Changing the motherboard WITHOUT reinstalling windows?
 

Hello.

My brother has fried a chip on his motherboard:
http://blades.dk/pub/865Gone.jpg

The motherboard is an MSI 865G Neo2 PLS.

He can't find the card for sale anymore, so he was wondering if
there are any cards that he could substitute for it, WITHOUT
having to reinstall windows in any way.

I read that there is a chance of just that, with motherboards
that have the same chipset. All you would have to do was reboot
into safe mode, then reboot, and it just might be fine.

Which cards have the same chipset? Any 865G cards?
Incidentally, is that the very chip that he fried?:
http://blades.dk/pub/865G.jpg

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Re: Changing the motherboard WITHOUT reinstalling windows?
 

Thomas Hejl Pilgaard wrote:
> Hello.
>
> My brother has fried a chip on his motherboard:
> http://blades.dk/pub/865Gone.jpg
>
> The motherboard is an MSI 865G Neo2 PLS.
>
> He can't find the card for sale anymore, so he was wondering if
> there are any cards that he could substitute for it, WITHOUT
> having to reinstall windows in any way.
>
> I read that there is a chance of just that, with motherboards
> that have the same chipset. All you would have to do was reboot
> into safe mode, then reboot, and it just might be fine.
>
> Which cards have the same chipset? Any 865G cards?
> Incidentally, is that the very chip that he fried?:
> http://blades.dk/pub/865G.jpg

I've swapped out motherboards more times than I can remember, and never
gave a thought to trying get the same chipset. XP is very good at
sensing new hardware and installing the right drivers. Once you've let
it go through the first set of sensing and installing drivers, pop in
the disk that comes with the motherboard and install the mfg's drivers.
Ain't no big deal. Double check in Device Manager that it got them all.

Re: Changing the motherboard WITHOUT reinstalling windows?
 

"Rôgêr" <abuse@your.isp.com> wrote in message
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> Ain't no big deal. Double check in Device Manager that it got them all.

Not come across "INNACCESABLE_BOOT_DEVICE" blue screen yet then?

Dan





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Re: Changing the motherboard WITHOUT reinstalling windows?
 

Presumably this means there is no winxp cd?
Tried Ebay or similar for used mobo?

"Thomas Hejl Pilgaard" <pilgaard@tele2adsl.dk.dk> wrote in message
news:fUrng.17$om1.1@news.get2net.dk...
> Hello.
>
> My brother has fried a chip on his motherboard:
> http://blades.dk/pub/865Gone.jpg
>
> The motherboard is an MSI 865G Neo2 PLS.
>
> He can't find the card for sale anymore, so he was wondering if
> there are any cards that he could substitute for it, WITHOUT
> having to reinstall windows in any way.
>
> I read that there is a chance of just that, with motherboards
> that have the same chipset. All you would have to do was reboot
> into safe mode, then reboot, and it just might be fine.
>
> Which cards have the same chipset? Any 865G cards?
> Incidentally, is that the very chip that he fried?:
> http://blades.dk/pub/865G.jpg
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ ______
> / Thomas Hejl Pilgaard | If you understand what | /\ /\ \
> / Ostenfeldtsvej 8c 2 tv | you're doing, you're | ^ ^ \
> \ 4700 Naestved, Denmark | not learning anything. | = @ = /
> ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
>
>

Re: Changing the motherboard WITHOUT reinstalling windows?
 

Dan Evans wrote:
> "Rôgêr" <abuse@your.isp.com> wrote in message
> news:TbWdnYIG-q_FEgPZnZ2dnUVZ_rGdnZ2d@pghconnect.com...
>
>> Ain't no big deal. Double check in Device Manager that it got them
>> all.
>
> Not come across "INNACCESABLE_BOOT_DEVICE" blue screen yet then?
>
>
Or the reboot reboot reboot reboot syndrome?

I've never been able to swap out a motherboard with a dissimilar model and
have it work with XP. On W9x systems, yes. But not XP. Even a repair install
of Windows hasn't worked well for me.

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Re: Changing the motherboard WITHOUT reinstalling windows?
 

Thomas Hejl Pilgaard wrote:

> Hello.
>
> My brother has fried a chip on his motherboard:
> http://blades.dk/pub/865Gone.jpg
>
> The motherboard is an MSI 865G Neo2 PLS.
>
> He can't find the card for sale anymore, so he was wondering if
> there are any cards that he could substitute for it, WITHOUT
> having to reinstall windows in any way.
>
Works fine with win3.1, except there is a little issue with availability of
harddrives ;-)
Btw. which version is your brother using?

> I read that there is a chance of just that, with motherboards
> that have the same chipset. All you would have to do was reboot
> into safe mode, then reboot, and it just might be fine.
>
Not with a OEM version of XP. It will want to be "reactivated" but the OEM
key doesn't permit that.

> Which cards have the same chipset? Any 865G cards?
> Incidentally, is that the very chip that he fried?:

Another question is how the chip got fried - it can as well be a bad power
supply or a shortcircuit elsewhere (not on the mobo).
You can try almost any mainboard with linux these days, if availability of a
legal windows is a problem.
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Re: Changing the motherboard WITHOUT reinstalling windows?
 

Toolman Tim wrote:
> Dan Evans wrote:
>
>>"Rôgêr" <abuse@your.isp.com> wrote in message
>>news:TbWdnYIG-q_FEgPZnZ2dnUVZ_rGdnZ2d@pghconnect.com...
>>
>>
>>>Ain't no big deal. Double check in Device Manager that it got them
>>>all.
>>
>>Not come across "INNACCESABLE_BOOT_DEVICE" blue screen yet then?
>>
>>
>
> Or the reboot reboot reboot reboot syndrome?
>
> I've never been able to swap out a motherboard with a dissimilar model and
> have it work with XP. On W9x systems, yes. But not XP. Even a repair install
> of Windows hasn't worked well for me.
>
Guess I've been lucky, eh? Seriously, I've done this over and over and
.... rarely had any problem whatsoever. Windows will want permission to
install a shitload of drivers, I let it, then install the drivers from
the motherboard's driver disk. Works great for me.

Re: Changing the motherboard WITHOUT reinstalling windows?
 

Toolman Tim wrote:

.....
> I've never been able to swap out a motherboard with a dissimilar model and
> have it work with XP. On W9x systems, yes. But not XP. Even a repair
> install of Windows hasn't worked well for me.
>
*Sometimes* it works (except the reactivation issue) when you know
*beforehand* and install the new chipset drivers from the mobo cd _before_
you swap the board.
Unfortunately most reasons for swapping boards don't give that chance ;-/.
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Re: Changing the motherboard WITHOUT reinstalling windows?
 

Walter Mautner wrote:
> Toolman Tim wrote:
>
> ....
>> I've never been able to swap out a motherboard with a dissimilar
>> model and have it work with XP. On W9x systems, yes. But not XP.
>> Even a repair install of Windows hasn't worked well for me.
>>
> *Sometimes* it works (except the reactivation issue) when you know
> *beforehand* and install the new chipset drivers from the mobo cd
> _before_ you swap the board.
> Unfortunately most reasons for swapping boards don't give that chance
> ;-/.

Yeah - most of the time for me I'm repairing way old systems. I'm just lucky
to find boards that still run Athlon XP 1700+ CPUs and SDRAM or such: I'll
take any mobo I can find <g>

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When I was a child, I remember my Mom telling me, "Son, when you grow
up, you can marry any girl you please." When I became a young man, I
learned the sad fact was that I could not please any of them.

Re: Changing the motherboard WITHOUT reinstalling windows?
 

Toolman Tim wrote:

> Or the reboot reboot reboot reboot syndrome?

Those are always fun.

> I've never been able to swap out a motherboard with a dissimilar model and
> have it work with XP. On W9x systems, yes. But not XP. Even a repair install
> of Windows hasn't worked well for me.

I haven't the foggiest idea why a repair install doesn't work for you.
but then again, I don't know what the original board was or what you
replaced it with... Ah well, to each his own.


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> When I was a child, I remember my Mom telling me, "Son, when you grow
> up, you can marry any girl you please." When I became a young man, I
> learned the sad fact was that I could not please any of them.

A lesson well learned. :)

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