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Gary J. DIkkema 05-20-2008 10:01 PM

Is Vista x64 supported as a hyper-v guest yet?
 
Thought I saw some new software drops the past week; perhaps it was only for
allowing Vista X64 to manage Hyper-V.

Anyone?

Thanks!



Charlie Russel - MVP 05-20-2008 11:12 PM

Re: Is Vista x64 supported as a hyper-v guest yet?
 
No, it isn't a supported guest yet. (It works, just no Integration
Components, so you need to choose a Legacy NIC.)

It does work as a management machine.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel


"Gary J. DIkkema" <gary_d-NO-SPAM-@cdir.ca> wrote in message
news:ey13zTsuIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Thought I saw some new software drops the past week; perhaps it was only
> for allowing Vista X64 to manage Hyper-V.
>
> Anyone?
>
> Thanks!
>
>



Gary J. DIkkema 05-20-2008 11:43 PM

Re: Is Vista x64 supported as a hyper-v guest yet?
 
Thanks Charlie... done that! However without integration, the box is SLOW as
molasses. Unlike the supported x86 box which is fleet and nimble...

Thanks.


"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
news:B2831D6A-B4F7-488F-A9FF-F974E90EB9E6@microsoft.com...
> No, it isn't a supported guest yet. (It works, just no Integration
> Components, so you need to choose a Legacy NIC.)
>
> It does work as a management machine.
>
> --
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>
>
> "Gary J. DIkkema" <gary_d-NO-SPAM-@cdir.ca> wrote in message
> news:ey13zTsuIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Thought I saw some new software drops the past week; perhaps it was only
>> for allowing Vista X64 to manage Hyper-V.
>>
>> Anyone?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>

>




Charlie Russel - MVP 05-20-2008 11:52 PM

Re: Is Vista x64 supported as a hyper-v guest yet?
 
I didn't find it all that bad. Throw an extra proc at it, and give it some
more RAM. Not sure what you had it set for, but on my VM with 2 procs and 2
GB of RAM, it runs decent. I admit, I'm not using it for any sort of
production work, it's just a test box, so I really wouldn't notice if it is
a bit slow.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel


"Gary J. DIkkema" <gary_d-NO-SPAM-@cdir.ca> wrote in message
news:%23HQyBNtuIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Thanks Charlie... done that! However without integration, the box is SLOW
> as molasses. Unlike the supported x86 box which is fleet and nimble...
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
> news:B2831D6A-B4F7-488F-A9FF-F974E90EB9E6@microsoft.com...
>> No, it isn't a supported guest yet. (It works, just no Integration
>> Components, so you need to choose a Legacy NIC.)
>>
>> It does work as a management machine.
>>
>> --
>> Charlie.
>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>>
>>
>> "Gary J. DIkkema" <gary_d-NO-SPAM-@cdir.ca> wrote in message
>> news:ey13zTsuIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Thought I saw some new software drops the past week; perhaps it was only
>>> for allowing Vista X64 to manage Hyper-V.
>>>
>>> Anyone?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>

>>

>
>



Gary J. DIkkema 05-21-2008 12:01 AM

Re: Is Vista x64 supported as a hyper-v guest yet?
 
Had it with 1 Gig and 1 proc Charlie...

The test bed has 8 GB of ram so I could try it with double.

Thanks!


"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
news:OxLWXStuIHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>I didn't find it all that bad. Throw an extra proc at it, and give it some
>more RAM. Not sure what you had it set for, but on my VM with 2 procs and 2
>GB of RAM, it runs decent. I admit, I'm not using it for any sort of
>production work, it's just a test box, so I really wouldn't notice if it is
>a bit slow.
>
> --
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>
>
> "Gary J. DIkkema" <gary_d-NO-SPAM-@cdir.ca> wrote in message
> news:%23HQyBNtuIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Thanks Charlie... done that! However without integration, the box is SLOW
>> as molasses. Unlike the supported x86 box which is fleet and nimble...
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
>> news:B2831D6A-B4F7-488F-A9FF-F974E90EB9E6@microsoft.com...
>>> No, it isn't a supported guest yet. (It works, just no Integration
>>> Components, so you need to choose a Legacy NIC.)
>>>
>>> It does work as a management machine.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Charlie.
>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>>>
>>>
>>> "Gary J. DIkkema" <gary_d-NO-SPAM-@cdir.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:ey13zTsuIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> Thought I saw some new software drops the past week; perhaps it was
>>>> only for allowing Vista X64 to manage Hyper-V.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>




Gary J. DIkkema 05-21-2008 12:13 AM

Re: Is Vista x64 supported as a hyper-v guest yet?
 
Charlie,

Had planned to run Core but couldn't find the nice stuff, like how to set up
the virtual guests... in the end I figured WTF, I'm a Windows kind of guy.
After a day of this I thought I needed a life... without the stress. <VBG>

If however, you happen to stroll across some info that I could use, please
do pass it along.

Thanks again!


"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
news:OxLWXStuIHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>I didn't find it all that bad. Throw an extra proc at it, and give it some
>more RAM. Not sure what you had it set for, but on my VM with 2 procs and 2
>GB of RAM, it runs decent. I admit, I'm not using it for any sort of
>production work, it's just a test box, so I really wouldn't notice if it is
>a bit slow.
>
> --
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>
>
> "Gary J. DIkkema" <gary_d-NO-SPAM-@cdir.ca> wrote in message
> news:%23HQyBNtuIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Thanks Charlie... done that! However without integration, the box is SLOW
>> as molasses. Unlike the supported x86 box which is fleet and nimble...
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
>> news:B2831D6A-B4F7-488F-A9FF-F974E90EB9E6@microsoft.com...
>>> No, it isn't a supported guest yet. (It works, just no Integration
>>> Components, so you need to choose a Legacy NIC.)
>>>
>>> It does work as a management machine.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Charlie.
>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>>>
>>>
>>> "Gary J. DIkkema" <gary_d-NO-SPAM-@cdir.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:ey13zTsuIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> Thought I saw some new software drops the past week; perhaps it was
>>>> only for allowing Vista X64 to manage Hyper-V.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>




Charlie Russel - MVP 05-21-2008 01:18 PM

Re: Is Vista x64 supported as a hyper-v guest yet?
 
I have a whole series of scripts that set up a Core machine. They're
included in my Server 2008 Administrator's Companion book, from MS Press.
They do the full setup of a core machine to be a remote office RODC with
DNS, DHCP, etc, and set up remote administration. With comments so you can
see what you need and what you don't.

All configuration of Hyper-V itself, on Core, is done from the remote
Hyper-V Manager running on another machine. (I run it from Vista 64 on my
main workstation. )

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel


"Gary J. DIkkema" <gary_d-NO-SPAM-@cdir.ca> wrote in message
news:uq0nudtuIHA.6096@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Charlie,
>
> Had planned to run Core but couldn't find the nice stuff, like how to set
> up the virtual guests... in the end I figured WTF, I'm a Windows kind of
> guy. After a day of this I thought I needed a life... without the stress.
> <VBG>
>
> If however, you happen to stroll across some info that I could use, please
> do pass it along.
>
> Thanks again!
>
>
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
> news:OxLWXStuIHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>I didn't find it all that bad. Throw an extra proc at it, and give it some
>>more RAM. Not sure what you had it set for, but on my VM with 2 procs and
>>2 GB of RAM, it runs decent. I admit, I'm not using it for any sort of
>>production work, it's just a test box, so I really wouldn't notice if it
>>is a bit slow.
>>
>> --
>> Charlie.
>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>>
>>
>> "Gary J. DIkkema" <gary_d-NO-SPAM-@cdir.ca> wrote in message
>> news:%23HQyBNtuIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Thanks Charlie... done that! However without integration, the box is
>>> SLOW as molasses. Unlike the supported x86 box which is fleet and
>>> nimble...
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in
>>> message news:B2831D6A-B4F7-488F-A9FF-F974E90EB9E6@microsoft.com...
>>>> No, it isn't a supported guest yet. (It works, just no Integration
>>>> Components, so you need to choose a Legacy NIC.)
>>>>
>>>> It does work as a management machine.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Charlie.
>>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Gary J. DIkkema" <gary_d-NO-SPAM-@cdir.ca> wrote in message
>>>> news:ey13zTsuIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Thought I saw some new software drops the past week; perhaps it was
>>>>> only for allowing Vista X64 to manage Hyper-V.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>

>
>



Charlie Russel - MVP 05-21-2008 01:20 PM

Re: Is Vista x64 supported as a hyper-v guest yet?
 
1 GB is starving for a Vista machine, and on a VM where it's running without
ICs, it's going to be pretty slow.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel


"Gary J. DIkkema" <gary_d-NO-SPAM-@cdir.ca> wrote in message
news:ev9lAXtuIHA.548@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Had it with 1 Gig and 1 proc Charlie...
>
> The test bed has 8 GB of ram so I could try it with double.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
> news:OxLWXStuIHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>I didn't find it all that bad. Throw an extra proc at it, and give it some
>>more RAM. Not sure what you had it set for, but on my VM with 2 procs and
>>2 GB of RAM, it runs decent. I admit, I'm not using it for any sort of
>>production work, it's just a test box, so I really wouldn't notice if it
>>is a bit slow.
>>
>> --
>> Charlie.
>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>>
>>
>> "Gary J. DIkkema" <gary_d-NO-SPAM-@cdir.ca> wrote in message
>> news:%23HQyBNtuIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Thanks Charlie... done that! However without integration, the box is
>>> SLOW as molasses. Unlike the supported x86 box which is fleet and
>>> nimble...
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in
>>> message news:B2831D6A-B4F7-488F-A9FF-F974E90EB9E6@microsoft.com...
>>>> No, it isn't a supported guest yet. (It works, just no Integration
>>>> Components, so you need to choose a Legacy NIC.)
>>>>
>>>> It does work as a management machine.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Charlie.
>>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Gary J. DIkkema" <gary_d-NO-SPAM-@cdir.ca> wrote in message
>>>> news:ey13zTsuIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Thought I saw some new software drops the past week; perhaps it was
>>>>> only for allowing Vista X64 to manage Hyper-V.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>

>
>



Gary J. DIkkema 05-21-2008 09:19 PM

Re: Is Vista x64 supported as a hyper-v guest yet?
 
Looks like I need another of your fine books. <VBG> Can I get mine
autographed?

Amazon.ca here I come...

Regards!


"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
news:EBC2E2DA-7068-4E1E-AB25-771EBE9503E6@microsoft.com...
>I have a whole series of scripts that set up a Core machine. They're
>included in my Server 2008 Administrator's Companion book, from MS Press.
>They do the full setup of a core machine to be a remote office RODC with
>DNS, DHCP, etc, and set up remote administration. With comments so you can
>see what you need and what you don't.
>
> All configuration of Hyper-V itself, on Core, is done from the remote
> Hyper-V Manager running on another machine. (I run it from Vista 64 on my
> main workstation. )
>
> --
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>
>
> "Gary J. DIkkema" <gary_d-NO-SPAM-@cdir.ca> wrote in message
> news:uq0nudtuIHA.6096@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Charlie,
>>
>> Had planned to run Core but couldn't find the nice stuff, like how to set
>> up the virtual guests... in the end I figured WTF, I'm a Windows kind of
>> guy. After a day of this I thought I needed a life... without the stress.
>> <VBG>
>>
>> If however, you happen to stroll across some info that I could use,
>> please do pass it along.
>>
>> Thanks again!
>>
>>
>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
>> news:OxLWXStuIHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>I didn't find it all that bad. Throw an extra proc at it, and give it
>>>some more RAM. Not sure what you had it set for, but on my VM with 2
>>>procs and 2 GB of RAM, it runs decent. I admit, I'm not using it for any
>>>sort of production work, it's just a test box, so I really wouldn't
>>>notice if it is a bit slow.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Charlie.
>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>>>
>>>
>>> "Gary J. DIkkema" <gary_d-NO-SPAM-@cdir.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:%23HQyBNtuIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> Thanks Charlie... done that! However without integration, the box is
>>>> SLOW as molasses. Unlike the supported x86 box which is fleet and
>>>> nimble...
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in
>>>> message news:B2831D6A-B4F7-488F-A9FF-F974E90EB9E6@microsoft.com...
>>>>> No, it isn't a supported guest yet. (It works, just no Integration
>>>>> Components, so you need to choose a Legacy NIC.)
>>>>>
>>>>> It does work as a management machine.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Charlie.
>>>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
>>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Gary J. DIkkema" <gary_d-NO-SPAM-@cdir.ca> wrote in message
>>>>> news:ey13zTsuIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Thought I saw some new software drops the past week; perhaps it was
>>>>>> only for allowing Vista X64 to manage Hyper-V.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>




Gary J. DIkkema 05-21-2008 09:26 PM

Re: Is Vista x64 supported as a hyper-v guest yet?
 
So for comparison...

I have x64 and x86 Vista boxes running under Hyper-V...

x86 footprint ~ 350 K, x64 is double

x86 has IC and is quick and nimble even with 1 GB memory and 1 processor.
x64 has no IC and is slow with 2 GB of memory and TWO processors...

What does that tell you?

Where the heck is Microsoft's support for x64?

Regards.



"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
news:0BA48113-07AE-4491-8873-662BCBAAFE48@microsoft.com...
>1 GB is starving for a Vista machine, and on a VM where it's running
>without ICs, it's going to be pretty slow.
>
> --
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>
>
> "Gary J. DIkkema" <gary_d-NO-SPAM-@cdir.ca> wrote in message
> news:ev9lAXtuIHA.548@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Had it with 1 Gig and 1 proc Charlie...
>>
>> The test bed has 8 GB of ram so I could try it with double.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
>> news:OxLWXStuIHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>I didn't find it all that bad. Throw an extra proc at it, and give it
>>>some more RAM. Not sure what you had it set for, but on my VM with 2
>>>procs and 2 GB of RAM, it runs decent. I admit, I'm not using it for any
>>>sort of production work, it's just a test box, so I really wouldn't
>>>notice if it is a bit slow.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Charlie.
>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>>>
>>>
>>> "Gary J. DIkkema" <gary_d-NO-SPAM-@cdir.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:%23HQyBNtuIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> Thanks Charlie... done that! However without integration, the box is
>>>> SLOW as molasses. Unlike the supported x86 box which is fleet and
>>>> nimble...
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in
>>>> message news:B2831D6A-B4F7-488F-A9FF-F974E90EB9E6@microsoft.com...
>>>>> No, it isn't a supported guest yet. (It works, just no Integration
>>>>> Components, so you need to choose a Legacy NIC.)
>>>>>
>>>>> It does work as a management machine.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Charlie.
>>>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
>>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Gary J. DIkkema" <gary_d-NO-SPAM-@cdir.ca> wrote in message
>>>>> news:ey13zTsuIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Thought I saw some new software drops the past week; perhaps it was
>>>>>> only for allowing Vista X64 to manage Hyper-V.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>





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