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History OF Power Supply
Can someone pleeeaassse tell me if there ever was a BAT PSU I dont
know what the hell that is i only know that there was ATX PSU |
Re: History OF Power Supply
chronicboy11@hotmail.com wrote:
> Can someone pleeeaassse tell me if there ever was a BAT PSU I dont > know what the hell that is > i only know that there was ATX PSU Modern power supplies are switch-mode, in which case you might want to look into that area. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switched-mode_power_supply http://www.steve-w.dircon.co.uk/flea...il/history.htm Maybe instead of "BAT PSU", you mean "AT PSU", as AT was the PC standard before ATX ? An AT power supply doesn't have "soft off" capability, and the power is split into two connectors (P8, P9). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_power_supply Otherwise, provide some context as to where we'd find this "BAT" thing. Paul |
Re: History OF Power Supply
On Jan 23, 4:45*pm, Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote:
> chronicbo...@hotmail.com wrote: > > Can someone pleeeaassse tell me if there ever was a BAT PSU I dont > > know what the hell that is > > i only know that there was ATX PSU > > Modern power supplies are switch-mode, in which case you might want > to look into that area. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switche...il/history.htm > > Maybe instead of "BAT PSU", you mean "AT PSU", as AT was > the PC standard before ATX ? An AT power supply doesn't have > "soft off" capability, and the power is split into two > connectors (P8, P9). > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_power_supply > > Otherwise, provide some context as to where we'd find this > "BAT" thing. > > * * Paul I've seen on some webpages that BAT stands for Baby At. Someway i'm beginning to think is smaller than the AT formfactor. or something like that But I'm looking for a power supply for that motherboard formfactor |
Re: History OF Power Supply
<chronicboy11@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1c719ee4-1479-4a4c-b416-265c74b08386@l1g2000hsa.googlegroups.com... On Jan 23, 4:45 pm, Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote: > chronicbo...@hotmail.com wrote: > > Can someone pleeeaassse tell me if there ever was a BAT PSU I dont > > know what the hell that is > > i only know that there was ATX PSU > > Modern power supplies are switch-mode, in which case you might want > to look into that area. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switche...il/history.htm > > Maybe instead of "BAT PSU", you mean "AT PSU", as AT was > the PC standard before ATX ? An AT power supply doesn't have > "soft off" capability, and the power is split into two > connectors (P8, P9). > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_power_supply > > Otherwise, provide some context as to where we'd find this > "BAT" thing. > > Paul I've seen on some webpages that BAT stands for Baby At. Someway i'm beginning to think is smaller than the AT formfactor. or something like that But I'm looking for a power supply for that motherboard formfactor Just pull your power supply and go to a computer store and buy another one just like it. The form-factor defines the type of system it can be used in. You may find your power supply at Best Buy, but I think I would be visiting the computer repair guy down on the corner, or take a trip to Fry's if there is one within 30-ish miles. |
Re: History OF Power Supply
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message news:g07mj.792$hM4.163@trnddc07... > > <chronicboy11@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:1c719ee4-1479-4a4c-b416-265c74b08386@l1g2000hsa.googlegroups.com... > On Jan 23, 4:45 pm, Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote: >> chronicbo...@hotmail.com wrote: >> > Can someone pleeeaassse tell me if there ever was >> > a BAT PSU I dont >> > know what the hell that is >> > i only know that there was ATX PSU >> >> Modern power supplies are switch-mode, in which >> case you might want >> to look into that area. >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switche...il/history.htm >> >> Maybe instead of "BAT PSU", you mean "AT PSU", as >> AT was >> the PC standard before ATX ? An AT power supply >> doesn't have >> "soft off" capability, and the power is split into >> two >> connectors (P8, P9). >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_power_supply >> >> Otherwise, provide some context as to where we'd >> find this >> "BAT" thing. >> >> Paul > > I've seen on some webpages that BAT stands for Baby > At. > Someway i'm beginning to think is smaller than the > AT formfactor. or > something like that > But I'm looking for a power supply for that > motherboard formfactor > > > > > > Just pull your power supply and go to a computer > store and buy another one just like it. The > form-factor defines the type of system it can be > used in. You may find your power supply at Best Buy, > but I think I would be visiting the computer repair > guy down on the corner, or take a trip to Fry's if > there is one within 30-ish miles. Some of the proprietary PC's have PSU's not generally available at the local computer store, and maybe it's one of these the OP is referring to, and they are generally smaller than standard. Some of the HP's and Dells for instance, which encourages people to source parts from licensed resellers at exhorbitant prices. These PSU's can generally be sourced as generics but not easily, so most users pay double or even triple the price of a standard PSU when replacing them. A good argument for buying a non branded PC. |
Re: History OF Power Supply
<chronicboy11@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:be7d7795-dc2c-4720-8fa9-f60dbacbee84@p69g2000hsa.googlegroups.com... > Can someone pleeeaassse tell me if there ever was a > BAT PSU I dont > know what the hell that is > i only know that there was ATX PSU It's possible that this refers to a baby AT power supply, although these are now pretty much obsolete. What is the make and model of the PC? |
Re: History OF Power Supply
Jeff Strickland wrote:
> > <chronicboy11@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:1c719ee4-1479-4a4c-b416-265c74b08386@l1g2000hsa.googlegroups.com... > On Jan 23, 4:45 pm, Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote: >> chronicbo...@hotmail.com wrote: >> > Can someone pleeeaassse tell me if there ever was a BAT PSU I dont >> > know what the hell that is >> > i only know that there was ATX PSU >> >> Modern power supplies are switch-mode, in which case you might want >> to look into that area. >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switche...il/history.htm >> >> >> Maybe instead of "BAT PSU", you mean "AT PSU", as AT was >> the PC standard before ATX ? An AT power supply doesn't have >> "soft off" capability, and the power is split into two >> connectors (P8, P9). >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_power_supply >> >> Otherwise, provide some context as to where we'd find this >> "BAT" thing. >> >> Paul > > I've seen on some webpages that BAT stands for Baby At. > Someway i'm beginning to think is smaller than the AT formfactor. or > something like that > But I'm looking for a power supply for that motherboard formfactor > > Just pull your power supply and go to a computer store and buy another > one just like it. The form-factor defines the type of system it can be > used in. You may find your power supply at Best Buy, but I think I would > be visiting the computer repair guy down on the corner, or take a trip > to Fry's if there is one within 30-ish miles. > This page claims AT and baby AT have the same P8 and P9 wiring. http://www.informit.com/articles/art...30273&seqNum=4 P8 and P9 are two six pin connectors. http://www.informit.com/content/imag...ks/03fig06.jpg I see a baby AT for sale here, and they say the dimensions are 5.5" x 5.9" x 3.4". ATX is 150 x 140 x 80mm (5.9" x 5.5" x 3.15"). I expect screw holes and other mechanical details would cause issues as well. ATX connectors are different than AT. (One other web page mentioned there are a couple form factors for AT supplies, and one of those AT types has quite large dimensions. Measuring the dimensions of the original supply would be a good place to start, and comparing the power rating is also important. This supply even has a minimum load spec, which means it doesn't regulate well if less than the minimum current is drawn. http://www.cybertronpc.com/Itemdesc~...~PCc~POWER.htm http://www.nextag.com/Antec-300W-BAT...31/prices-html http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=23004 +5V @ 30A, -5V @ 1A, +12V @ 10A, -12V @ 1A I also haven't figured out how you turn it on and off :-) I guess it is just before my time. Paul |
Re: History OF Power Supply
"Neil Green" <nrgreenNOT@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message news:47990b60$0$26179$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u... > > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message > news:g07mj.792$hM4.163@trnddc07... >> >> <chronicboy11@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:1c719ee4-1479-4a4c-b416-265c74b08386@l1g2000hsa.googlegroups.com... >> On Jan 23, 4:45 pm, Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote: >>> chronicbo...@hotmail.com wrote: >>> > Can someone pleeeaassse tell me if there ever was a BAT PSU I dont >>> > know what the hell that is >>> > i only know that there was ATX PSU >>> >>> Modern power supplies are switch-mode, in which case you might want >>> to look into that area. >>> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switche...il/history.htm >>> >>> Maybe instead of "BAT PSU", you mean "AT PSU", as AT was >>> the PC standard before ATX ? An AT power supply doesn't have >>> "soft off" capability, and the power is split into two >>> connectors (P8, P9). >>> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_power_supply >>> >>> Otherwise, provide some context as to where we'd find this >>> "BAT" thing. >>> >>> Paul >> >> I've seen on some webpages that BAT stands for Baby At. >> Someway i'm beginning to think is smaller than the AT formfactor. or >> something like that >> But I'm looking for a power supply for that motherboard formfactor >> >> >> >> >> >> Just pull your power supply and go to a computer store and buy another >> one just like it. The form-factor defines the type of system it can be >> used in. You may find your power supply at Best Buy, but I think I would >> be visiting the computer repair guy down on the corner, or take a trip to >> Fry's if there is one within 30-ish miles. > > Some of the proprietary PC's have PSU's not generally available at the > local computer store, and maybe it's one of these the OP is referring to, > and they are generally smaller than standard. > Some of the HP's and Dells for instance, which encourages people to source > parts from licensed resellers at exhorbitant prices. > These PSU's can generally be sourced as generics but not easily, so most > users pay double or even triple the price of a standard PSU when replacing > them. > A good argument for buying a non branded PC. > > I hear what you are saying, but I've replaced 3 or 4 power supplies in HP and E-machine machines, and I easily sourced them from the repair guy that has an office in the strip mall down the street. Having said that, if the power supply can not be sourced locally, then perhaps the machine has outlived its usefullness, and a shiney new Vista-based product is in the future of the OP ... |
Re: History OF Power Supply
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message news:si9mj.7733$A75.2722@trnddc05... > > "Neil Green" <nrgreenNOT@optusnet.com.au> wrote in > message > news:47990b60$0$26179$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u... >> >> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in >> message news:g07mj.792$hM4.163@trnddc07... >>> >>> <chronicboy11@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:1c719ee4-1479-4a4c-b416-265c74b08386@l1g2000hsa.googlegroups.com... >>> On Jan 23, 4:45 pm, Paul <nos...@needed.com> >>> wrote: >>>> chronicbo...@hotmail.com wrote: >>>> > Can someone pleeeaassse tell me if there ever >>>> > was a BAT PSU I dont >>>> > know what the hell that is >>>> > i only know that there was ATX PSU >>>> >>>> Modern power supplies are switch-mode, in which >>>> case you might want >>>> to look into that area. >>>> >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switche...il/history.htm >>>> >>>> Maybe instead of "BAT PSU", you mean "AT PSU", as >>>> AT was >>>> the PC standard before ATX ? An AT power supply >>>> doesn't have >>>> "soft off" capability, and the power is split >>>> into two >>>> connectors (P8, P9). >>>> >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_power_supply >>>> >>>> Otherwise, provide some context as to where we'd >>>> find this >>>> "BAT" thing. >>>> >>>> Paul >>> >>> I've seen on some webpages that BAT stands for >>> Baby At. >>> Someway i'm beginning to think is smaller than the >>> AT formfactor. or >>> something like that >>> But I'm looking for a power supply for that >>> motherboard formfactor >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Just pull your power supply and go to a computer >>> store and buy another one just like it. The >>> form-factor defines the type of system it can be >>> used in. You may find your power supply at Best >>> Buy, but I think I would be visiting the computer >>> repair guy down on the corner, or take a trip to >>> Fry's if there is one within 30-ish miles. >> >> Some of the proprietary PC's have PSU's not >> generally available at the local computer store, >> and maybe it's one of these the OP is referring to, >> and they are generally smaller than standard. >> Some of the HP's and Dells for instance, which >> encourages people to source parts from licensed >> resellers at exhorbitant prices. >> These PSU's can generally be sourced as generics >> but not easily, so most users pay double or even >> triple the price of a standard PSU when replacing >> them. >> A good argument for buying a non branded PC. >> >> > > I hear what you are saying, but I've replaced 3 or 4 > power supplies in HP and E-machine machines, and I > easily sourced them from the repair guy that has an > office in the strip mall down the street. > > Having said that, if the power supply can not be > sourced locally, then perhaps the machine has > outlived its usefullness, and a shiney new > Vista-based product is in the future of the OP ... Yes but if the PC is adequate for his needs then it could well still be viable. Some of the branded PC's have odd shaped PSU's designed specifically for a particular case, but these can still be sourced after market for a reasonable price, it depends where he or she is located. On another note, what is your opinion of Vista as opposed to XP? I've yet to migrate, and can't find a compelling reason, so I'd be interested to hear what you consider the advantages to be. |
Re: History OF Power Supply
"Paul" <nospam@needed.com> wrote in message news:fnb6fq$tpn$1@aioe.org... > Jeff Strickland wrote: >> >> <chronicboy11@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:1c719ee4-1479-4a4c-b416-265c74b08386@l1g2000hsa.googlegroups.com... >> On Jan 23, 4:45 pm, Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote: >>> chronicbo...@hotmail.com wrote: >>> > Can someone pleeeaassse tell me if there ever >>> > was a BAT PSU I dont >>> > know what the hell that is >>> > i only know that there was ATX PSU >>> >>> Modern power supplies are switch-mode, in which >>> case you might want >>> to look into that area. >>> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switche...il/history.htm >>> >>> Maybe instead of "BAT PSU", you mean "AT PSU", as >>> AT was >>> the PC standard before ATX ? An AT power supply >>> doesn't have >>> "soft off" capability, and the power is split into >>> two >>> connectors (P8, P9). >>> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_power_supply >>> >>> Otherwise, provide some context as to where we'd >>> find this >>> "BAT" thing. >>> >>> Paul >> >> I've seen on some webpages that BAT stands for Baby >> At. >> Someway i'm beginning to think is smaller than the >> AT formfactor. or >> something like that >> But I'm looking for a power supply for that >> motherboard formfactor >> >> Just pull your power supply and go to a computer >> store and buy another one just like it. The >> form-factor defines the type of system it can be >> used in. You may find your power supply at Best >> Buy, but I think I would be visiting the computer >> repair guy down on the corner, or take a trip to >> Fry's if there is one within 30-ish miles. >> > > This page claims AT and baby AT have the same P8 and > P9 wiring. > > http://www.informit.com/articles/art...30273&seqNum=4 > > P8 and P9 are two six pin connectors. > > http://www.informit.com/content/imag...ks/03fig06.jpg > > I see a baby AT for sale here, and they say the > dimensions are 5.5" x 5.9" x 3.4". > ATX is 150 x 140 x 80mm (5.9" x 5.5" x 3.15"). I > expect screw holes and other > mechanical details would cause issues as well. ATX > connectors are different > than AT. (One other web page mentioned there are a > couple form factors for > AT supplies, and one of those AT types has quite > large dimensions. Measuring > the dimensions of the original supply would be a > good place to start, and > comparing the power rating is also important. This > supply even has a minimum > load spec, which means it doesn't regulate well if > less than the minimum current > is drawn. > > http://www.cybertronpc.com/Itemdesc~...~PCc~POWER.htm > http://www.nextag.com/Antec-300W-BAT...31/prices-html > > http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=23004 > +5V @ 30A, -5V @ 1A, +12V @ 10A, -12V @ 1A > > I also haven't figured out how you turn it on and > off :-) > I guess it is just before my time. Switched on and off by the power switch on the case. Before Bill came up with start/turn off/ logoff/standby/go watch a movie/shutdown :-) Ah, for the days of DOS. > > Paul |
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