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Ramon 01-03-2009 11:40 AM

HTML Query
 
Hi,

Does someone here knows if there exists a tag that can fold/hide text...
and when the user clicks it, the text will become visible.

Thanks

Neredbojias 01-03-2009 11:48 AM

Re: HTML Query
 
On 03 Jan 2009, Ramon <ramif.47.invalid@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Does someone here knows if there exists a tag that can fold/hide
> text... and when the user clicks it, the text will become visible.
>
> Thanks


How would the user be able to click it when it's invisible?

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Els 01-03-2009 11:55 AM

Re: HTML Query
 
Neredbojias wrote:
> On 03 Jan 2009, Ramon <ramif.47.invalid@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Does someone here knows if there exists a tag that can fold/hide
>> text... and when the user clicks it, the text will become visible.

>
> How would the user be able to click it when it's invisible?


nitpick! ;-)

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Ramon 01-03-2009 12:47 PM

Re: HTML Query
 
Neredbojias wrote:
> On 03 Jan 2009, Ramon <ramif.47.invalid@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Does someone here knows if there exists a tag that can fold/hide
>> text... and when the user clicks it, the text will become visible.
>>
>> Thanks

>
> How would the user be able to click it when it's invisible?
>

What I meant is that you have something like this:
[+] Click here to see more information.

When the user clicks on the [+], he/she will see something like this:
[+] Click here to see more information.
Some text here that the user could not see
before -- thus invisible :)
Other text here ...

Is is possible in HTML?

Jukka K. Korpela 01-03-2009 01:43 PM

Re: HTML Query
 
Ramon wrote:

>>> Does someone here knows if there exists a tag that can fold/hide
>>> text... and when the user clicks it, the text will become visible.
>>>
>>> Thanks

>>
>> How would the user be able to click it when it's invisible?


The answer to that question is obviously "by accident", though some people
may include the possibility of "by miracle".

> What I meant is that you have something like this:
> [+] Click here to see more information.
>
> When the user clicks on the [+], he/she will see something like this:
> [+] Click here to see more information.
> Some text here that the user could not see
> before -- thus invisible :)
> Other text here ...


It's generally useful to ask what you really want, instead of something
quite different. It is also a good idea to write a Subject line that gives
at least a subtle hint of a clue of an allusion to what the content is
about.

It's generally useful to present your content to users without hiding it in
elaborate ways that generally exhibit poor accessibility, poor usability,
and poor style. "Click here" is virtually always bad style.

> Is is possible in HTML?


No. You need to study an introduction to the basics of HTML if you had the
idea that it could be. HTML is poor lonesome data format, not a programming
language or even a style language.

Well of course it _is_ possible in the sense that "[+]" could be a link
pointing to a page that differs from the current one only so that there is
the additional content there (and the content after it is pushed downwards
of course). But that's hardly what you meant.

What people normally use to do things like you describe is a combination of
JavaScript and CSS; naturally there needs to be some marked-up data (i.e.,
HTML stuff) for them to play with. And sometimes people use just CSS
(playing on HTML of course), though then the user just mouses over instead
of clicking. It can be fun, to an author, but it's normally not useful.

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Ramon 01-03-2009 02:19 PM

Re: HTML Query
 
Jukka K. Korpela wrote:
> Ramon wrote:
>
>>>> Does someone here knows if there exists a tag that can fold/hide
>>>> text... and when the user clicks it, the text will become visible.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> How would the user be able to click it when it's invisible?

>
> The answer to that question is obviously "by accident", though some
> people may include the possibility of "by miracle".
>
>> What I meant is that you have something like this:
>> [+] Click here to see more information.
>>
>> When the user clicks on the [+], he/she will see something like this:
>> [+] Click here to see more information.
>> Some text here that the user could not see
>> before -- thus invisible :)
>> Other text here ...

>
> It's generally useful to ask what you really want, instead of something
> quite different. It is also a good idea to write a Subject line that
> gives at least a subtle hint of a clue of an allusion to what the
> content is about.
>
> It's generally useful to present your content to users without hiding it
> in elaborate ways that generally exhibit poor accessibility, poor
> usability, and poor style. "Click here" is virtually always bad style.
>
>> Is is possible in HTML?

>
> No. You need to study an introduction to the basics of HTML if you had
> the idea that it could be. HTML is poor lonesome data format, not a
> programming language or even a style language.
>
> Well of course it _is_ possible in the sense that "[+]" could be a link
> pointing to a page that differs from the current one only so that there
> is the additional content there (and the content after it is pushed
> downwards of course). But that's hardly what you meant.
>
> What people normally use to do things like you describe is a combination
> of JavaScript and CSS; naturally there needs to be some marked-up data
> (i.e., HTML stuff) for them to play with. And sometimes people use just
> CSS (playing on HTML of course), though then the user just mouses over
> instead of clicking. It can be fun, to an author, but it's normally not
> useful.
>


Thanks.

Bergamot 01-03-2009 05:20 PM

Re: HTML Query
 

Ed Mullen wrote:
> Ramon wrote:
>>
>> Does someone here knows if there exists a tag that can fold/hide
>> text... and when the user clicks it, the text will become visible.

>
> http://markehansen.07x.net/FAQ.htm


if(document.layers)...

icky-poo!

--
Berg

Jonathan N. Little 01-03-2009 06:15 PM

Re: HTML Query
 
Bergamot wrote:
>
> Ed Mullen wrote:
>> Ramon wrote:
>>>
>>> Does someone here knows if there exists a tag that can fold/hide
>>> text... and when the user clicks it, the text will become visible.

>>
>> http://markehansen.07x.net/FAQ.htm

>
> if(document.layers)...
>
> icky-poo!
>

Not sue how many Netscape 4.x users are still out their, but at least
they are using *object* detection of stupid user agent sniffing...I am
getting awful tired if PayPal's warning dialogs in their tools that my
browser is not supported "IE 5.5+ FF 1.0+ Safari 1.2+" while using
SeaMonkey 1.1.14

--
Take care,

Jonathan
-------------------
LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

Jonathan N. Little 01-03-2009 06:25 PM

Re: HTML Query - addendum
 
Jonathan N. Little wrote:
> Bergamot wrote:
>>


>> if(document.layers)...
>>
>> icky-poo!
>>

> Not sue how many Netscape 4.x users are still out their, but at least


*sure*

> they are using *object* detection of stupid user agent sniffing...


The site's real error is that they have the text hidden by default in
the styling. It should be displayed and the via JavaScript upon loading
set to hide so that if the user has JavaScript disabled the content is
visible.

The Rule is JavaScript is option and the page should be usable without it.

--
Take care,

Jonathan
-------------------
LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

Ramon 01-03-2009 07:55 PM

Re: HTML Query
 
Thanks Ed for your tips. It worked great!

Ed Mullen wrote:
> Ramon wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Does someone here knows if there exists a tag that can fold/hide
>> text... and when the user clicks it, the text will become visible.
>>
>> Thanks

>
> You need javascript but there are lots of existing examples:
>
> http://markehansen.07x.net/FAQ.htm
>
> http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/toggle_elements.asp
>
> Google text toggle for more.
>
>



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