A highly stupid question about ST: TNG DVDs
 

The new full-series Star Trek: The Next Generation DVD
set looks pretty slick. Has Paramount made any indication
that they'd be releasing the other series in this fashion?
I'm thinking mostly of Voyager, since I already have DS9
on DVD and, while Voyager is my least favorite series, it
wouldn't be a bad idea to have it around for reference.
Less than $40 a season seems like a fair price. With
DDD's regular sale, that'd work out to about $34 each.
I can live with that.

I say this is a stupid question, because I know Paramount
has never turned down the opportunity to re-sell Star Trek*,
but it'd be great to know they've announced their long-range
plans, just like they did when they started releasing their
season sets the first time around.


--

Aaron (* that HD-DVD thing notwithstanding) Bossig

http://www.GodsLabRat.com

Re: A highly stupid question about ST: TNG DVDs
 

Aaron J. Bossig wrote:
> The new full-series Star Trek: The Next Generation DVD
> set looks pretty slick. Has Paramount made any indication
> that they'd be releasing the other series in this fashion?
> I'm thinking mostly of Voyager, since I already have DS9
> on DVD and, while Voyager is my least favorite series, it
> wouldn't be a bad idea to have it around for reference.
> Less than $40 a season seems like a fair price. With
> DDD's regular sale, that'd work out to about $34 each.
> I can live with that.

Paramount seems to treat all the Treks equally (whereas the fans do
not), so IF there's any word after this set, we'll probably see a
complete DS9 first...

Unless you'd rather wait a year or two for the rumored HD-reconstituted
Next episodes, after they finish their last third of the Classic run?

Derek Janssen
ejanss@comcast.net

Re: A highly stupid question about ST: TNG DVDs
 

Derek Janssen <ejanss1@nospam.verizon.net> wrote in news:E7AJi.150
$yh3.10@trndny01:

> Paramount seems to treat all the Treks equally (whereas the fans do
> not), so IF there's any word after this set, we'll probably see a
> complete DS9 first...

Thought so, but it's worth asking. It ain't like I'm waiting with
baited breath.

> Unless you'd rather wait a year or two for the rumored HD-
reconstituted
> Next episodes, after they finish their last third of the Classic run?

.... Not really. I'm pretty skeptical of any efforts to restore TNG that
go beyond basic color-correction. The show was made in a very, very SD
style, and they can't really make use of the original film elements
without throwing away a huge chunk of the SFX. I view it as a
baby/bathwater situation. TOS was pretty fortunate, in that both the
standard shots and FX were both done in the film realm, which made the
tweaks in the remastered edition so much cleaner.

OTOH, I'm not opposed to giving it a try... but when it comes time to
get TNG again, I'll make sure to get the "pure" versions first. Like
with TOS, the HD remasters may be fun, but I don't want to lose the
look captured in the Red/Blue/Yellow boxes either.

Now, the real question is, how long will we have to wait to get
Enterprise in HD? That shouldn't take much effort at all, considering
it was tailor-made for HD.



--

Aaron J. Bossig

http://www.GodsLabRat.com

Re: A highly stupid question about ST: TNG DVDs
 

Aaron J. Bossig wrote:
>
>>Unless you'd rather wait a year or two for the rumored HD-reconstituted
>>Next episodes, after they finish their last third of the Classic run?
>
> ... Not really. I'm pretty skeptical of any efforts to restore TNG that
> go beyond basic color-correction. The show was made in a very, very SD
> style, and they can't really make use of the original film elements
> without throwing away a huge chunk of the SFX. I view it as a
> baby/bathwater situation. TOS was pretty fortunate, in that both the
> standard shots and FX were both done in the film realm, which made the
> tweaks in the remastered edition so much cleaner.

The TOS 2.0 FX shots were fortunate enough to be newly created
insert-shots, since they never shared any scenes with the actors (except
for the monitor screens, which could be easily separated)--

As for Next 2.0, Paramount claims they still have the raw actor-footage
elements in the vault, and they *could* create new virtual-Enterprise
CGI sets if they needed to...And even then, the design would be so
consistent with current canon, it would just be a matter of new
definition levels for the CGI FX.

(Eg. the TOS 2.0 establishing ship-shots now have "Berman-style"
3/4-angle aerials of orbiting the planets, which the Nexts invented in
the first place.)

> OTOH, I'm not opposed to giving it a try... but when it comes time to
> get TNG again, I'll make sure to get the "pure" versions first. Like
> with TOS, the HD remasters may be fun, but I don't want to lose the
> look captured in the Red/Blue/Yellow boxes either.
>
> Now, the real question is, how long will we have to wait to get
> Enterprise in HD? That shouldn't take much effort at all, considering
> it was tailor-made for HD.

Think Voyager also had some widescreen delusions-of-grandeur near the
end of its run (not sure though, as you couldn't make me watch it
again), so the conversion gets easier past DS9.
It's just the first two series that're the major hurdles, and Paramount
seems to have passed the first one nice and clean.

Derek Janssen
ejanss1@verizon.net

Re: A highly stupid question about ST: TNG DVDs
 

Derek Janssen wrote:
> Paramount seems to treat all the Treks equally (whereas the fans do
> not), so IF there's any word after this set, we'll probably see a
> complete DS9 first...

It looks like there is already a complete set of DS9 available.
Best Buy has a 48 disk set available for $442.83

<
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....uct&id=1383492 >

Star Trek Enterprise is also available for $407.98 for 27 packs.

Star Trek Next Generation for $442.83

Star Trek Voyager for $696.98, 47 packs.

Not sure why Voyager is so much higher.

Re: A highly stupid question about ST: TNG DVDs
 

Derek Janssen <ejanss1@nospam.verizon.net> wrote in news:LICJi.4271
$ax2.4168@trndny08:

> Think Voyager also had some widescreen delusions-of-grandeur near the
> end of its run

Interesting. It would be the first I've heard of it, though.



--

Aaron J. Bossig

http://www.GodsLabRat.com

Re: A highly stupid question about ST: TNG DVDs
 

"Mark Jones" <noemail@mindspring.com> wrote in
news:13fe34cdsmc3u4d@corp.supernews.com:

> Derek Janssen wrote:
>> Paramount seems to treat all the Treks equally (whereas the fans do
>> not), so IF there's any word after this set, we'll probably see a
>> complete DS9 first...
>
> It looks like there is already a complete set of DS9 available.
> Best Buy has a 48 disk set available for $442.83
>
> <
> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....pe=product&id=
> 1383492 >

Not quite. What you're seeing here is a release that has all 7
individual season sets shrinkwrapped and sold under one SKU.
The upcoming TNG set is actually a unique new release that sells
all the discs in one package, at a much reduced price over buying
the seven seasons (seperately or bundled).


--

Aaron J. Bossig

http://www.GodsLabRat.com

Re: A highly stupid question about ST: TNG DVDs
 

In article <Xns99B4F37041BD4linkvb06@216.196.97.142>, linkvb06
@SpammersWillBeExecuted.ptd.net says...
> "Mark Jones" <noemail@mindspring.com> wrote in
> news:13fe34cdsmc3u4d@corp.supernews.com:
>
> > Derek Janssen wrote:
> >> Paramount seems to treat all the Treks equally (whereas the fans do
> >> not), so IF there's any word after this set, we'll probably see a
> >> complete DS9 first...
> >
> > It looks like there is already a complete set of DS9 available.
> > Best Buy has a 48 disk set available for $442.83
> >
> > <
> > http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....pe=product&id=
> > 1383492 >
>
> Not quite. What you're seeing here is a release that has all 7
> individual season sets shrinkwrapped and sold under one SKU.
> The upcoming TNG set is actually a unique new release that sells
> all the discs in one package, at a much reduced price over buying
> the seven seasons (seperately or bundled).

At Amazon, there's barely any price difference between the 7-season-set
bundle and the new set:

http://www.amazon.com/Star-Trek-Next.../dp/B00062RCBW

http://www.amazon.com/Star-Trek-Next.../dp/B000RZIGVS

but there are 49 discs listed in the new set vs. 48 in the bundled set,
so I assume there are probably some new special features in the new set.
I didn't investigate further, as my interest in all things Trek pretty
much stops at the original series - never have had the time to devote to
watching the subsequent series the way I did with TOS.

Dave