TradeMe Scams live !!!
 

Further to the thread the other day about schill bidders is this stuff I
have found. While scambusters.co.nz may be known to some of you I hadn't
been there. I joined up yesterday and went and had a look at their
message boards. There is a current thread that has been going since June
2006. It is 111 pages long. Being updated as I write this . It is called
Romanian scammer - hacked accounts -when will TM take action ?

100's of members accounts hacked and being used now for fraud. For 8
months Romanian hackers/phisers have been using Trademe to scam people.
Day after day, night after night they are bombarding Trademe with
fraudulent auctions. On and on and it seems Trademe are doing sweet ****
all. Blatently lying to media and minimising and covering up allowing it
to go on. I was shocked at how much the scambuster guys/gals were
intercepting and stopping while Tradem for 8 months has done **** all to
stop it. Same email addys, etc etc night after night. And Trade me
office SHUT AND EMPTY till after weekend. Open slather for them and they
did NOTHING. Unbelievable.

*quote*Another hole in TM systems? Trader disabled for some time now,
but scammer can amend listings. Scary... *endquote*

Scammer disabled but changes 50 legitimate auctions from disabled
account to his scamming phone ones after being disabled.!!!!!!!!!!

This from post 2 hours ago there ( with screen capture of TM homepage
with a 16 million dollar cell phone.) I mean how rooted is that. Trademe
homepage with scammers auction sabotaged by scambusters and still left
running and on homepage highlited. **** if these amatuers can detect it
and try stop it with bogus bids cos trademe havn't removed em after
being told what does 700 million buy you in way of good robust security
that works.

I just cannot believe that it is that wide open at trademe. These guys
have used 100s and 100s accounts and just don't stop. And some have been
owned for at least 8 months with some having 1000 feedbacks. Now if
they contact all those previous traders and do what ????

Phew that's over with. I was shocked hence big rant. I even know idiots
that would/will fall for it cos they are computer illiterate but bang
away on trademe. I usually are removing trojans/virus etc for them.
Fodder for these scammers LOL.

I'm going to bed, I'm depressed.
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Re: TradeMe Scams live !!!
 

On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:30:16 +1300, bAZZ wrote:

> Phew that's over with. I was shocked hence big rant. I even know idiots
> that would/will fall for it cos they are computer illiterate but bang
> away on trademe.

OK

Now we know that Trademe is a dodgy website.

We knew something would happen after it had been sold for such a high price.


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Re: TradeMe Scams live !!!
 

In article <45f83a5d@clear.net.nz>,
Dianthus Mimulus <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:30:16 +1300, bAZZ wrote:
>
> > Phew that's over with. I was shocked hence big rant. I even know idiots
> > that would/will fall for it cos they are computer illiterate but bang
> > away on trademe.
>
> OK
>
> Now we know that Trademe is a dodgy website.
>
> We knew something would happen after it had been sold for such a high price.

There we scams before, during and after the takeover. It has nothing to
do with the sale price.

Your tin foil hat is obviously not working...

Re: TradeMe Scams live !!!
 

In article <45f83a5d@clear.net.nz>, nospam@nospam.invalid says...
> On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:30:16 +1300, bAZZ wrote:
>
> > Phew that's over with. I was shocked hence big rant. I even know idiots
> > that would/will fall for it cos they are computer illiterate but bang
> > away on trademe.
>
> OK
>
> Now we know that Trademe is a dodgy website.
>
> We knew something would happen after it had been sold for such a high price.
>
>
>

Not really. My point was that so much money was involved that surely
they could spend some of it trying to police their own site FFS. I don't
think injection of cash caused it to be like that as it was already wide
open.

Maybe even use the newsletter to warn or advise people. These
scambusters were phoning/texting and emailing People to tell them they
were hacked and been phised just from watching auctions and being on
ball. Preventing firther fraud. Why can't Trademe do same ? Where are
their security people ? 100s and 100s people hijacked.

Just seems Trademe are turning blind eye or even ignoring problem or
have slack admins. Dunno maybe all 3.


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If you try me, you'll buy me
If you buy me, you'll use me
If you use me, you'll abuse me
If you abuse me, I'll own you.

Re: TradeMe Scams live !!!
 

bAZZ wrote:
> In article <45f83a5d@clear.net.nz>, nospam@nospam.invalid says...
> > On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:30:16 +1300, bAZZ wrote:
> >
> > > Phew that's over with. I was shocked hence big rant. I even know
> > > idiots that would/will fall for it cos they are computer
> > > illiterate but bang away on trademe.
> >
> > OK
> >
> > Now we know that Trademe is a dodgy website.
> >
> > We knew something would happen after it had been sold for such a
> > high price.
> >
> >
> >
>
> Not really. My point was that so much money was involved that surely
> they could spend some of it trying to police their own site FFS. I
> don't think injection of cash caused it to be like that as it was
> already wide open.
>
> Maybe even use the newsletter to warn or advise people. These
> scambusters were phoning/texting and emailing People to tell them they
> were hacked and been phised just from watching auctions and being on
> ball. Preventing firther fraud. Why can't Trademe do same ? Where are
> their security people ? 100s and 100s people hijacked.
>
> Just seems Trademe are turning blind eye or even ignoring problem or
> have slack admins. Dunno maybe all 3.

It begs the question Bazz; Why isn't this all over the media? Surely the
scambuster folk have contacted 20/20, Fair Go, Sunday, Campbell Live.....?
Why hasn't it been picked up? They were quick to jump on that local guy
scamming a mere couple thousand $.
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Re: TradeMe Scams live !!!
 

In article <45f873f0$1@news2.actrix.gen.nz>, misfit61nz@wahoo.com.au
says...
> bAZZ wrote:
> > In article <45f83a5d@clear.net.nz>, nospam@nospam.invalid says...
> > > On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:30:16 +1300, bAZZ wrote:
> > >
> > > > Phew that's over with. I was shocked hence big rant. I even know
> > > > idiots that would/will fall for it cos they are computer
> > > > illiterate but bang away on trademe.
> > >
> > > OK
> > >
> > > Now we know that Trademe is a dodgy website.
> > >
> > > We knew something would happen after it had been sold for such a
> > > high price.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Not really. My point was that so much money was involved that surely
> > they could spend some of it trying to police their own site FFS. I
> > don't think injection of cash caused it to be like that as it was
> > already wide open.
> >
> > Maybe even use the newsletter to warn or advise people. These
> > scambusters were phoning/texting and emailing People to tell them they
> > were hacked and been phised just from watching auctions and being on
> > ball. Preventing firther fraud. Why can't Trademe do same ? Where are
> > their security people ? 100s and 100s people hijacked.
> >
> > Just seems Trademe are turning blind eye or even ignoring problem or
> > have slack admins. Dunno maybe all 3.
>
> It begs the question Bazz; Why isn't this all over the media? Surely the
> scambuster folk have contacted 20/20, Fair Go, Sunday, Campbell Live.....?
> Why hasn't it been picked up? They were quick to jump on that local guy
> scamming a mere couple thousand $.
>

Yeah makes you wonder eh ? I know they did earlier but TM spiel lied and
media believed all well. End media interest. And then when NZ's largest
media group own trademe......... (conspiracy theorists jump in here<BG>)

Have a look at this. Incredible. This is today LOL

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/SearchResults.aspx?
sort_order=default&searchstring=nokia+n95+brand+ne w&current=0
&mcat=all&submit_keyword_search=++Search++&searchr egion=100
&advanced=true

Sorry about word wrap. Everyone scam. These people are finding them
contacting TM and some stay live for up to 50 minutes after TM know. My
whole point has been why are they and TM not policing this stuff better.
Obviouslt TM are stopping alot too but these get thru. It beggars belisf
that NZ's biggest website in $$$ , members and traffic cannot or will
not try and protect the unwary customers it makes it's money from.
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If you try me, you'll buy me
If you buy me, you'll use me
If you use me, you'll abuse me
If you abuse me, I'll own you.

Re: TradeMe Scams live !!!
 

> Yeah makes you wonder eh ? I know they did earlier but TM spiel lied and
> media believed all well. End media interest. And then when NZ's largest
> media group own trademe......... (conspiracy theorists jump in here<BG>)
>
> Have a look at this. Incredible. This is today LOL
>
> http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/SearchResults.aspx?
> sort_order=default&searchstring=nokia+n95+brand+ne w&current=0
> &mcat=all&submit_keyword_search=++Search++&searchr egion=100
> &advanced=true
>
> Sorry about word wrap. Everyone scam. These people are finding them
> contacting TM and some stay live for up to 50 minutes after TM know. My
> whole point has been why are they and TM not policing this stuff better.
> Obviouslt TM are stopping alot too but these get thru. It beggars belisf
> that NZ's biggest website in $$$ , members and traffic cannot or will
> not try and protect the unwary customers it makes it's money from.

All of those auctions were removed by trademe before they sold.... you
cant say trademe are not doing anything about it

Re: TradeMe Scams live !!!
 

In article <45F8963D.2020609@stuff.stuff>, alambert@stuff.stuff says...
> > Yeah makes you wonder eh ? I know they did earlier but TM spiel lied and
> > media believed all well. End media interest. And then when NZ's largest
> > media group own trademe......... (conspiracy theorists jump in here<BG>)
> >
> > Have a look at this. Incredible. This is today LOL
> >
> > http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/SearchResults.aspx?
> > sort_order=default&searchstring=nokia+n95+brand+ne w&current=0
> > &mcat=all&submit_keyword_search=++Search++&searchr egion=100
> > &advanced=true
> >
> > Sorry about word wrap. Everyone scam. These people are finding them
> > contacting TM and some stay live for up to 50 minutes after TM know. My
> > whole point has been why are they and TM not policing this stuff better.
> > Obviouslt TM are stopping alot too but these get thru. It beggars belisf
> > that NZ's biggest website in $$$ , members and traffic cannot or will
> > not try and protect the unwary customers it makes it's money from.
>
> All of those auctions were removed by trademe before they sold.... you
> cant say trademe are not doing anything about it
>

Well yes I can I think. Did you not notice the number of bids on some of
them too. 66 bids on one,31,14,59 etc etc. All the time those auctions
were 'live' the email adress and links to scammers were available. How
many page views ? If one auction attracted lots bids how amny viewwed it
and more importantly- how many clicked email link ? Also if Trade me CA
team were doing their job then these scammers auctions would not be able
to get posted to begin with. What about fact that you can change the
listing in a hijacked auction even when the trader has been disabled
???? Is that Trademe security in action. Romanians able to alter a
listing from disabled account to change to these phone scam ones ?
Robust security /ha.

Yes they are doing something about it but after fact and often when
approached by scambusters. They miss them completely. So yeah they are
doing something only half arsed and ambulence at bottom of cliff.

See Ya
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
If you try me, you'll buy me
If you buy me, you'll use me
If you use me, you'll abuse me
If you abuse me, I'll own you.

Re: TradeMe Scams live !!!
 

On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:20:30 +1300, bAZZ <not.really@my.real.addy.net>
exclaimed:

>http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/SearchResults.aspx?
>sort_order=default&searchstring=nokia+n95+brand+n ew&current=0
>&mcat=all&submit_keyword_search=++Search++&search region=100
>&advanced=true

Yes, but every one was removed by TM, too.

I'm not making excuses for them - pretty much everything else you've
said is true, and they've got a long history of covering up fraud on
their site, but credit where credit is due.


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it was his fault that he was in the wrong place at the wrong time...



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polluting the damn countryside just to get the goods to Nandor's favourite
supermarket. Well done Nandor you two faced tax paid good for nothing bastard"

- E. Scrooge (1/3/2007), a little unhappy about the Green's proposal to ban
supermarket bags...

Re: TradeMe Scams live !!!
 

In article <45F8963D.2020609@stuff.stuff>, alambert@stuff.stuff says...
> > Yeah makes you wonder eh ? I know they did earlier but TM spiel lied and
> > media believed all well. End media interest. And then when NZ's largest
> > media group own trademe......... (conspiracy theorists jump in here<BG>)
> >
> > Have a look at this. Incredible. This is today LOL
> >
> > http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/SearchResults.aspx?
> > sort_order=default&searchstring=nokia+n95+brand+ne w&current=0
> > &mcat=all&submit_keyword_search=++Search++&searchr egion=100
> > &advanced=true
> >
> > Sorry about word wrap. Everyone scam. These people are finding them
> > contacting TM and some stay live for up to 50 minutes after TM know. My
> > whole point has been why are they and TM not policing this stuff better.
> > Obviouslt TM are stopping alot too but these get thru. It beggars belisf
> > that NZ's biggest website in $$$ , members and traffic cannot or will
> > not try and protect the unwary customers it makes it's money from.
>
> All of those auctions were removed by trademe before they sold.... you
> cant say trademe are not doing anything about it
>

Hey Andrew

Got my conspiracy hat on now :)

stuff.stuff email address. Is that a coincidence that you use Trademe's
partner site in your addy ?

Wouldn't fact that you stated here your wife works there too be relevent
when defending Trademe's actions be mentioned when you comment on posts.
It has been done to death here a la Microsoft employees and conflict etc
posting about their company and I'm not wanting to get that hornets nest
started again. I would think tho if you spring to Trademe's defense then
stating your interest in them is helpful.

I am not trying to attack you personally just clarifiying where your
interests lay when commenting.
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If you try me, you'll buy me
If you buy me, you'll use me
If you use me, you'll abuse me
If you abuse me, I'll own you.