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Larry Smith 04-23-2006 01:55 AM

is this a fraudulent email?
 
I received the following from service@paypal.com
================================================== =
This is an automated notification. The credit card used on your PayPal
account could not be processed successfully by our system. As a
result,
your account will not be available until a working credit card has
been
entered.

=========================================
ACCOUNT INFORMATION:
=========================================

Account name: (my name was here)
Registered Email: (my-email address was here)

Processing Attempted: SUB6MONTH (Free of charge)
Date Attempted: 04/21/2006

Result Code: [499] CARD IS INVALID - PLEASE USE A DEBIT CARD OR
CONFIRM CARD STATUS WITH ISSUING BANK

=========================================

NOTE: As a security measure, when a card is not successfully processed
for any reason, all card information is cleared off the account. You
will need to have your full credit card information handy when you
attempt to set up the subscription again.

Please make sure that the credit card has sufficient funds available,
and then visit your account management page to add the card
information
again:

http://www.paypal.com.f-webscr-rz.info

If you continue to have problems getting the SUB6MONTH set up, we
recommend contacting your credit card company to make sure:
- You are entering information that matches.
- The card is not blocked or restricted from online charges or website
usage.

=========================================


Please do not reply to this email. This mailbox is not monitored and
you will not receive a response. For assistance, log in to your PayPal
account and click the Help link located in the top right corner of any
PayPal page.

================================================== ==========

I went directly to paypal (of course not clicking on the links in the
email) and did not see anything amiss.
Does anyone recognize this as a fraudulent email?

TIA


--
Larry Smith

"In this country anyone can grow up to be President.
That's the risk you take."
Adlai Stevenson

Duane Arnold 04-23-2006 02:07 AM

Re: is this a fraudulent email?
 
Larry Smith wrote:
> I received the following from service@paypal.com
>
> I went directly to paypal (of course not clicking on the links in the
> email) and did not see anything amiss.
> Does anyone recognize this as a fraudulent email?
>


Why would you ask such a question posting it to a NG?

Why don't you go to the horse's mouth or contact Pay Pal and ask them?

Pay Pal is who you should be asking officially about the email and not
some NG.

Duane :)

Jimchip 04-23-2006 02:14 AM

Re: is this a fraudulent email?
 
On 2006-04-23, Larry Smith <dr4sight-no-spam@hvi.net> wrote:
> I received the following from service@paypal.com


It's a fraud. Send the email, including headers to your ISP or learn to send
abuse reports (larts) yourself.

'phishing' is the current term for frauds like that. 'spoofing' is a more
generic term that covers other fakes (like email headers, etc.)

--
Companies like paypal or your bank or anyone you do business with *never*
send emails like that.



Evan Platt 04-23-2006 02:35 AM

Re: is this a fraudulent email?
 
On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 01:55:36 GMT, Larry Smith
<dr4sight-no-spam@hvi.net> wrote:

>I received the following from service@paypal.com


<SNIP>

>http://www.paypal.com.f-webscr-rz.info


Unless paypal bought f-webscr-rz.info ... No.
--
To reply, remove TheObvious from my e-mail address.

Mara 04-23-2006 02:53 AM

Re: is this a fraudulent email?
 
On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 01:55:36 GMT, Larry Smith <dr4sight-no-spam@hvi.net> wrote:

>I received the following from service@paypal.com
>================================================= ==


It didn't come from Paypal. It came from Yahoo, and it's a phish.

http://www.antiphishing.org/

<snip>

--
<Prowler> AB, do you know how to speak to the dead yet?
<AB> ...
<AB> Prowler: Yes. It's part of RCN Abuse training.

Mitch 04-23-2006 03:10 AM

Re: is this a fraudulent email?
 
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In article <ihnl42h6khshes9n94c4cdr6814n3sn5c0@4ax.com>, Larry Smith
<dr4sight-no-spam@hvi.net> wrote:

> I went directly to paypal (of course not clicking on the links in the
> email) and did not see anything amiss.
> Does anyone recognize this as a fraudulent email?


You did the right thing here:
while many companies will notify you of a bad charge via e-mail, you
should be able to see the exact same thing going to the site.

If you don't, it was fraudulent.

You can see what they faked -- they used a dot instead of slash in the
URL. You weren't going to go to paypal.com, you were going to be taken
to f-webscr-rz.info!

You can also check the raw source of the message to see where a labeled
link will point, but in this case it is given right in the URL.

Plato 04-23-2006 04:26 AM

Re: is this a fraudulent email?
 
Larry Smith wrote:
>
> I received the following from service@paypal.com


1. Paypal only sends emails to it's users via plain text.
2. Paypal will send it to your real name.
3. Set your email program to read only plain text files and ignore any
html email from "paypal"



--
http://www.bootdisk.com/


Jimchip 04-23-2006 05:50 AM

Re: is this a fraudulent email?
 
On 2006-04-23, Plato <|@|.|> wrote:
> Larry Smith wrote:
>>
>> I received the following from service@paypal.com

>
> 1. Paypal only sends emails to it's users via plain text.
> 2. Paypal will send it to your real name.
> 3. Set your email program to read only plain text files and ignore any
> html email from "paypal"


Paypal or anyone one else 'like them' is not going to ask you for your
account information- plain text or html. They already have your account
information.

--
You wouldn't get an email if they had 'lost' your account

The Old Sourdough 04-23-2006 11:25 AM

Re: is this a fraudulent email?
 
Jimchip rambled on in 24hoursupport.helpdesk:

snip
>
> Paypal or anyone one else 'like them' is not going to ask you for your
> account information- plain text or html. They already have your account
> information.
>


Ah, but they're not *asking* for the details (snicker), they're asking you
to "confirm" (haha) the details. :-)



--
The Old Sourdough
"Dad," said Little Johnny, "I'm late for football practice. Would you
please do my homework for me?"
Little Johnny's father said, "Son, it just wouldn't be right."
"That's okay," replied Little Johnny "You could at least give it a try,
couldn't you?"


Jimchip 04-23-2006 01:51 PM

Re: is this a fraudulent email?
 
On 2006-04-23, The Old Sourdough <senile@all.times> wrote:
> Jimchip rambled on in 24hoursupport.helpdesk:
>
> snip
>>
>> Paypal or anyone one else 'like them' is not going to ask you for your
>> account information- plain text or html. They already have your account
>> information.
>>

>
> Ah, but they're not *asking* for the details (snicker), they're asking you
> to "confirm" (haha) the details. :-)


"Sneaky Devils" :)

--
'Nigerian 419' seems almost civilized, relatively speaking.


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