is there anything proactive we can do to shut down spamers???????
 

we complain about them, but there must be some way to start shutting them
down?? hacking into the servers they use and shuting down there
conections??? hacking into there computer's and destroning there email
lists??


are they too cleaer to stop this happing to them?
Dan

Re: is there anything proactive we can do to shut down spamers???????
 

this quote is from Daniel Farley of Tue, 19 Aug 2003 22:51 :
> we complain about them, but there must be some way to start shutting them
> down?? hacking into the servers they use and shuting down there
> conections??? hacking into there computer's and destroning there email
> lists??

Cracking the mail relay servers might not be a good idea. At least some of
these are trojaned (= hijacked) or simply insecure servers that are owned /
run by ignorant innocents, or the spam is spoofed, so you run a high risk
of missing the spammer and hitting someone else.

Certainly, you should lobby your MP to make spamming illegal in NZ at least.
This won't stop the overseas spammers, of course, but if we do our bit and
people overseas do too ...
However, any legislation needs to be clear, not that weak excuse for
legislation that some USA states are considering. That is, under proposed
USA legislation spamming is ok if it has [ADV] or similar in the title, or
if the spammer thinks you opted in, or some other excuse. We need real
laws, so that _any_ unsolicited commercial or pornographic emails are
forbidden.

Otherwise, don't buy anything advertised by spam, and if you find the real
company behind it, let them know how antisocial they are.


Maybe some others have some more ideas?


Peter

Re: is there anything proactive we can do to shut down spamers???????
 

In article <3f4276b1@news.maxnet.co.nz>,
Peter <nospamjynyl@yahoo.co.nz> wrote:

>
> Otherwise, don't buy anything advertised by spam, and if you find the real
> company behind it, let them know how antisocial they are.
>
>
> Maybe some others have some more ideas?


Yes, send a letter to the local consulate/embassy telling them that you
are so sick of the spam originating from their country you will no
longer buy any products made in their country and you will no longer
consider their country as a holiday destination. When governments see
that spam is harming their economy then they will do something
worthwhile.
Let large companies know too that if their products are made in those
countries they will sit on the shelf, they have a LOT of clout with
these tin pot governments.

Re: is there anything proactive we can do to shut down spamers???????
 

In article <who-1B237D.07375420082003@news.xtra.co.nz>,
Who is this <who@is.this> wrote:

> In article <3f4276b1@news.maxnet.co.nz>,
> Peter <nospamjynyl@yahoo.co.nz> wrote:
>
> >
> > Otherwise, don't buy anything advertised by spam, and if you find the real
> > company behind it, let them know how antisocial they are.
> >
> >
> > Maybe some others have some more ideas?
>

Yes, search through the source of the spam and when you find a mailto:
post it in a usenet posting such as this. If this is an email address
that they are expecting orders to flood into let get it flooded with
spam and make that email account useless, it will also give the ISP of
the spam haven some grief.

For example

cosca0145@dreamwiz.com

then add some addresses such as
ppostmaster@dreamwiz.com
abuse@dreamwiz.com
sales@dreamwiz.com
help@dreamwiz.com

Re: is there anything proactive we can do to shut down spamers???????
 

On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 22:51:06 +1200, "Daniel Farley"
<spam@spamisbad.com> wrote:

>we complain about them, but there must be some way to start shutting them
>down?? hacking into the servers they use and shuting down there
>conections??? hacking into there computer's and destroning there email
>lists??
>
>
>are they too cleaer to stop this happing to them?
>Dan
>
Would it be any use ****ing off the credit card companies or billing
companies?

Re: is there anything proactive we can do to shut down spamers???????
 

Who is this wrote:

> In article <who-1B237D.07375420082003@news.xtra.co.nz>,
> Who is this <who@is.this> wrote:
>
>
>>In article <3f4276b1@news.maxnet.co.nz>,
>> Peter <nospamjynyl@yahoo.co.nz> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Otherwise, don't buy anything advertised by spam, and if you find the real
>>>company behind it, let them know how antisocial they are.
>>>
>>>
>>>Maybe some others have some more ideas?
>>>
>
> Yes, search through the source of the spam and when you find a mailto:
> post it in a usenet posting such as this. If this is an email address
> that they are expecting orders to flood into let get it flooded with
> spam and make that email account useless, it will also give the ISP of
> the spam haven some grief.
>
> For example
>
> cosca0145@dreamwiz.com
>
> then add some addresses such as
> ppostmaster@dreamwiz.com
> abuse@dreamwiz.com
> sales@dreamwiz.com
> help@dreamwiz.com
>

Then there are the false spammers, everything is faked, they are just
out to annoy not to sell.

Re: is there anything proactive we can do to shut down spamers???????
 

Who is this wrote:

>
> And ?
> When enough people get really ****ed off then ISPs and governments will
> do something about killing off spam

History has proven this is not the case. It wont be long before China
becomes an Intranet.

Re: is there anything proactive we can do to shut down spamers???????
 

In article <3f442375$1@news.iconz.co.nz>, m00se <spamtrap@mafia.org.nz>
wrote:

> Who is this wrote:
>
> >
> > And ?
> > When enough people get really ****ed off then ISPs and governments will
> > do something about killing off spam
>
> History has proven this is not the case. It wont be long before China
> becomes an Intranet.
>

Exactly, it is ONLY while ISPs accept email from china that the spam
thrives there, as soon as no one accepts any email from china then the
spam havens would dissapear so fast it would be like a miracle.