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Tony 10-09-2007 04:54 PM

Is the Epson V700 / V750 the best compromise?
 
For a very good (hopefully excellent) film scanner and flatbed? I've read
the UK online and Shutterbug reviews, and it seems like once you use a
little careful USM and get the film the right distance from the sensor that
the V700 / V750 is almost as good as a Nikon L8000. If that's true it may be
quite good enough for most users.

But I've also been looking at the other contenders: the Microtek i900 and
(not yet available?) M1, the HP 8300, and the Canon 9900F. I think the Epson
has a higher optical resolution that most (if not all) of these, but I was
wondering if anyone had any experience with a couple or a few of these to
tell if the Epsons are the hands down winners.



Toni Nikkanen 10-09-2007 04:56 PM

Re: Is the Epson V700 / V750 the best compromise?
 
"Tony" <none@none.com> writes:

> For a very good (hopefully excellent) film scanner and flatbed? I've read
> the UK online and Shutterbug reviews, and it seems like once you use a
> little careful USM and get the film the right distance from the sensor that
> the V700 / V750 is almost as good as a Nikon L8000. If that's true it may be
> quite good enough for most users.


No it's not almost as good, but you'll be able to get very good
results anyway. I've used the V700 for a year and the Coolscan 8000
for a day and I've already blown myself out of my chair a couple times
re-scanning some slides.
(And I still haven't even tried the glass carrier yet, but probably
will in a few hours :))

However if you need to scan reflective or large format transparent
materials it's going to be hard to justify getting TWO huge scanners
on your desk, so the Epson might be the choice to make anyway..




Toni Nikkanen 10-09-2007 05:08 PM

Re: Is the Epson V700 / V750 the best compromise?
 

I'd like to add that I have no experience on the other scanner models
mentioned, except I don't think the Canoscan 9950F will be able to
beat the V700 in any respect, though the difference isn't likely huge.

Kinon O'Cann 10-09-2007 05:33 PM

Re: Is the Epson V700 / V750 the best compromise?
 

"Tony" <none@none.com> wrote in message
news:9pWdneJ9D6vJLJbanZ2dnUVZ_qWtnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> For a very good (hopefully excellent) film scanner and flatbed? I've read
> the UK online and Shutterbug reviews, and it seems like once you use a
> little careful USM and get the film the right distance from the sensor
> that the V700 / V750 is almost as good as a Nikon L8000. If that's true it
> may be quite good enough for most users.
>
> But I've also been looking at the other contenders: the Microtek i900 and
> (not yet available?) M1, the HP 8300, and the Canon 9900F. I think the
> Epson has a higher optical resolution that most (if not all) of these, but
> I was wondering if anyone had any experience with a couple or a few of
> these to tell if the Epsons are the hands down winners.
>


No flatbed I've ever used can touch a Coolscan 8000. I use an Epson V750,
and while it is good, it's only about 60% of the Coolscan, at best.



Barry Watzman 10-09-2007 07:58 PM

Re: Is the Epson V700 / V750 the best compromise?
 
My experience with flatbeds for 35mm has not been good. I suspect that
even an old LS-2000 or LS-30 does a better job for 35mm negatives.
Optical resolution is definitely not the issue. An LS-30/2000 is only
2,700 dpi, but that translates into 10 megapixels and, in TIFF format
from the LS-2000, a 50 megabyte file. That's as much resolution or file
size as I would want, even if more were available.


Tony wrote:
> For a very good (hopefully excellent) film scanner and flatbed? I've read
> the UK online and Shutterbug reviews, and it seems like once you use a
> little careful USM and get the film the right distance from the sensor that
> the V700 / V750 is almost as good as a Nikon L8000. If that's true it may be
> quite good enough for most users.
>
> But I've also been looking at the other contenders: the Microtek i900 and
> (not yet available?) M1, the HP 8300, and the Canon 9900F. I think the Epson
> has a higher optical resolution that most (if not all) of these, but I was
> wondering if anyone had any experience with a couple or a few of these to
> tell if the Epsons are the hands down winners.
>
>


Psygnosis - Silent Running 10-09-2007 09:41 PM

Re: Is the Epson V700 / V750 the best compromise?
 
"Toni Nikkanen" <toni@morgoth.tuug.fi> wrote in message
news:rlp4ph06xbc.fsf@morgoth.tuug.fi...
> "Tony" <none@none.com> writes:
>
>> For a very good (hopefully excellent) film scanner and flatbed? I've read
>> the UK online and Shutterbug reviews, and it seems like once you use a
>> little careful USM and get the film the right distance from the sensor
>> that
>> the V700 / V750 is almost as good as a Nikon L8000. If that's true it may
>> be
>> quite good enough for most users.

>
> No it's not almost as good, but you'll be able to get very good
> results anyway. I've used the V700 for a year and the Coolscan 8000
> for a day and I've already blown myself out of my chair a couple times
> re-scanning some slides.
> (And I still haven't even tried the glass carrier yet, but probably
> will in a few hours :))
>
> However if you need to scan reflective or large format transparent
> materials it's going to be hard to justify getting TWO huge scanners
> on your desk, so the Epson might be the choice to make anyway..
>
>
>


Read the reviews. It is almost as good. Don't comment on an item you haven't
used. It makes you look like an ass.

Psygnosis


Psygnosis - Silent Running 10-09-2007 09:42 PM

Re: Is the Epson V700 / V750 the best compromise?
 
"Kinon O'Cann" <somewhere@over.the.rainbow> wrote in message
news:3YOOi.384$C8.352@bos-service2b.ext.ray.com...
>
> "Tony" <none@none.com> wrote in message
> news:9pWdneJ9D6vJLJbanZ2dnUVZ_qWtnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> For a very good (hopefully excellent) film scanner and flatbed? I've read
>> the UK online and Shutterbug reviews, and it seems like once you use a
>> little careful USM and get the film the right distance from the sensor
>> that the V700 / V750 is almost as good as a Nikon L8000. If that's true
>> it may be quite good enough for most users.
>>
>> But I've also been looking at the other contenders: the Microtek i900 and
>> (not yet available?) M1, the HP 8300, and the Canon 9900F. I think the
>> Epson has a higher optical resolution that most (if not all) of these,
>> but I was wondering if anyone had any experience with a couple or a few
>> of these to tell if the Epsons are the hands down winners.
>>

>
> No flatbed I've ever used can touch a Coolscan 8000. I use an Epson V750,
> and while it is good, it's only about 60% of the Coolscan, at best.
>


Apparently you don't know how to use it then.

Psygnosis


Psygnosis - Silent Running 10-09-2007 09:42 PM

Re: Is the Epson V700 / V750 the best compromise?
 
"Barry Watzman" <WatzmanNOSPAM@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
news:470bdde0$0$32517$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> My experience with flatbeds for 35mm has not been good. I suspect that
> even an old LS-2000 or LS-30 does a better job for 35mm negatives. Optical
> resolution is definitely not the issue. An LS-30/2000 is only 2,700 dpi,
> but that translates into 10 megapixels and, in TIFF format from the
> LS-2000, a 50 megabyte file. That's as much resolution or file size as I
> would want, even if more were available.
>
>
> Tony wrote:
>> For a very good (hopefully excellent) film scanner and flatbed? I've read
>> the UK online and Shutterbug reviews, and it seems like once you use a
>> little careful USM and get the film the right distance from the sensor
>> that the V700 / V750 is almost as good as a Nikon L8000. If that's true
>> it may be quite good enough for most users.
>>
>> But I've also been looking at the other contenders: the Microtek i900 and
>> (not yet available?) M1, the HP 8300, and the Canon 9900F. I think the
>> Epson has a higher optical resolution that most (if not all) of these,
>> but I was wondering if anyone had any experience with a couple or a few
>> of these to tell if the Epsons are the hands down winners.


Ah another brain that has never used the scanner.

Psygnosis


Tony 10-10-2007 02:26 AM

Re: Is the Epson V700 / V750 the best compromise?
 

"Kinon O'Cann" <somewhere@over.the.rainbow> wrote in message
news:3YOOi.384$C8.352@bos-service2b.ext.ray.com...
>
> "Tony" <none@none.com> wrote in message
> news:9pWdneJ9D6vJLJbanZ2dnUVZ_qWtnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> For a very good (hopefully excellent) film scanner and flatbed? I've read
>> the UK online and Shutterbug reviews, and it seems like once you use a
>> little careful USM and get the film the right distance from the sensor
>> that the V700 / V750 is almost as good as a Nikon L8000. If that's true
>> it may be quite good enough for most users.
>>
>> But I've also been looking at the other contenders: the Microtek i900 and
>> (not yet available?) M1, the HP 8300, and the Canon 9900F. I think the
>> Epson has a higher optical resolution that most (if not all) of these,
>> but I was wondering if anyone had any experience with a couple or a few
>> of these to tell if the Epsons are the hands down winners.
>>

>
> No flatbed I've ever used can touch a Coolscan 8000. I use an Epson V750,
> and while it is good, it's only about 60% of the Coolscan, at best.
>


You may not have seen this, but take a look here

http://www.photo-i.co.uk/Reviews/int...750/page_5.htm

at the V750 crop after USM. Also read the text.



Toni Nikkanen 10-10-2007 05:16 AM

Re: Is the Epson V700 / V750 the best compromise?
 
"Psygnosis - Silent Running" <Psygnosis@SilentRunning.com> writes:


> Read the reviews. It is almost as good. Don't comment on an item you
> haven't used. It makes you look like an ass.


Uh, which part of "I've used the V700 for a year and the Coolscan 8000
for a day" you didn't get? I have both units sitting right here on my
desk now, with the V700 going out as soon as I find a buyer.


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