouse is somehow below you... I'm willing to bet you can't lift a 30 foot boat and place it on a coupla 2 x 6's 40 feet in the air... http://www.whiskeyislandmarina.com/reasons.html BTW I think it is easier to find a job when you have a job when you are already employed... .... somehow the new employer sees that you must actually be worth something, because you were employed by someone else to begin with. > Everything requires a skill...everything, and most jobs require > multiple skills. There are probably a few warehouse employees out > there who are pretty good around computers, also. What's next...maybe > truck driving doesn't require a skill either. > > > > >anybody who even remotely understands what a computer is and does, obviously > >has some intelligence, a feature notably LACKING in the hoi polloi. how many > >of those idiots (HR guys included) can distinguish between a 115V AC power > >connector and an IDE interface?! > > > >to suggest that anybody would go through the trouble of studying, then > >spending $200+ of their own money for testing and certification (not to > >mention for the study materials) just so they could make as much money WITH > >a marketable skill as some schmuck in a warehouse WITHOUT, $9/hr is an > >INSULT. perhaps in some hokey backwoods "economically depressed" area where > >rednecks swill beer and jobs are scarce, where even the techies have no idea > >of how much money they could and should be making... > > You're way off the mark...if you are referring to an area like where I > live, we have high unemployment, but as for the rest of the > stereotype, you're wrong. We have a well-educated work force, partly > due to the availability of government programs helping the unemployed > return to school. The cost of living is low. You seem to think that > you are somehow better than some "schmuck" who is a (insert grunt job > title here). I don't agree with your view of the work force. > > Tom > > > > >...i need a good stiff drink after that one. I agree with what he said... Bonehead |
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