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Holo20 09-03-2006 07:46 AM

Gurus: Where do I go from here?
 
Greetings,

Several years ago I was interested in getting the MCSA cert, so I went out
and passed A+, Net+, and one of the tests in the Windows 2000 MCSA track
(can't remember which one, I'll dig it out here shortly...).

Now, I want to finish and get the cert, as my employer has not only agreed
to some paid study time, but also will pay for the tests.

My problem is that I don't have a clue where to go from here. Are they still
testing in Win2000, and if so, how much longer can I test in that OS? If not,
can my one existing test be applied to the new OS track?

Thanks for any advice,

Michael

Montreal MCT 09-03-2006 02:11 PM

RE: Gurus: Where do I go from here?
 
Hi Michael,

Firstly congratulations on making the decision to go ahead with your
certifications. You will find that certifications will make you more
valuable to your employer, and will truly learn how to be a better systems
administrator!

Microsoft has made no announcement to discontinue testing for Windows 2000
that I know of. Normally the exams will be available as long as the software
is supported - so you should have at least until the end of 2007 before they
are stopped. That being said, if you want to maximize your potential you
should consider investing in the books for the MCSA on Windows 2003. The
technology is similar enough that you will still be able to administer your
Windows 2000 servers, but different enought that you will be familiar with
the changes between the two.

The question about your 2000 exam will depend on which exam it was. I
believe the only MCSA 2000 exam that qualifies equally for the MCSA 2003 is
070-210: Installing, Configuring, and Administering Microsoft Windows 2000
Professional. Any of the others will not carry over.

Good luck, and let us know how it goes!

M
--
MDG, MCT
MCSA (2003), MCSA (2000), MCDST.
Certified Small Business Specialist
Visit my blog at http://www.mitpro.ca/Blogs/tabid/59/...2/Default.aspx


"Holo20" wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> Several years ago I was interested in getting the MCSA cert, so I went out
> and passed A+, Net+, and one of the tests in the Windows 2000 MCSA track
> (can't remember which one, I'll dig it out here shortly...).
>
> Now, I want to finish and get the cert, as my employer has not only agreed
> to some paid study time, but also will pay for the tests.
>
> My problem is that I don't have a clue where to go from here. Are they still
> testing in Win2000, and if so, how much longer can I test in that OS? If not,
> can my one existing test be applied to the new OS track?
>
> Thanks for any advice,
>
> Michael


Holo20 09-03-2006 10:01 PM

RE: Gurus: Where do I go from here?
 
Montreal, thanks for the reply.

I've replaced my last Server2000 instal with Server2003, in June. I now have
4 2k3 boxes on a network supporting about 60 users, plus Exchange. When I
first took the Microsoft tests, one of the reasons I did not continue the
rest was because at the time, I had only about 4 weeks hands-on experience
with Win2k, and so a lot of the material was hard to grasp. I now have
several years of hard-core, 'do or die' experience on both Win2k and 2k3.

With that in mind, do you have some recommendation for study material? Would
the actual Microsoft curriculum be the best choice? Also, where would I go to
determine what tests I need at this point for the 2k3 MCSA?

Thanks again for your time and assistance,

Michael

ps - good blog.

"Montreal MCT" wrote:

> Hi Michael,
>
> Firstly congratulations on making the decision to go ahead with your
> certifications. You will find that certifications will make you more
> valuable to your employer, and will truly learn how to be a better systems
> administrator!
>
> Microsoft has made no announcement to discontinue testing for Windows 2000
> that I know of. Normally the exams will be available as long as the software
> is supported - so you should have at least until the end of 2007 before they
> are stopped. That being said, if you want to maximize your potential you
> should consider investing in the books for the MCSA on Windows 2003. The
> technology is similar enough that you will still be able to administer your
> Windows 2000 servers, but different enought that you will be familiar with
> the changes between the two.
>
> The question about your 2000 exam will depend on which exam it was. I
> believe the only MCSA 2000 exam that qualifies equally for the MCSA 2003 is
> 070-210: Installing, Configuring, and Administering Microsoft Windows 2000
> Professional. Any of the others will not carry over.
>
> Good luck, and let us know how it goes!
>
> M
> --
> MDG, MCT
> MCSA (2003), MCSA (2000), MCDST.
> Certified Small Business Specialist
> Visit my blog at http://www.mitpro.ca/Blogs/tabid/59/...2/Default.aspx
>
>
> "Holo20" wrote:
>
> > Greetings,
> >
> > Several years ago I was interested in getting the MCSA cert, so I went out
> > and passed A+, Net+, and one of the tests in the Windows 2000 MCSA track
> > (can't remember which one, I'll dig it out here shortly...).
> >
> > Now, I want to finish and get the cert, as my employer has not only agreed
> > to some paid study time, but also will pay for the tests.
> >
> > My problem is that I don't have a clue where to go from here. Are they still
> > testing in Win2000, and if so, how much longer can I test in that OS? If not,
> > can my one existing test be applied to the new OS track?
> >
> > Thanks for any advice,
> >
> > Michael


Montreal MCT 09-04-2006 12:57 PM

RE: Gurus: Where do I go from here?
 
Hi Michael,

I understand what you are saying about hands-on exerience. If you had only
ben working with Windows 2000 for a month there is no way you should have
felt comfortable going into those exams. With the experience it sounds like
you have now you probably have the right base for them, though I would
recommend some grooming. The reality is that none of us use every aspect of
the server software, and hitting the books is an important step.

If you have the experience you need I would not think that you would have to
go back to school per se - Instructor-Led Training is expensive and can be
difficult to schedule. I'm sure that some exam-centric studying with the
book and some practice exams would do you good. For most exams I recommend
the Microsoft Press Self-Paced Training Kits which consist of a pretty good
book and some very good exam simulation software (Readiness Review Suite)
could get you ready in no time and for less money. For the MCSA on Windos
2003 I will throw in one more book that was indispensible to my passing the
upgrade exam: It is the All-In-One MCSA Windows Server 2003 Certification
Eam Guide by Stephen Giles, Damir Bersenic, and Rob Scrimger. It is
published by McGraw Hii/Osborne, and can be purchased on-line at:

http://books.mcgraw-hill.com/getbook...5424&template=

From what I can tell for your MCSA on Windows 2003 you need to pass three
exams:

70-270: Installing, Configuring, and Administering Microsoft Winodws XP
Professional (can be substituted with 70-210, Windows 2000 Professional)

70-290: Managing and Maintaining a Microsoft Windows Server 2003 Environment

and

70-291: Implementing, Managing, and Maintaining a Microsoft Winodws Server
2003 Network Infrastructure

The best place to confirm what you need is the Certification Planner on the
MCP Secure Site - once you have passed one exam you have access. The link is:

https://mcp.microsoft.com/mcp/tools/...nProgress.aspx

Good luck and let us know how you do... and thanks for the kind words about
my blog :)

M



--
MDG, MCT
MCSA (2003), MCSA (2000), MCDST.
Certified Small Business Specialist
Visit my blog at http://www.mitpro.ca/Blogs/tabid/59/...2/Default.aspx


"Holo20" wrote:

> Montreal, thanks for the reply.
>
> I've replaced my last Server2000 instal with Server2003, in June. I now have
> 4 2k3 boxes on a network supporting about 60 users, plus Exchange. When I
> first took the Microsoft tests, one of the reasons I did not continue the
> rest was because at the time, I had only about 4 weeks hands-on experience
> with Win2k, and so a lot of the material was hard to grasp. I now have
> several years of hard-core, 'do or die' experience on both Win2k and 2k3.
>
> With that in mind, do you have some recommendation for study material? Would
> the actual Microsoft curriculum be the best choice? Also, where would I go to
> determine what tests I need at this point for the 2k3 MCSA?
>
> Thanks again for your time and assistance,
>
> Michael
>
> ps - good blog.
>
> "Montreal MCT" wrote:
>
> > Hi Michael,
> >
> > Firstly congratulations on making the decision to go ahead with your
> > certifications. You will find that certifications will make you more
> > valuable to your employer, and will truly learn how to be a better systems
> > administrator!
> >
> > Microsoft has made no announcement to discontinue testing for Windows 2000
> > that I know of. Normally the exams will be available as long as the software
> > is supported - so you should have at least until the end of 2007 before they
> > are stopped. That being said, if you want to maximize your potential you
> > should consider investing in the books for the MCSA on Windows 2003. The
> > technology is similar enough that you will still be able to administer your
> > Windows 2000 servers, but different enought that you will be familiar with
> > the changes between the two.
> >
> > The question about your 2000 exam will depend on which exam it was. I
> > believe the only MCSA 2000 exam that qualifies equally for the MCSA 2003 is
> > 070-210: Installing, Configuring, and Administering Microsoft Windows 2000
> > Professional. Any of the others will not carry over.
> >
> > Good luck, and let us know how it goes!
> >
> > M
> > --
> > MDG, MCT
> > MCSA (2003), MCSA (2000), MCDST.
> > Certified Small Business Specialist
> > Visit my blog at http://www.mitpro.ca/Blogs/tabid/59/...2/Default.aspx
> >
> >
> > "Holo20" wrote:
> >
> > > Greetings,
> > >
> > > Several years ago I was interested in getting the MCSA cert, so I went out
> > > and passed A+, Net+, and one of the tests in the Windows 2000 MCSA track
> > > (can't remember which one, I'll dig it out here shortly...).
> > >
> > > Now, I want to finish and get the cert, as my employer has not only agreed
> > > to some paid study time, but also will pay for the tests.
> > >
> > > My problem is that I don't have a clue where to go from here. Are they still
> > > testing in Win2000, and if so, how much longer can I test in that OS? If not,
> > > can my one existing test be applied to the new OS track?
> > >
> > > Thanks for any advice,
> > >
> > > Michael


Holo20 09-04-2006 05:08 PM

RE: Gurus: Where do I go from here?
 
Thanks for yourtime, and suggestions!

"Montreal MCT" wrote:

> Hi Michael,
>
> I understand what you are saying about hands-on exerience. If you had only
> ben working with Windows 2000 for a month there is no way you should have
> felt comfortable going into those exams. With the experience it sounds like
> you have now you probably have the right base for them, though I would
> recommend some grooming. The reality is that none of us use every aspect of
> the server software, and hitting the books is an important step.
>
> If you have the experience you need I would not think that you would have to
> go back to school per se - Instructor-Led Training is expensive and can be
> difficult to schedule. I'm sure that some exam-centric studying with the
> book and some practice exams would do you good. For most exams I recommend
> the Microsoft Press Self-Paced Training Kits which consist of a pretty good
> book and some very good exam simulation software (Readiness Review Suite)
> could get you ready in no time and for less money. For the MCSA on Windos
> 2003 I will throw in one more book that was indispensible to my passing the
> upgrade exam: It is the All-In-One MCSA Windows Server 2003 Certification
> Eam Guide by Stephen Giles, Damir Bersenic, and Rob Scrimger. It is
> published by McGraw Hii/Osborne, and can be purchased on-line at:
>
> http://books.mcgraw-hill.com/getbook...5424&template=
>
> From what I can tell for your MCSA on Windows 2003 you need to pass three
> exams:
>
> 70-270: Installing, Configuring, and Administering Microsoft Winodws XP
> Professional (can be substituted with 70-210, Windows 2000 Professional)
>
> 70-290: Managing and Maintaining a Microsoft Windows Server 2003 Environment
>
> and
>
> 70-291: Implementing, Managing, and Maintaining a Microsoft Winodws Server
> 2003 Network Infrastructure
>
> The best place to confirm what you need is the Certification Planner on the
> MCP Secure Site - once you have passed one exam you have access. The link is:
>
> https://mcp.microsoft.com/mcp/tools/...nProgress.aspx
>
> Good luck and let us know how you do... and thanks for the kind words about
> my blog :)
>
> M
>
>
>
> --
> MDG, MCT
> MCSA (2003), MCSA (2000), MCDST.
> Certified Small Business Specialist
> Visit my blog at http://www.mitpro.ca/Blogs/tabid/59/...2/Default.aspx
>
>
> "Holo20" wrote:
>
> > Montreal, thanks for the reply.
> >
> > I've replaced my last Server2000 instal with Server2003, in June. I now have
> > 4 2k3 boxes on a network supporting about 60 users, plus Exchange. When I
> > first took the Microsoft tests, one of the reasons I did not continue the
> > rest was because at the time, I had only about 4 weeks hands-on experience
> > with Win2k, and so a lot of the material was hard to grasp. I now have
> > several years of hard-core, 'do or die' experience on both Win2k and 2k3.
> >
> > With that in mind, do you have some recommendation for study material? Would
> > the actual Microsoft curriculum be the best choice? Also, where would I go to
> > determine what tests I need at this point for the 2k3 MCSA?
> >
> > Thanks again for your time and assistance,
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > ps - good blog.
> >
> > "Montreal MCT" wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Michael,
> > >
> > > Firstly congratulations on making the decision to go ahead with your
> > > certifications. You will find that certifications will make you more
> > > valuable to your employer, and will truly learn how to be a better systems
> > > administrator!
> > >
> > > Microsoft has made no announcement to discontinue testing for Windows 2000
> > > that I know of. Normally the exams will be available as long as the software
> > > is supported - so you should have at least until the end of 2007 before they
> > > are stopped. That being said, if you want to maximize your potential you
> > > should consider investing in the books for the MCSA on Windows 2003. The
> > > technology is similar enough that you will still be able to administer your
> > > Windows 2000 servers, but different enought that you will be familiar with
> > > the changes between the two.
> > >
> > > The question about your 2000 exam will depend on which exam it was. I
> > > believe the only MCSA 2000 exam that qualifies equally for the MCSA 2003 is
> > > 070-210: Installing, Configuring, and Administering Microsoft Windows 2000
> > > Professional. Any of the others will not carry over.
> > >
> > > Good luck, and let us know how it goes!
> > >
> > > M
> > > --
> > > MDG, MCT
> > > MCSA (2003), MCSA (2000), MCDST.
> > > Certified Small Business Specialist
> > > Visit my blog at http://www.mitpro.ca/Blogs/tabid/59/...2/Default.aspx
> > >
> > >
> > > "Holo20" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Greetings,
> > > >
> > > > Several years ago I was interested in getting the MCSA cert, so I went out
> > > > and passed A+, Net+, and one of the tests in the Windows 2000 MCSA track
> > > > (can't remember which one, I'll dig it out here shortly...).
> > > >
> > > > Now, I want to finish and get the cert, as my employer has not only agreed
> > > > to some paid study time, but also will pay for the tests.
> > > >
> > > > My problem is that I don't have a clue where to go from here. Are they still
> > > > testing in Win2000, and if so, how much longer can I test in that OS? If not,
> > > > can my one existing test be applied to the new OS track?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for any advice,
> > > >
> > > > Michael



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