New version of Windows without a GUI?!
 

That's right! No GUI for Longhorn Server Core Edition. Server core is
designed to be a minimal server installation to provide a
low-maintenance server environment.

There's no Windows shell or GUI, the interface is the friendly command
prompt. There's no managed code support in Server Core, so all code
must be native Windows API code (important note for developers), and
there's limited MSI support (unattend mode only).

See more information here -
http://windowssdk.msdn.microsoft.com...ore/portal.asp

So that's an interesting turn of events for Windows Server, though I
agree with the direction. Less installed applications means less areas
open for attack, and more processing power for things your server
needs.
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Re: New version of Windows without a GUI?!
 

On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 18:50:09 +1300, Waylon Kenning wrote:

> So that's an interesting turn of events for Windows Server, though I agree
> with the direction.

So...

Where are the Windows on that version of Windows?

Is it supposed to be a paneless version of Windows?

Does that mean it will let all and sundry through the paneless Windows?

;o)

And of couse where is Micro$oft Internet Explorer in all this? Didn't
Micro$oft say that M$IE was an inseperable component of Micro$oft Windows?

Yeah right!


A Nice Cup of Tea

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Re: New version of Windows without a GUI?!
 

In article <pan.2006.02.24.06.27.25.181970@s.co>, c@t.com says...
> On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 18:50:09 +1300, Waylon Kenning wrote:
>
> > So that's an interesting turn of events for Windows Server, though I agree
> > with the direction.
>
> So...
>
> Where are the Windows on that version of Windows?
>
> Is it supposed to be a paneless version of Windows?
>
> Does that mean it will let all and sundry through the paneless Windows?
>
> ;o)
>
> And of couse where is Micro$oft Internet Explorer in all this? Didn't
> Micro$oft say that M$IE was an inseperable component of Micro$oft Windows?

IE isn't needed on a DHCP server.

> Yeah right!

like you have no idea.

Re: New version of Windows without a GUI?!
 

In article <7f7tv1lmojp7me4ra3cejlf0o55hdgfjt6@4ax.com>,
use.the.reply.to.header@this.is.fake says...
> That's right! No GUI for Longhorn Server Core Edition. Server core is
> designed to be a minimal server installation to provide a
> low-maintenance server environment.
>
> There's no Windows shell or GUI, the interface is the friendly command
> prompt. There's no managed code support in Server Core, so all code
> must be native Windows API code (important note for developers), and
> there's limited MSI support (unattend mode only).
>
> See more information here -
> http://windowssdk.msdn.microsoft.com...ore/portal.asp
>
> So that's an interesting turn of events for Windows Server, though I
> agree with the direction. Less installed applications means less areas
> open for attack, and more processing power for things your server
> needs.

Could be useful as a Windows server base for Virtual Server, something
with low overhead similar to VMware ESX?

Or for specialised server installs that run as virtual machine instances
with minimal resources.

Re: New version of Windows without a GUI?!
 

Rudy Seoa wrote:
> > That's right! No GUI for Longhorn Server Core Edition. Server core is
> > designed to be a minimal server installation to provide a
> > low-maintenance server environment.
> >
> > There's no Windows shell or GUI, the interface is the friendly command
> > prompt. There's no managed code support in Server Core, so all code
> > must be native Windows API code (important note for developers), and
> > there's limited MSI support (unattend mode only).
> >
> > See more information here -
> > http://windowssdk.msdn.microsoft.com...ore/portal.asp
> >
> > So that's an interesting turn of events for Windows Server, though I
> > agree with the direction. Less installed applications means less areas
> > open for attack, and more processing power for things your server
> > needs.
>
> Could be useful as a Windows server base for Virtual Server, something
> with low overhead similar to VMware ESX?

Exactly, in fact this is how the Windows Virtualisation technology will
work, there will be a Hypervisor built in using Server Core/Foundation
in the "Longhorn" Server wave of technologies.

> Or for specialised server installs that run as virtual machine instances
> with minimal resources.

Re: New version of Windows without a GUI?!
 

A Nice Cup of Tea wrote:
> > So that's an interesting turn of events for Windows Server, though I agree
> > with the direction.
>
> So...
>
> Where are the Windows on that version of Windows?
>
> Is it supposed to be a paneless version of Windows?
>
> Does that mean it will let all and sundry through the paneless Windows?
>
> ;o)
>
> And of couse where is Micro$oft Internet Explorer in all this? Didn't
> Micro$oft say that M$IE was an inseperable component of Micro$oft Windows?

Its not meant to run Server Applications, who needs a browser on a
server running as a
File Server, or DHCP Server, or DNS Server, or Active Directory DC
anyway?

Re: New version of Windows without a GUI?!
 

Nathan Mercer wrote:
> > Could be useful as a Windows server base for Virtual Server, something
> > with low overhead similar to VMware ESX?
>
> Exactly, in fact this is how the Windows Virtualisation technology will
> work, there will be a Hypervisor built in using Server Core/Foundation
> in the "Longhorn" Server wave of technologies.
>
> > Or for specialised server installs that run as virtual machine instances
> > with minimal resources.

More info here

Windows Virtualization Architecture
http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...3_WinHEC05.ppt

Microsoft Virtual Server: Overview and Roadmap
http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...8_WinHEC05.ppt

Cheers
Nathan

Re: New version of Windows without a GUI?!
 

On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 15:44:28 -0800, someone purporting to be Nathan
Mercer didst scrawl:

> A Nice Cup of Tea wrote:
*SNIP*
> Its not meant to run Server Applications, who needs a browser on a
> server running as a
> File Server, or DHCP Server, or DNS Server, or Active Directory DC
> anyway?

ROTFL. Microsoft finally cottoned on to something that the OSS community
have been saying for years.
How much smaller is the footprint of this new version, Nathan? I don't
imagine that having to drive a GUI is a terribly efficient use of
resources.

--
Matthew Poole
"Don't use force. Get a bigger hammer."

Re: New version of Windows without a GUI?!
 

On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:44:28 -0800, Nathan Mercer wrote:

> Its not meant to run Server Applications, who needs a browser on a server
> running as a
> File Server, or DHCP Server, or DNS Server, or Active Directory DC anyway?

So why did Micro$oft say M$IE was an integrated and inseperable component
of the Windoze OS?


A Nice Cup of Tea

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so fundamentally secure that customers never have to worry about it, ask him
what decade he plans to release it."

Re: New version of Windows without a GUI?!
 

On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 13:01:52 +1200, Don Hills wrote:

> It does amuse me to see Windows finally get a feature that OS/2 had from
> the beginning - the ability to run and be administered "headless".

I thought that "headless" meant without KVM attached.


A Nice Cup of Tea

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awful Linux is? If it was no threat they would just ignore and move on. I
think the same goes for a huge number of windows admins, they see a steep
learning curve for a whole new skill set on the horizon and are struggling
to avoid it. Linux and open source are the future, get used to it."