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will 07-11-2003 09:25 AM

DVD Write, + or -?
 
hi,

i've been thinking about getting a CDWR+DVD for a while, which is about
$150 at the moment. but the price of DVD Writer is pretty attractive too
at around $450. anyway, straight to the point, which DVD writing format
is more preferrable? DVD+RW or DVD-RW?

thanks

will.

Master Tech © 07-11-2003 09:48 AM

Re: DVD Write, + or -?
 
On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 21:25:29 +1200, will <wsiau@veryhotmail.com> wrote:

>hi,
>
>i've been thinking about getting a CDWR+DVD for a while, which is about
>$150 at the moment. but the price of DVD Writer is pretty attractive too
>at around $450. anyway, straight to the point, which DVD writing format
>is more preferrable? DVD+RW or DVD-RW?
>
>thanks
>
>will.




DVD + is the Only one to go for..



TEX 07-11-2003 10:38 AM

Re: DVD Write, + or -?
 
will wrote:

> hi,
>
> i've been thinking about getting a CDWR+DVD for a while, which is about
> $150 at the moment. but the price of DVD Writer is pretty attractive too
> at around $450. anyway, straight to the point, which DVD writing format
> is more preferrable? DVD+RW or DVD-RW?
>
> thanks
>
> will.


The + format is readable in more formats (standalones,Xbox,PSX etc etc)
than the - format. Although the + format is more expensive in terms of
media. Really depends what you want to accomplish/do. There is only a
few players that will read the - format (pioneer, yamaha...), so if you
have one of those cheap "tin shed" players forget it. The best way to go
is the Sony unit that does both formats, but they are double the price.
From what I have read, the general trend is that the - format will be
more widly supported in the future, and is the way the market is heading.

It's quiet a tough choice on what format, but what I generally say to
ppl is "What ever you buy it will be outdated in 3 months anyway, and
about 1/2 the price...so who really cares". I know ppl who have bought -
and + formats, no-one has complained on what they can and cannot do.
Just depends what you want to do.

TEX


Jay 07-11-2003 12:05 PM

Re: DVD Write, + or -?
 
will wrote:

> hi,
>
> i've been thinking about getting a CDWR+DVD for a while, which is about
> $150 at the moment. but the price of DVD Writer is pretty attractive too
> at around $450. anyway, straight to the point, which DVD writing format
> is more preferrable? DVD+RW or DVD-RW?


It will go the way of DVD-RW. Why? Nothing to do with the relative merits
of either format. Just that DVD-RW matches CD-RW.

Just nobody, and I mean nobody, feels comfortable with a '+'. It just
doesn't match anything we are familiar with.

So stick with the '-' as in DVD-R and DVD-RW and your investment
will probably last a year longer.

(PS: watch out for blue laser stuff - it will obsolete DVD shortly).


GraB 07-11-2003 02:29 PM

Re: DVD Write, + or -?
 
On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 22:05:23 +1000, Jay <me@privacy.net> wrote:

>will wrote:
>
>> hi,
>>
>> i've been thinking about getting a CDWR+DVD for a while, which is about
>> $150 at the moment. but the price of DVD Writer is pretty attractive too
>> at around $450. anyway, straight to the point, which DVD writing format
>> is more preferrable? DVD+RW or DVD-RW?

>
>It will go the way of DVD-RW. Why? Nothing to do with the relative merits
>of either format. Just that DVD-RW matches CD-RW.
>
>Just nobody, and I mean nobody, feels comfortable with a '+'. It just
>doesn't match anything we are familiar with.
>
>So stick with the '-' as in DVD-R and DVD-RW and your investment
>will probably last a year longer.
>
>(PS: watch out for blue laser stuff - it will obsolete DVD shortly).


We have to ask Master Tech about that, don't we? But it will be ages
before the price is affordable.

The Other Guy 07-11-2003 07:50 PM

Re: DVD Write, + or -?
 
Both. HP, Microsoft, and Dell (from memory) are backing DVD+R/RW, so it is
likely to become the dominant format. Currently DVD-R media is cheaper than
DVD+R, so if you buy a drive that can write both, you will save in the long
run, assuming you actually plan to use it enough to justify the extra cost.

Sony DRU-500AX or DRU-510A (Newer, slightly faster on RW only). There is a
Pioneer model as well, but I haven't seen it online in NZ yet.

The Other Guy

"will" <wsiau@veryhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3F0E8289.1D46CDD8@veryhotmail.com...
> hi,
>
> i've been thinking about getting a CDWR+DVD for a while, which is about
> $150 at the moment. but the price of DVD Writer is pretty attractive too
> at around $450. anyway, straight to the point, which DVD writing format
> is more preferrable? DVD+RW or DVD-RW?
>
> thanks
>
> will.




Burt 07-11-2003 09:22 PM

Re: DVD Write, + or -?
 

"The Other Guy" <null@null.void> wrote in message news:3f0f1684$1@slave...
> Both. HP, Microsoft, and Dell (from memory) are backing DVD+R/RW, so it is
> likely to become the dominant format. Currently DVD-R media is cheaper

than
> DVD+R, so if you buy a drive that can write both, you will save in the

long
> run, assuming you actually plan to use it enough to justify the extra

cost.
>
> Sony DRU-500AX or DRU-510A (Newer, slightly faster on RW only). There is a
> Pioneer model as well, but I haven't seen it online in NZ yet.
>
> The Other Guy
>
> "will" <wsiau@veryhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3F0E8289.1D46CDD8@veryhotmail.com...
> > hi,
> >
> > i've been thinking about getting a CDWR+DVD for a while, which is about
> > $150 at the moment. but the price of DVD Writer is pretty attractive too
> > at around $450. anyway, straight to the point, which DVD writing format
> > is more preferrable? DVD+RW or DVD-RW?
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > will.

>
>


I have a TDK440N which dual writes R+/RW+ and R-/RW- at 4x speed. It is a
rebadged NEC1300a for which you can get region free firmware, and also
firmware that will allow you to burn cheaper media.

http://forum.rpc1.org/viewforum.php?f=2

One thing to watch out for, just as much R- or R+ formats, is the media DVD
writers will burn. I found out they are lot more picky than CDR when it
comes to cheaper media, and the coasters are more expensive :-(.

Burt



Invisible 07-12-2003 12:40 AM

Re: DVD Write, + or -?
 
On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 07:50:55 +1200, "The Other Guy" <null@null.void> wrote:

>Both. HP, Microsoft, and Dell (from memory) are backing DVD+R/RW, so it is
>likely to become the dominant format. Currently DVD-R media is cheaper than
>DVD+R, so if you buy a drive that can write both, you will save in the long
>run, assuming you actually plan to use it enough to justify the extra cost.
>
>Sony DRU-500AX or DRU-510A (Newer, slightly faster on RW only). There is a
>Pioneer model as well, but I haven't seen it online in NZ yet.



AO6? Morningstar (dealer login) have it listed, but out of stock.



Jay 07-12-2003 01:06 AM

Re: DVD Write, + or -?
 
GraB wrote:

> On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 22:05:23 +1000, Jay <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>>will wrote:
>>
>>> hi,
>>>
>>> i've been thinking about getting a CDWR+DVD for a while, which is about
>>> $150 at the moment. but the price of DVD Writer is pretty attractive too
>>> at around $450. anyway, straight to the point, which DVD writing format
>>> is more preferrable? DVD+RW or DVD-RW?

>>
>>It will go the way of DVD-RW. Why? Nothing to do with the relative merits
>>of either format. Just that DVD-RW matches CD-RW.
>>
>>Just nobody, and I mean nobody, feels comfortable with a '+'. It just
>>doesn't match anything we are familiar with.
>>
>>So stick with the '-' as in DVD-R and DVD-RW and your investment
>>will probably last a year longer.
>>
>>(PS: watch out for blue laser stuff - it will obsolete DVD shortly).

>
> Check out http://www.cdfreaks.com/article/113


But Beta was superior to VHS.


John 07-12-2003 01:31 AM

Re: DVD Write, + or -?
 
Master Tech © <mt@electronics.co.nz> wrote:

>On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 21:25:29 +1200, will <wsiau@veryhotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>hi,
>>
>>i've been thinking about getting a CDWR+DVD for a while, which is about
>>$150 at the moment. but the price of DVD Writer is pretty attractive too
>>at around $450. anyway, straight to the point, which DVD writing format
>>is more preferrable? DVD+RW or DVD-RW?
>>
>>thanks
>>
>>will.

>
>
>
>DVD + is the Only one to go for..
>

Buy a duel one like the Pioneer AO6 or Pioneer DVR 106 + and --
formats. I suspect the NZ pricing will over the top though..


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