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JedMeister 01-21-2004 12:07 AM

woosh
 
Woosh are doing tons of marketing just now. Anyone have anything good to say
about Woosh broadband internet? Would it be reliable enough to use as a 24x7
business connection?

To me, wireless data connections seems more suited for 3rd world countries
and businesses that require mobile connectivity - oh yes, and countries with
monopolistic telecom monsters.




The Hobbit 01-21-2004 12:29 AM

Re: woosh
 

"JedMeister" <jehallinan.removethis@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
news:KojPb.18655$9k7.331370@news.xtra.co.nz...
> Woosh are doing tons of marketing just now. Anyone have anything good to

say
> about Woosh broadband internet? Would it be reliable enough to use as a

24x7
> business connection?


I'd like to have them as a backup incase some road crew put a digger bucket
through the phone cables (again) - I wonder if they'd have an affordable
plan for such a use?



Richard Holmes 01-21-2004 01:59 AM

Re: woosh
 
"JedMeister" <jehallinan.removethis@xtra.co.nz> wrote in
news:KojPb.18655$9k7.331370@news.xtra.co.nz:

> Woosh are doing tons of marketing just now. Anyone have anything good
> to say about Woosh broadband internet? Would it be reliable enough to
> use as a 24x7 business connection?
>
> To me, wireless data connections seems more suited for 3rd world
> countries and businesses that require mobile connectivity - oh yes,
> and countries with monopolistic telecom monsters.
>
>
>


As far as the Marketing goes, I see they haven't used the phrase "Woosh
It" yet, which could be miscontrued as "Woo ****" .......

My penny's worth.

RH

Allistar 01-22-2004 01:48 AM

Re: woosh
 
JedMeister wrote:

> Woosh are doing tons of marketing just now. Anyone have anything good to
> say about Woosh broadband internet? Would it be reliable enough to use as
> a 24x7 business connection?
>
> To me, wireless data connections seems more suited for 3rd world countries
> and businesses that require mobile connectivity - oh yes, and countries
> with monopolistic telecom monsters.


Are they allowed to legally advertise a 256kb/s connection as "broadband"?

Allistar.

harry 01-22-2004 02:29 AM

Re: woosh
 
On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:48:47 +1300, Allistar wrote:

> JedMeister wrote:
>
>> Woosh are doing tons of marketing just now. Anyone have anything good
>> to say about Woosh broadband internet? Would it be reliable enough to
>> use as a 24x7 business connection?
>>
>> To me, wireless data connections seems more suited for 3rd world
>> countries and businesses that require mobile connectivity - oh yes, and
>> countries with monopolistic telecom monsters.

>
> Are they allowed to legally advertise a 256kb/s connection as
> "broadband"?
>
> Allistar.


Why not ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadband_Internet

"The term broadband Internet access, often shortened to "broadband
Internet" or just "broadband", generically refers to last-mile Internet
connections exceeding the abilities of standard analog modems and of ISDN
connections, i.e. connections with speeds above 128 kilobits per second
(kbit/s)."

Other definitions welcome, I'd like to see answers giving good reasons why
some arbitrary rate is or isn't "broadband".
It seems pretty bloody fuzzy at the moment and we really need another
"broadband" thread to get that stupid turd Jay trolling the ng again.
NOT!


T.N.O. - Dave.net.nz 01-22-2004 02:36 AM

Re: woosh
 
Allistar wrote:
>>Woosh are doing tons of marketing just now. Anyone have anything good to
>>say about Woosh broadband internet? Would it be reliable enough to use as
>>a 24x7 business connection?
>>To me, wireless data connections seems more suited for 3rd world countries
>>and businesses that require mobile connectivity - oh yes, and countries
>>with monopolistic telecom monsters.


> Are they allowed to legally advertise a 256kb/s connection as "broadband"?


I doubt... correction... Im not certain that there is a legal definition
of broadband... as such, I would think it would be just the commoners
opinion of what broadband is to them.

As most users are still on dialup, they would probably deem 256kb/s to
be fast(compared to what they have), so would probably term it to be
broadband.

Personally, I think I read somewhere that 384kb/s(6 x 64kb) is
broadband, but I'm quite happy with 256kb/s wireless.

--
Dave Hall
http://Dave.net.nz
We have Hangman, Pacman, and Space Invaders


Jay 01-22-2004 02:44 AM

Re: woosh
 
JedMeister wrote:

> Woosh are doing tons of marketing just now. Anyone have anything good to
> say about Woosh broadband internet? Would it be reliable enough to use as
> a 24x7 business connection?


It isn't broadband because it is *slower* than a 56k dialup modem!
But there is nothing to stop a NZ company from telling lies.

>
> To me, wireless data connections seems more suited for 3rd world countries
> and businesses that require mobile connectivity - oh yes, and countries
> with monopolistic telecom monsters.


Exactly. Wouldn't you expect a more advanced country like the USA to
have extensive wireless "broadband"?

Woosh even went so far as to discourage the NZ government from
opening the local loop to competition.
And the NZ government took the bait! Apparently they believe
that having wireless will open up competition against Telecom
without having to open the local loop. How naive! So where will
that leave the NZ telecoms industry when their one hope goes
belly up?


Jay 01-22-2004 02:58 AM

Re: woosh
 
harry wrote:

> On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:48:47 +1300, Allistar wrote:
>
>> JedMeister wrote:
>>
>>> Woosh are doing tons of marketing just now. Anyone have anything good
>>> to say about Woosh broadband internet? Would it be reliable enough to
>>> use as a 24x7 business connection?
>>>
>>> To me, wireless data connections seems more suited for 3rd world
>>> countries and businesses that require mobile connectivity - oh yes, and
>>> countries with monopolistic telecom monsters.

>>
>> Are they allowed to legally advertise a 256kb/s connection as
>> "broadband"?
>>
>> Allistar.

>
> Why not ?
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadband_Internet
>
> "The term broadband Internet access, often shortened to "broadband
> Internet" or just "broadband", generically refers to last-mile Internet
> connections exceeding the abilities of standard analog modems and of ISDN
> connections, i.e. connections with speeds above 128 kilobits per second
> (kbit/s)."


That is a ridiculous statement.
Even ADSL modems are analog.

Anyhow that web page says "... above 512 kilobits per second ...".


>
> Other definitions welcome, I'd like to see answers giving good reasons why
> some arbitrary rate is or isn't "broadband".
> It seems pretty bloody fuzzy at the moment and we really need another
> "broadband" thread to get that stupid turd Jay trolling the ng again.
> NOT!


Because most other countries have concluded that broadband needs to
be at least 512k. In the UK action has been taken against companies
for misrepresentation based on such claims.

It also relates to your ability to view a reasonably sized streaming
video at a reasonable bitrate. You just cannot do that at 128k!
Your average mpeg4 needs 800kbps.


Allistar 01-22-2004 07:42 AM

Re: woosh
 
T.N.O. - Dave.net.nz wrote:

> Allistar wrote:
>>>Woosh are doing tons of marketing just now. Anyone have anything good to
>>>say about Woosh broadband internet? Would it be reliable enough to use as
>>>a 24x7 business connection?
>>>To me, wireless data connections seems more suited for 3rd world
>>>countries and businesses that require mobile connectivity - oh yes, and
>>>countries with monopolistic telecom monsters.

>
>> Are they allowed to legally advertise a 256kb/s connection as
>> "broadband"?

>
> I doubt... correction... Im not certain that there is a legal definition
> of broadband... as such, I would think it would be just the commoners
> opinion of what broadband is to them.
>
> As most users are still on dialup, they would probably deem 256kb/s to
> be fast(compared to what they have), so would probably term it to be
> broadband.
>
> Personally, I think I read somewhere that 384kb/s(6 x 64kb) is
> broadband, but I'm quite happy with 256kb/s wireless.


I's be happy with it too. The problem I have with NZ internet connections is
that they have reidiculously low data caps, unless you want to download at
dial-up speeds. I have a 10Gb cap on JetStart which is so easy to consume
it's not funny.

Allistar.



Roger Johnstone 01-22-2004 07:48 AM

Re: woosh
 
In <400f3928@duster.adelaide.on.net> Jay wrote:
> JedMeister wrote:
>
>> Woosh are doing tons of marketing just now. Anyone have anything good
>> to say about Woosh broadband internet? Would it be reliable enough to
>> use as a 24x7 business connection?

>
> It isn't broadband because it is *slower* than a 56k dialup modem!
> But there is nothing to stop a NZ company from telling lies.


You must have some _really_ fast 56k modems where you live. Over here
they're limited to a maximum of 56000 bits per second, which is why the
Woosh 250kbit/s connections are proving so popular. If you want to pay
for a business plan Woosh also offer 350kbit/s or 500kbit/s speeds.

--
Roger Johnstone, Invercargill, New Zealand
http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~rojaws/
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