Velocity Reviews

Velocity Reviews (http://www.velocityreviews.com/forums/index.php)
-   NZ Computing (http://www.velocityreviews.com/forums/f47-nz-computing.html)
-   -   Film production goes digital (http://www.velocityreviews.com/forums/t581862-film-production-goes-digital.html)

Mark Robinson 08-24-2007 09:42 AM

Film production goes digital
 
"Late March 2007: three Americans attempt to leave the USA carrying two top
secret devices codenamed "Boris" and "Natasha". Customs apprehend one at the
border, but the others escape in a private jet to the South Pacific where an
eccentric millionaire with an arsenal of WWI weapons awaits their arrival,
eager to lay his hand on the "Mysterium" chip ...

Although this sounds like a James Bond plot, it's actually a pretty accurate
(if melodramatically phrased) description of the real events.

The imminent release of the RED ONE camera will herald, many believe, a new way
of making films and a new perception of the costs involved in filmmaking. In
March the RED Digital Cinema Camera Company flew two of the alpha prototype
cameras to Wellington, New Zealand, and Peter Jackson became the first
filmmaker to put the camera through it's paces; two weeks later the finished
film was shown to much acclaim at the NAB conference in Las Vegas. Yes, you
read that correctly: "Peter Jackson, "two weeks" and "finished film" all in one
sentence.

...."

http://www.onfilm.co.nz/editable/DigiFeature.pdf

Andrew Lambert 08-26-2007 10:43 PM

Re: Film production goes digital
 
Mark Robinson wrote:
> "Late March 2007: three Americans attempt to leave the USA carrying two
> top secret devices codenamed "Boris" and "Natasha". Customs apprehend
> one at the border, but the others escape in a private jet to the South
> Pacific where an eccentric millionaire with an arsenal of WWI weapons
> awaits their arrival, eager to lay his hand on the "Mysterium" chip ...
>
> Although this sounds like a James Bond plot, it's actually a pretty
> accurate (if melodramatically phrased) description of the real events.
>
> The imminent release of the RED ONE camera will herald, many believe, a
> new way of making films and a new perception of the costs involved in
> filmmaking. In March the RED Digital Cinema Camera Company flew two of
> the alpha prototype cameras to Wellington, New Zealand, and Peter
> Jackson became the first filmmaker to put the camera through it's paces;
> two weeks later the finished film was shown to much acclaim at the NAB
> conference in Las Vegas. Yes, you read that correctly: "Peter Jackson,
> "two weeks" and "finished film" all in one sentence.
>
> ..."
>
> http://www.onfilm.co.nz/editable/DigiFeature.pdf

This was brilliant, I got to see it on the big screen, wow, It was amazing
Can be seen here too:
http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1883

Mutlley 08-27-2007 12:59 AM

Re: Film production goes digital
 
Andrew Lambert <alambert@stuff.stuff> wrote:

>Mark Robinson wrote:
>> "Late March 2007: three Americans attempt to leave the USA carrying two
>> top secret devices codenamed "Boris" and "Natasha". Customs apprehend
>> one at the border, but the others escape in a private jet to the South
>> Pacific where an eccentric millionaire with an arsenal of WWI weapons
>> awaits their arrival, eager to lay his hand on the "Mysterium" chip ...
>>
>> Although this sounds like a James Bond plot, it's actually a pretty
>> accurate (if melodramatically phrased) description of the real events.
>>
>> The imminent release of the RED ONE camera will herald, many believe, a
>> new way of making films and a new perception of the costs involved in
>> filmmaking. In March the RED Digital Cinema Camera Company flew two of
>> the alpha prototype cameras to Wellington, New Zealand, and Peter
>> Jackson became the first filmmaker to put the camera through it's paces;
>> two weeks later the finished film was shown to much acclaim at the NAB
>> conference in Las Vegas. Yes, you read that correctly: "Peter Jackson,
>> "two weeks" and "finished film" all in one sentence.
>>
>> ..."
>>
>> http://www.onfilm.co.nz/editable/DigiFeature.pdf

>This was brilliant, I got to see it on the big screen, wow, It was amazing
>Can be seen here too:
>http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1883



Wonder how they are going to long term archive movies done this way??
back to film separations or in 30 years time it's all lost ..

I see that Startrek TOS has been release in Hidef DVD format. I
suspect only because it was filmed in 35mm not on video tape like
some of the latter series..

Lawrence D'Oliveiro 08-27-2007 03:44 AM

Re: Film production goes digital
 
In message <1c84d3p5es018jmtk5hbt7errdgqjp50mb@4ax.com>, Mutlley wrote:

> Wonder how they are going to long term archive movies done this way??
> back to film separations or in 30 years time it's all lost ..


Why should digital formats automatically make it hard to preserve long-term
archives? Is it the DRM issue you're thinking of?

Mutlley 08-27-2007 04:23 AM

Re: Film production goes digital
 
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> wrote:

>In message <1c84d3p5es018jmtk5hbt7errdgqjp50mb@4ax.com>, Mutlley wrote:
>
>> Wonder how they are going to long term archive movies done this way??
>> back to film separations or in 30 years time it's all lost ..

>
>Why should digital formats automatically make it hard to preserve long-term
>archives? Is it the DRM issue you're thinking of?


Nope. Just that digital archiving has a habit of going bad as
technology becomes obsolete.. Remember the CDRs that last a
hundred years and went bad before they could be copied.. Unless the
studios make regular archival copies of their movies every time a new
technology comes along then they will be lost..

Lawrence D'Oliveiro 08-27-2007 04:28 AM

Re: Film production goes digital
 
In message <8ak4d3ppik9o1bkak7ih6qfbossklngbvk@4ax.com>, Mutlley wrote:

> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> wrote:
>
>>In message <1c84d3p5es018jmtk5hbt7errdgqjp50mb@4ax.com>, Mutlley wrote:
>>
>>> Wonder how they are going to long term archive movies done this way??
>>> back to film separations or in 30 years time it's all lost ..

>>
>>Why should digital formats automatically make it hard to preserve
>>long-term archives? Is it the DRM issue you're thinking of?

>
> Nope. Just that digital archiving has a habit of going bad as
> technology becomes obsolete.. Remember the CDRs that last a
> hundred years and went bad before they could be copied.. Unless the
> studios make regular archival copies of their movies every time a new
> technology comes along then they will be lost..


So do that, then. Digital files are easy to copy--so keep copying them. And
keep multiple copies in physically separate locations.

Southern Kiwi 08-27-2007 07:28 PM

Re: Film production goes digital
 
Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> In message <8ak4d3ppik9o1bkak7ih6qfbossklngbvk@4ax.com>, Mutlley wrote:
>
>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> wrote:
>>
>>> In message <1c84d3p5es018jmtk5hbt7errdgqjp50mb@4ax.com>, Mutlley wrote:
>>>
>>>> Wonder how they are going to long term archive movies done this way??
>>>> back to film separations or in 30 years time it's all lost ..
>>> Why should digital formats automatically make it hard to preserve
>>> long-term archives? Is it the DRM issue you're thinking of?

>> Nope. Just that digital archiving has a habit of going bad as
>> technology becomes obsolete.. Remember the CDRs that last a
>> hundred years and went bad before they could be copied.. Unless the
>> studios make regular archival copies of their movies every time a new
>> technology comes along then they will be lost..

>
> So do that, then. Digital files are easy to copy--so keep copying them. And
> keep multiple copies in physically separate locations.

Not only that, but do it automatically..

Mutlley 08-27-2007 08:18 PM

Re: Film production goes digital
 
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> wrote:

>In message <8ak4d3ppik9o1bkak7ih6qfbossklngbvk@4ax.com>, Mutlley wrote:
>
>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> wrote:
>>
>>>In message <1c84d3p5es018jmtk5hbt7errdgqjp50mb@4ax.com>, Mutlley wrote:
>>>
>>>> Wonder how they are going to long term archive movies done this way??
>>>> back to film separations or in 30 years time it's all lost ..
>>>
>>>Why should digital formats automatically make it hard to preserve
>>>long-term archives? Is it the DRM issue you're thinking of?

>>
>> Nope. Just that digital archiving has a habit of going bad as
>> technology becomes obsolete.. Remember the CDRs that last a
>> hundred years and went bad before they could be copied.. Unless the
>> studios make regular archival copies of their movies every time a new
>> technology comes along then they will be lost..

>
>So do that, then. Digital files are easy to copy--so keep copying them. And
>keep multiple copies in physically separate locations.


Today the Studios reputation for preserving their movies leaves allot
to be desired so i don't expect it to improve with digital..

Lawrence D'Oliveiro 08-27-2007 11:01 PM

Re: Film production goes digital
 
In message <obc6d3pc395gqn39p0mm3a76c826fr9in0@4ax.com>, Mutlley wrote:

> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> wrote:
>
>>In message <8ak4d3ppik9o1bkak7ih6qfbossklngbvk@4ax.com>, Mutlley wrote:
>>
>>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> wrote:
>>>
>>>>In message <1c84d3p5es018jmtk5hbt7errdgqjp50mb@4ax.com>, Mutlley wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Wonder how they are going to long term archive movies done this way??
>>>>> back to film separations or in 30 years time it's all lost ..
>>>>
>>>>Why should digital formats automatically make it hard to preserve
>>>>long-term archives? Is it the DRM issue you're thinking of?
>>>
>>> Nope. Just that digital archiving has a habit of going bad as
>>> technology becomes obsolete.. Remember the CDRs that last a
>>> hundred years and went bad before they could be copied.. Unless the
>>> studios make regular archival copies of their movies every time a new
>>> technology comes along then they will be lost..

>>
>>So do that, then. Digital files are easy to copy--so keep copying them.
>>And keep multiple copies in physically separate locations.

>
> Today the Studios reputation for preserving their movies leaves allot
> to be desired so i don't expect it to improve with digital..


So hire a librarian to do it--that's what they're trained to do--classify
and archive information so that it can be easily found later.

And the physical job of doing it should actually be easier now that
everything is digital. Instead of having to deal with the difference
between books, tapes, film reels etc, it's all just bits, and can be
stored, squirted around etc using the same plumbing.

Richard 08-28-2007 10:54 AM

Re: Film production goes digital
 
Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> In message <1c84d3p5es018jmtk5hbt7errdgqjp50mb@4ax.com>, Mutlley wrote:
>
>> Wonder how they are going to long term archive movies done this way??
>> back to film separations or in 30 years time it's all lost ..

>
> Why should digital formats automatically make it hard to preserve long-term
> archives? Is it the DRM issue you're thinking of?


Guess you haven't used a recently made dvd writer and had the
"sucessful" burn immediately not verify, or become unreadable within months.

Mate has a book of 96 dvd-r's of HD movies which were downloaded, less
then half would read 4 months later, and it wasn't cheap media either.

Got most of them off by trying in different drives, still lost a few.
And they all verified ok in nero at burn time.


All times are GMT. The time now is 09:54 PM.

Powered by vBulletin®. Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO ©2010, Crawlability, Inc.