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Jimmy! 07-20-2005 12:46 PM

Cannot boot at all; not even safe mode.
 
Ahoy!

Until upgrading to the full version, 64-bit was working fine (the trial
version, that is). Now that I have obtained the full version of it, it
won't boot up AT ALL! This is really starting to get at me since I have
bought a 250gb HDD dedicated to the x64 platform. I have tried installing
two different copies of x64 (one being my friends copy and the other mine)
onto 1. a partitioned hard drive; 2. a completely different hard drive.
What I don't understand is why the trial version ran fine and the full
version does not even boot! It just simply reboots after I select it from
the boot menu (ie, selecting which version of Windows to run). I have an
AMD 64-bit 3200 processor; 1GB RAM; ATI Radeon X800PRO (overclocked in
Windows 32-bit with ATI Tool); two Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm HDD's
(200gb/250gb); and an ASUS K8V SE Deluxe. I have no idea as to what's going
on. If it helps, I can get it to show a BSOD and write that down to post
here. Can anyone please help me?

Thanks in advance,

JimmY! :D



Rick 07-20-2005 12:55 PM

Re: Cannot boot at all; not even safe mode.
 
What did you "upgrade" from: Beta, CPP, or Trial version?

Did you do a clean install?

Do you have the latest version of the drivers?

Are your Seagate Barracudas EIDE or SATA?



Jimmy! wrote:
> Ahoy!
>
> Until upgrading to the full version, 64-bit was working fine (the trial
> version, that is). Now that I have obtained the full version of it, it
> won't boot up AT ALL! This is really starting to get at me since I have
> bought a 250gb HDD dedicated to the x64 platform. I have tried installing
> two different copies of x64 (one being my friends copy and the other mine)
> onto 1. a partitioned hard drive; 2. a completely different hard drive.
> What I don't understand is why the trial version ran fine and the full
> version does not even boot! It just simply reboots after I select it from
> the boot menu (ie, selecting which version of Windows to run). I have an
> AMD 64-bit 3200 processor; 1GB RAM; ATI Radeon X800PRO (overclocked in
> Windows 32-bit with ATI Tool); two Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm HDD's
> (200gb/250gb); and an ASUS K8V SE Deluxe. I have no idea as to what's going
> on. If it helps, I can get it to show a BSOD and write that down to post
> here. Can anyone please help me?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> JimmY! :D
>
>


Wayne Wastier 07-20-2005 02:20 PM

Re: Cannot boot at all; not even safe mode.
 

"Jimmy!" <jimmyre@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
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> Ahoy!
>
> Until upgrading to the full version, 64-bit was working fine (the trial
> version, that is).


Your upgrade from the trial version should have worked. However, it maybe
that some of the system files became corrupted during the upgrade. Your best
bet at this time is to first try a repair using your OEM version of XP x64.
Then if that doesn't work, you should consider doing a full install by first
formatting the drive where you want XP x64 to reside.


Wayne



Darrell Gorter[MSFT] 07-20-2005 06:50 PM

RE: Cannot boot at all; not even safe mode.
 
Hello Jimmy,
Yes the bsod error would be helpful.
Something changed on the system since it used to work with the trial and
now it doesn't.
What exactly do you mean by trial?
If you mean the evaluation version that has been available to download for
the past couple of months, then there is nothing significantly different
that would change installation behavior.
If by trial, you mean one of the beta versions, then there would be code
changes that could affect this.
What happens if the ATI card is not overclocked?
Thanks,
Darrell Gorter[MSFT]

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights
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<Ahoy!
<
<Until upgrading to the full version, 64-bit was working fine (the trial
<version, that is). Now that I have obtained the full version of it, it
<won't boot up AT ALL! This is really starting to get at me since I have
<bought a 250gb HDD dedicated to the x64 platform. I have tried installing
<two different copies of x64 (one being my friends copy and the other mine)
<onto 1. a partitioned hard drive; 2. a completely different hard drive.
<What I don't understand is why the trial version ran fine and the full
<version does not even boot! It just simply reboots after I select it from
<the boot menu (ie, selecting which version of Windows to run). I have an
<AMD 64-bit 3200 processor; 1GB RAM; ATI Radeon X800PRO (overclocked in
<Windows 32-bit with ATI Tool); two Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm HDD's
<(200gb/250gb); and an ASUS K8V SE Deluxe. I have no idea as to what's
going
<on. If it helps, I can get it to show a BSOD and write that down to post
<here. Can anyone please help me?
<
<Thanks in advance,
<
<JimmY! :D
<
<
<


Andre Da Costa [Extended64] 07-20-2005 06:58 PM

Re: Cannot boot at all; not even safe mode.
 
Recovery seems hopeless right now, I would just recommend doing a clean
install.
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"Jimmy!" <jimmyre@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
news:OArxGkSjFHA.3972@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Ahoy!
>
> Until upgrading to the full version, 64-bit was working fine (the trial
> version, that is). Now that I have obtained the full version of it, it
> won't boot up AT ALL! This is really starting to get at me since I have
> bought a 250gb HDD dedicated to the x64 platform. I have tried installing
> two different copies of x64 (one being my friends copy and the other mine)
> onto 1. a partitioned hard drive; 2. a completely different hard drive.
> What I don't understand is why the trial version ran fine and the full
> version does not even boot! It just simply reboots after I select it from
> the boot menu (ie, selecting which version of Windows to run). I have an
> AMD 64-bit 3200 processor; 1GB RAM; ATI Radeon X800PRO (overclocked in
> Windows 32-bit with ATI Tool); two Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm HDD's
> (200gb/250gb); and an ASUS K8V SE Deluxe. I have no idea as to what's
> going on. If it helps, I can get it to show a BSOD and write that down to
> post here. Can anyone please help me?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> JimmY! :D
>




Colin Barnhorst 07-20-2005 10:16 PM

Re: Cannot boot at all; not even safe mode.
 
I would try a repair install first.

"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OQL%23F0VjFHA.3656@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Recovery seems hopeless right now, I would just recommend doing a clean
> install.
> --
> Andre
> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
> FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
>
> "Jimmy!" <jimmyre@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
> news:OArxGkSjFHA.3972@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> Ahoy!
>>
>> Until upgrading to the full version, 64-bit was working fine (the trial
>> version, that is). Now that I have obtained the full version of it, it
>> won't boot up AT ALL! This is really starting to get at me since I have
>> bought a 250gb HDD dedicated to the x64 platform. I have tried
>> installing two different copies of x64 (one being my friends copy and the
>> other mine) onto 1. a partitioned hard drive; 2. a completely different
>> hard drive. What I don't understand is why the trial version ran fine and
>> the full version does not even boot! It just simply reboots after I
>> select it from the boot menu (ie, selecting which version of Windows to
>> run). I have an AMD 64-bit 3200 processor; 1GB RAM; ATI Radeon X800PRO
>> (overclocked in Windows 32-bit with ATI Tool); two Seagate Barracuda
>> 7200rpm HDD's (200gb/250gb); and an ASUS K8V SE Deluxe. I have no idea
>> as to what's going on. If it helps, I can get it to show a BSOD and
>> write that down to post here. Can anyone please help me?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> JimmY! :D
>>

>
>




Bill 07-20-2005 10:44 PM

Re: Cannot boot at all; not even safe mode.
 
My experiences with "repair" vs. "upgrade" installs on x64. Only done once
with each package on an ASUS A8n-SLI home built system, and your mileage may
vary.

AFAIK, the "upgrade" left prevous drivers in place and I experienced no
problems.

However, the "repair" wiped out non WHQL drivers if native x64 drivers were
available. If native x64 drivers are not available, it gave the non signed
message and prompted if I wanted to use the non signed driver anyway for
some devices, for others, it just left the device uninstalled. After
reinstalling the 6.39 NVIDIA package, most devices seemed to upgrade, others
refused until I pointed to the right location. As for the ATI catalyst 5.6
drivers, it left the current drivers in place, but it created a third device
(unknown device) under Display Adapter. I uninstalled the unknown device,
rebooted, and it never showed up again. Quite a mess really. On reboots
with the "repaired" install, numerous random errors popped up. The boot up
"check drives for errors" popped up everytime and would not go away even
though no errors were found. Avast 4.6 would not start after boot up.
Could not manually start either. Uninstalls, reinstalls, failed to get it
working again. I finally abandoned the "repair" and loaded a new image.

Both the "repair" and "upgrade" left left my third party Boot Manager,
BootMagic, in place, clean installs required the BootMagic rescue floppy to
locate the "home" partition and to re-enable BootMagic.

I found a big difference between the "repair" vs. "upgrade" paths. I will
only use the repair option to recover any data on that partition and then
proceed with a clean install or reimage.

As I said in the beginning, your mileage may vary, just my experience.

Bill Sharpe

""Darrell Gorter[MSFT]"" <Darrellg@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:k92AavVjFHA.588@TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl...
> Hello Jimmy,
> Yes the bsod error would be helpful.
> Something changed on the system since it used to work with the trial and
> now it doesn't.
> What exactly do you mean by trial?
> If you mean the evaluation version that has been available to download for
> the past couple of months, then there is nothing significantly different
> that would change installation behavior.
> If by trial, you mean one of the beta versions, then there would be code
> changes that could affect this.
> What happens if the ATI card is not overclocked?
> Thanks,
> Darrell Gorter[MSFT]
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights
> --------------------
> <From: "Jimmy!" <jimmyre@tpg.com.au>
> <Subject: Cannot boot at all; not even safe mode.
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Jimmy! 07-22-2005 01:57 AM

Re: Cannot boot at all; not even safe mode.
 
Thanks for all your responses. So far, I have wiped the hard
drive/partition around 3 times and reinstalled x64. Also, the graphics card
is not PERMANENTLY overclocked. ATI Tool overclocks it at startup once
Windows is running. The BSOD error message is this:

***STOP:0x0000007B (0xFFFFFADFE480F3C0, 0xFFFFFFFFC0000034,
0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000)


""Darrell Gorter[MSFT]"" <Darrellg@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:k92AavVjFHA.588@TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl...
> Hello Jimmy,
> Yes the bsod error would be helpful.
> Something changed on the system since it used to work with the trial and
> now it doesn't.
> What exactly do you mean by trial?
> If you mean the evaluation version that has been available to download for
> the past couple of months, then there is nothing significantly different
> that would change installation behavior.
> If by trial, you mean one of the beta versions, then there would be code
> changes that could affect this.
> What happens if the ATI card is not overclocked?
> Thanks,
> Darrell Gorter[MSFT]
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights
> --------------------
> <From: "Jimmy!" <jimmyre@tpg.com.au>
> <Subject: Cannot boot at all; not even safe mode.
> <Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 22:16:12 +0930
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> <Ahoy!
> <
> <Until upgrading to the full version, 64-bit was working fine (the trial
> <version, that is). Now that I have obtained the full version of it, it
> <won't boot up AT ALL! This is really starting to get at me since I have
> <bought a 250gb HDD dedicated to the x64 platform. I have tried
> installing
> <two different copies of x64 (one being my friends copy and the other
> mine)
> <onto 1. a partitioned hard drive; 2. a completely different hard drive.
> <What I don't understand is why the trial version ran fine and the full
> <version does not even boot! It just simply reboots after I select it
> from
> <the boot menu (ie, selecting which version of Windows to run). I have an
> <AMD 64-bit 3200 processor; 1GB RAM; ATI Radeon X800PRO (overclocked in
> <Windows 32-bit with ATI Tool); two Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm HDD's
> <(200gb/250gb); and an ASUS K8V SE Deluxe. I have no idea as to what's
> going
> <on. If it helps, I can get it to show a BSOD and write that down to post
> <here. Can anyone please help me?
> <
> <Thanks in advance,
> <
> <JimmY! :D
> <
> <
> <
>




John Barnes 07-22-2005 03:36 AM

Re: Cannot boot at all; not even safe mode.
 
This might give you some items to consider
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;324103

"Jimmy!" <jimmyre@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
news:Oq8R3CmjFHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Thanks for all your responses. So far, I have wiped the hard
> drive/partition around 3 times and reinstalled x64. Also, the graphics
> card
> is not PERMANENTLY overclocked. ATI Tool overclocks it at startup once
> Windows is running. The BSOD error message is this:
>
> ***STOP:0x0000007B (0xFFFFFADFE480F3C0, 0xFFFFFFFFC0000034,
> 0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000)
>
>
> ""Darrell Gorter[MSFT]"" <Darrellg@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:k92AavVjFHA.588@TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl...
>> Hello Jimmy,
>> Yes the bsod error would be helpful.
>> Something changed on the system since it used to work with the trial and
>> now it doesn't.
>> What exactly do you mean by trial?
>> If you mean the evaluation version that has been available to download
>> for
>> the past couple of months, then there is nothing significantly different
>> that would change installation behavior.
>> If by trial, you mean one of the beta versions, then there would be code
>> changes that could affect this.
>> What happens if the ATI card is not overclocked?
>> Thanks,
>> Darrell Gorter[MSFT]
>>
>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>> rights
>> --------------------
>> <From: "Jimmy!" <jimmyre@tpg.com.au>
>> <Subject: Cannot boot at all; not even safe mode.
>> <Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 22:16:12 +0930
>> <Lines: 22
>> <X-Priority: 3
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>> <
>> <Ahoy!
>> <
>> <Until upgrading to the full version, 64-bit was working fine (the trial
>> <version, that is). Now that I have obtained the full version of it, it
>> <won't boot up AT ALL! This is really starting to get at me since I have
>> <bought a 250gb HDD dedicated to the x64 platform. I have tried
>> installing
>> <two different copies of x64 (one being my friends copy and the other
>> mine)
>> <onto 1. a partitioned hard drive; 2. a completely different hard drive.
>> <What I don't understand is why the trial version ran fine and the full
>> <version does not even boot! It just simply reboots after I select it
>> from
>> <the boot menu (ie, selecting which version of Windows to run). I have
>> an
>> <AMD 64-bit 3200 processor; 1GB RAM; ATI Radeon X800PRO (overclocked in
>> <Windows 32-bit with ATI Tool); two Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm HDD's
>> <(200gb/250gb); and an ASUS K8V SE Deluxe. I have no idea as to what's
>> going
>> <on. If it helps, I can get it to show a BSOD and write that down to
>> post
>> <here. Can anyone please help me?
>> <
>> <Thanks in advance,
>> <
>> <JimmY! :D
>> <
>> <
>> <
>>

>
>





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