On some web sites I see that <p> is not used.
 

Any idea? Good or bad!?

Example...

http://www.realitysoftware.ca/servic...opment/design/

IMHO very well design and of course validated.

What caught my attention is that:

#logo {
width : 313px;
height : 48px;
background-image : url(images/logo.png);
text-indent : -9999px;
float : left;
}

text-indent : -9999px;

Re: On some web sites I see that <p> is not used.
 

iwach wrote:
> Any idea? Good or bad!?
>
> Example...
>
> http://www.realitysoftware.ca/servic...opment/design/
>
> IMHO very well design and of course validated.
>
It is used, but only where they felt they needed a line break, which is
not what the p tag is for. It's wrong: a paragraph should be marked up
as a paragraph. So much for their ability to create a "truly well
designed website".

Re: On some web sites I see that <p> is not used.
 

iwach wrote:
> Any idea? Good or bad!?

Looking only at the message text I had no idea what you were talking
about. Please do not put vital info about your query only in the subject
line. Repeat or restate it in the body of the message. thanks

> Example...
>
> http://www.realitysoftware.ca/servic...opment/design/

2 line breaks do not equal a paragraph, i.e. <br><br> != <p>
Anonymous text (missing <p> tag following a heading) is not assumed to
be a paragraph, either.

If you don't understand the semantic difference, look at how <br><br>
comes out in Lynx.

BTW, <br><br> (or no tags at all) is most often generated by the editor
in some kind of CMS. The one used by the above site seems not very good.

> What caught my attention is that:
>
> #logo {
> background-image : url(images/logo.png);
> text-indent : -9999px;
> }

That's an image replacement method. Look at the page with image loading
disabled and you won't be so impressed. That's the biggest flaw in most
IR methods, and a good reason to not use them.

--
Berg

Re: On some web sites I see that <p> is not used.
 

On 13 Jan, 10:22, iwach <cfg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Any idea? Good or bad!?

"Better than the usual crap" doesn't mean "good".

Uses XHTML. Always a sign of cluelessness unless the author can
demonstrate some good reason _why_.

Home page doesn't demonstrate a real problem but this page:
<http://www.realitysoftware.ca/servic...nt/e-commerce/
>
Doesn't know its <p> from its <br> and that's just plain dumb wrong.
Not always invalid, but still wrong.

Re: On some web sites I see that <p> is not used.
 

"Andy Dingley" <dingbat@codesmiths.com> wrote in message
news:8a72495e-788d-422e-9646-979e250ab84d@n33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
> On 13 Jan, 10:22, iwach <cfg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Any idea? Good or bad!?
>
> "Better than the usual crap" doesn't mean "good".
>
> Uses XHTML. Always a sign of cluelessness unless the author can
> demonstrate some good reason _why_.

Oooh, contentious!!!

Reason I like it - it just fits better in my slightly anal version of how
disciplined markup should look. I like things indented neatly, I like
"code"-y bits clearly differentiated in the markup. I like tags to have an
open and close. And clients like having their websites designed with
something with an "X" in it.

It doesn't actually do any *harm* to serve XHTML as HTML, save for the harm
it does to the concept, but until the big M rectifies that, the concept is
dead in the water.

+mrcakey

Re: On some web sites I see that <p> is not used.
 

On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 19:22:06 +0900, iwach <cfgjbh@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Any idea? Good or bad!?
>
>Example...
>
>http://www.realitysoftware.ca/servic...opment/design/
>
>IMHO very well design and of course validated.
>
>What caught my attention is that:
>
>#logo {
>width : 313px;
>height : 48px;
>background-image : url(images/logo.png);
>text-indent : -9999px;
>float : left;
>}
>
>text-indent : -9999px;


wtf is <p>?

Oh yeah.
It has a specific usage and some people use it wisely, while some
don't.
After all, CSS can do practically anything a <p> can nowadays.
Which is what I prefer to do.
If I need some space between two areas, just slip in a <div> and
define it with css.

Re: On some web sites I see that <p> is not used.
 

richard kirjoitti seuraavasti:
> wtf is <p>?
>
> Oh yeah.
> It has a specific usage and some people use it wisely, while some
> don't.

Which group do You belong to, then?

> After all, CSS can do practically anything a <p> can nowadays.

Practically yes, semantically, not.

> Which is what I prefer to do.

What happens when someone turns of the default css?

> If I need some space between two areas, just slip in a <div> and
> define it with css.

That's not the purpose of p. Or div, either.


--
Ari
Windows: Next best thing to sand in your hard disk.

Re: On some web sites I see that <p> is not used.
 

In article
<8a72495e-788d-422e-9646-979e250ab84d@n33g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,
Andy Dingley <dingbat@codesmiths.com> wrote:

> Uses XHTML. Always a sign of cluelessness unless the author can
> demonstrate some good reason _why_.

This is one of those in-house statements that needs to be taken with a
grain of salt. It does not follow, for example, that the cluelessness
has any particularly bad effects to the public at large, or that there
is any real incompetence in the making of websites.

--
dorayme

Re: On some web sites I see that <p> is not used.
 

In article <hufpm4lc1999sc5bik258b0vnhcuottjm2@4ax.com>,
richard <member@newsguy.com> wrote:

> wtf is <p>?
>
> Oh yeah.
> It has a specific usage and some people use it wisely, while some
> don't.
> After all, CSS can do practically anything a <p> can nowadays.
> Which is what I prefer to do.
> If I need some space between two areas, just slip in a <div> and
> define it with css.

I cannot believe you said this. Are you cleverly trolling here?

--
dorayme

Re: On some web sites I see that <p> is not used.
 

In article <hufpm4lc1999sc5bik258b0vnhcuottjm2@4ax.com>,
richard <member@newsguy.com> wrote:

> wtf is <p>?
>
> Oh yeah.
> It has a specific usage and some people use it wisely, while some
> don't.
> After all, CSS can do practically anything a <p> can nowadays.
> Which is what I prefer to do.
> If I need some space between two areas, just slip in a <div> and
> define it with css.

I cannot believe you said this. Are you cleverly trolling here?

--
dorayme