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tony 10-13-2006 11:42 PM

uplinks and trunks
 
I want to setup my uplinks from all my 4503s to my core 4506 as trunk links.
We are not on any vlans yet just a flat layer 2 for now.

Are there any problems with this?



Walter Roberson 10-14-2006 02:32 AM

Re: uplinks and trunks
 
In article <egp88k$nl5$1@news.Stanford.EDU>, tony <none@none.com> wrote:
>I want to setup my uplinks from all my 4503s to my core 4506 as trunk links.
>We are not on any vlans yet just a flat layer 2 for now.


>Are there any problems with this?


If there was something you did not understand in my previous answer
(the third time you'd asked the same question) then indicate the
specific portion you had questions about and we will provide
clarification.

BernieM 10-14-2006 04:10 AM

Re: uplinks and trunks
 

"tony" <none@none.com> wrote in message
news:egp88k$nl5$1@news.Stanford.EDU...
>I want to setup my uplinks from all my 4503s to my core 4506 as trunk
>links. We are not on any vlans yet just a flat layer 2 for now.
>
> Are there any problems with this?
>


While not attempting to be complete, here's a few things to do:

1) use 'switchport nonegotiate'
2) assign 'switchport trunk native vlan <vlan id> to be a separate vlan
dedicated for this across all trunks that doesn't contain any hosts
3) use "udld port aggressive"
4) don't use vtp. configure all switches as transparent but configure a
common vtp domain. This gets debated but generally agreed if your
environment is fairly static.
5) only trunk vlans that are needed and only have vlans that are needed on
the switches.
6) define a template for common config components and make it policy it
gets used on all trunk ports

BernieM





tony 10-16-2006 04:45 PM

Re: uplinks and trunks
 
I remember setting this command on one of my cisco 3750 switches.

switchport trunk native vlan2 on the uplink port and I ended up losing all
connectivity to the hosts connected to this 3750. By default All ports are
on vlan1. So If i suddenly set uplink port to vlan2, I will have problems
right?




"BernieM" <c@fight.com> wrote in message
news:8rZXg.46741$rP1.10224@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
> "tony" <none@none.com> wrote in message
> news:egp88k$nl5$1@news.Stanford.EDU...
>>I want to setup my uplinks from all my 4503s to my core 4506 as trunk
>>links. We are not on any vlans yet just a flat layer 2 for now.
>>
>> Are there any problems with this?
>>

>
> While not attempting to be complete, here's a few things to do:
>
> 1) use 'switchport nonegotiate'
> 2) assign 'switchport trunk native vlan <vlan id> to be a separate vlan
> dedicated for this across all trunks that doesn't contain any hosts
> 3) use "udld port aggressive"
> 4) don't use vtp. configure all switches as transparent but configure a
> common vtp domain. This gets debated but generally agreed if your
> environment is fairly static.
> 5) only trunk vlans that are needed and only have vlans that are needed
> on the switches.
> 6) define a template for common config components and make it policy it
> gets used on all trunk ports
>
> BernieM
>
>
>
>




BernieM 10-17-2006 07:30 AM

Re: uplinks and trunks
 
>
> "BernieM" <c@fight.com> wrote in message
> news:8rZXg.46741$rP1.10224@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>
>> "tony" <none@none.com> wrote in message
>> news:egp88k$nl5$1@news.Stanford.EDU...
>>>I want to setup my uplinks from all my 4503s to my core 4506 as trunk
>>>links. We are not on any vlans yet just a flat layer 2 for now.
>>>
>>> Are there any problems with this?
>>>

>>
>> While not attempting to be complete, here's a few things to do:
>>
>> 1) use 'switchport nonegotiate'
>> 2) assign 'switchport trunk native vlan <vlan id> to be a separate vlan
>> dedicated for this across all trunks that doesn't contain any hosts
>> 3) use "udld port aggressive"
>> 4) don't use vtp. configure all switches as transparent but configure a
>> common vtp domain. This gets debated but generally agreed if your
>> environment is fairly static.
>> 5) only trunk vlans that are needed and only have vlans that are needed
>> on the switches.
>> 6) define a template for common config components and make it policy it
>> gets used on all trunk ports
>>
>> BernieM
>>


"tony" <none@none.com> wrote in message
news:eh0cuq$f3t$1@news.Stanford.EDU...
>I remember setting this command on one of my cisco 3750 switches.
>
> switchport trunk native vlan2 on the uplink port and I ended up losing all
> connectivity to the hosts connected to this 3750. By default All ports are
> on vlan1. So If i suddenly set uplink port to vlan2, I will have problems
> right?
>
>

Changing uplinks from access to trunking is going to cause spanning-tree
reconvergence so there is going to be a period of connectivity loss but if
you have all the correct settings at both ends things should come back. You
can't expect to do this during production time.

BernieM



tony 10-18-2006 06:48 PM

Re: uplinks and trunks
 
how can i configure one uplink as a trunk? Also do I have to set all the
other switches uplinks to trunk as well or can be done anytime?
"BernieM" <c@fight.com> wrote in message
news:iE%Yg.48598$rP1.40813@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> >
>> "BernieM" <c@fight.com> wrote in message
>> news:8rZXg.46741$rP1.10224@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>
>>> "tony" <none@none.com> wrote in message
>>> news:egp88k$nl5$1@news.Stanford.EDU...
>>>>I want to setup my uplinks from all my 4503s to my core 4506 as trunk
>>>>links. We are not on any vlans yet just a flat layer 2 for now.
>>>>
>>>> Are there any problems with this?
>>>>
>>>
>>> While not attempting to be complete, here's a few things to do:
>>>
>>> 1) use 'switchport nonegotiate'
>>> 2) assign 'switchport trunk native vlan <vlan id> to be a separate vlan
>>> dedicated for this across all trunks that doesn't contain any hosts
>>> 3) use "udld port aggressive"
>>> 4) don't use vtp. configure all switches as transparent but configure
>>> a common vtp domain. This gets debated but generally agreed if your
>>> environment is fairly static.
>>> 5) only trunk vlans that are needed and only have vlans that are needed
>>> on the switches.
>>> 6) define a template for common config components and make it policy it
>>> gets used on all trunk ports
>>>
>>> BernieM
>>>

>
> "tony" <none@none.com> wrote in message
> news:eh0cuq$f3t$1@news.Stanford.EDU...
>>I remember setting this command on one of my cisco 3750 switches.
>>
>> switchport trunk native vlan2 on the uplink port and I ended up losing
>> all connectivity to the hosts connected to this 3750. By default All
>> ports are on vlan1. So If i suddenly set uplink port to vlan2, I will
>> have problems right?
>>
>>

> Changing uplinks from access to trunking is going to cause spanning-tree
> reconvergence so there is going to be a period of connectivity loss but if
> you have all the correct settings at both ends things should come back.
> You can't expect to do this during production time.
>
> BernieM
>




BernieM 10-18-2006 08:15 PM

Re: uplinks and trunks
 

> "BernieM" <c@fight.com> wrote in message
> news:iE%Yg.48598$rP1.40813@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>> >
>>> "BernieM" <c@fight.com> wrote in message
>>> news:8rZXg.46741$rP1.10224@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>>
>>>> "tony" <none@none.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:egp88k$nl5$1@news.Stanford.EDU...
>>>>>I want to setup my uplinks from all my 4503s to my core 4506 as trunk
>>>>>links. We are not on any vlans yet just a flat layer 2 for now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are there any problems with this?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> While not attempting to be complete, here's a few things to do:
>>>>
>>>> 1) use 'switchport nonegotiate'
>>>> 2) assign 'switchport trunk native vlan <vlan id> to be a separate
>>>> vlan dedicated for this across all trunks that doesn't contain any
>>>> hosts
>>>> 3) use "udld port aggressive"
>>>> 4) don't use vtp. configure all switches as transparent but configure
>>>> a common vtp domain. This gets debated but generally agreed if your
>>>> environment is fairly static.
>>>> 5) only trunk vlans that are needed and only have vlans that are
>>>> needed on the switches.
>>>> 6) define a template for common config components and make it policy
>>>> it gets used on all trunk ports
>>>>
>>>> BernieM
>>>>

>>
>> "tony" <none@none.com> wrote in message
>> news:eh0cuq$f3t$1@news.Stanford.EDU...
>>>I remember setting this command on one of my cisco 3750 switches.
>>>
>>> switchport trunk native vlan2 on the uplink port and I ended up losing
>>> all connectivity to the hosts connected to this 3750. By default All
>>> ports are on vlan1. So If i suddenly set uplink port to vlan2, I will
>>> have problems right?
>>>
>>>

>> Changing uplinks from access to trunking is going to cause spanning-tree
>> reconvergence so there is going to be a period of connectivity loss but
>> if you have all the correct settings at both ends things should come
>> back. You can't expect to do this during production time.
>>
>> BernieM
>>

>
>

"tony" <none@none.com> wrote in message
news:eh5sta$f7h$1@news.Stanford.EDU...
> how can i configure one uplink as a trunk? Also do I have to set all the
> other switches uplinks to trunk as well or can be done anytime?


You apply the configuration settings as mentioned previously. Apply
"switchport mode trunk" last as that actually changes the mode from access
to trunk and is when other 'switchport trunk' entries get applied.

Links between switches are fairly independent of each other so, yes, you can
do one first and others when ever.

BernieM



tony 10-18-2006 08:36 PM

Re: uplinks and trunks
 
I dont quite understand this one

2) assign 'switchport trunk native vlan <vlan id> to be a separate vlan
dedicated for this across all trunks that doesn't contain any hosts


So far no hosts on this switch yet but I want to start plugging in the
hosts. All ports on vlan1


so far I have on uplink gigabit 1/1

switchport trunk encapsulation dot1q
switchport mode trunk
udld port aggressive


What about the other end of the the link. The other end of this switch is a
non cisco switch.




"BernieM" <c@fight.com> wrote in message
news:1YvZg.49398$rP1.16994@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
>> "BernieM" <c@fight.com> wrote in message
>> news:iE%Yg.48598$rP1.40813@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>> >
>>>> "BernieM" <c@fight.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:8rZXg.46741$rP1.10224@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>>>
>>>>> "tony" <none@none.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:egp88k$nl5$1@news.Stanford.EDU...
>>>>>>I want to setup my uplinks from all my 4503s to my core 4506 as trunk
>>>>>>links. We are not on any vlans yet just a flat layer 2 for now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are there any problems with this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> While not attempting to be complete, here's a few things to do:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) use 'switchport nonegotiate'
>>>>> 2) assign 'switchport trunk native vlan <vlan id> to be a separate
>>>>> vlan dedicated for this across all trunks that doesn't contain any
>>>>> hosts
>>>>> 3) use "udld port aggressive"
>>>>> 4) don't use vtp. configure all switches as transparent but
>>>>> configure a common vtp domain. This gets debated but generally agreed
>>>>> if your environment is fairly static.
>>>>> 5) only trunk vlans that are needed and only have vlans that are
>>>>> needed on the switches.
>>>>> 6) define a template for common config components and make it policy
>>>>> it gets used on all trunk ports
>>>>>
>>>>> BernieM
>>>>>
>>>
>>> "tony" <none@none.com> wrote in message
>>> news:eh0cuq$f3t$1@news.Stanford.EDU...
>>>>I remember setting this command on one of my cisco 3750 switches.
>>>>
>>>> switchport trunk native vlan2 on the uplink port and I ended up losing
>>>> all connectivity to the hosts connected to this 3750. By default All
>>>> ports are on vlan1. So If i suddenly set uplink port to vlan2, I will
>>>> have problems right?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Changing uplinks from access to trunking is going to cause spanning-tree
>>> reconvergence so there is going to be a period of connectivity loss but
>>> if you have all the correct settings at both ends things should come
>>> back. You can't expect to do this during production time.
>>>
>>> BernieM
>>>

>>
>>

> "tony" <none@none.com> wrote in message
> news:eh5sta$f7h$1@news.Stanford.EDU...
>> how can i configure one uplink as a trunk? Also do I have to set all the
>> other switches uplinks to trunk as well or can be done anytime?

>
> You apply the configuration settings as mentioned previously. Apply
> "switchport mode trunk" last as that actually changes the mode from access
> to trunk and is when other 'switchport trunk' entries get applied.
>
> Links between switches are fairly independent of each other so, yes, you
> can do one first and others when ever.
>
> BernieM
>




tony 10-18-2006 08:46 PM

Re: uplinks and trunks
 
So if I am only running one Vlan in the entire network and I configure all
my switches uplinks to the core switch as trunks. Are there any issues with
this?


"tony" <none@none.com> wrote in message
news:eh638i$l3d$1@news.Stanford.EDU...
>I dont quite understand this one
>
> 2) assign 'switchport trunk native vlan <vlan id> to be a separate vlan
> dedicated for this across all trunks that doesn't contain any hosts
>
>
> So far no hosts on this switch yet but I want to start plugging in the
> hosts. All ports on vlan1
>
>
> so far I have on uplink gigabit 1/1
>
> switchport trunk encapsulation dot1q
> switchport mode trunk
> udld port aggressive
>
>
> What about the other end of the the link. The other end of this switch is
> a non cisco switch.
>
>
>
>
> "BernieM" <c@fight.com> wrote in message
> news:1YvZg.49398$rP1.16994@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>
>>> "BernieM" <c@fight.com> wrote in message
>>> news:iE%Yg.48598$rP1.40813@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>> >
>>>>> "BernieM" <c@fight.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:8rZXg.46741$rP1.10224@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "tony" <none@none.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:egp88k$nl5$1@news.Stanford.EDU...
>>>>>>>I want to setup my uplinks from all my 4503s to my core 4506 as trunk
>>>>>>>links. We are not on any vlans yet just a flat layer 2 for now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are there any problems with this?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> While not attempting to be complete, here's a few things to do:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) use 'switchport nonegotiate'
>>>>>> 2) assign 'switchport trunk native vlan <vlan id> to be a separate
>>>>>> vlan dedicated for this across all trunks that doesn't contain any
>>>>>> hosts
>>>>>> 3) use "udld port aggressive"
>>>>>> 4) don't use vtp. configure all switches as transparent but
>>>>>> configure a common vtp domain. This gets debated but generally
>>>>>> agreed if your environment is fairly static.
>>>>>> 5) only trunk vlans that are needed and only have vlans that are
>>>>>> needed on the switches.
>>>>>> 6) define a template for common config components and make it policy
>>>>>> it gets used on all trunk ports
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BernieM
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "tony" <none@none.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:eh0cuq$f3t$1@news.Stanford.EDU...
>>>>>I remember setting this command on one of my cisco 3750 switches.
>>>>>
>>>>> switchport trunk native vlan2 on the uplink port and I ended up losing
>>>>> all connectivity to the hosts connected to this 3750. By default All
>>>>> ports are on vlan1. So If i suddenly set uplink port to vlan2, I will
>>>>> have problems right?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Changing uplinks from access to trunking is going to cause
>>>> spanning-tree reconvergence so there is going to be a period of
>>>> connectivity loss but if you have all the correct settings at both ends
>>>> things should come back. You can't expect to do this during production
>>>> time.
>>>>
>>>> BernieM
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>> "tony" <none@none.com> wrote in message
>> news:eh5sta$f7h$1@news.Stanford.EDU...
>>> how can i configure one uplink as a trunk? Also do I have to set all the
>>> other switches uplinks to trunk as well or can be done anytime?

>>
>> You apply the configuration settings as mentioned previously. Apply
>> "switchport mode trunk" last as that actually changes the mode from
>> access to trunk and is when other 'switchport trunk' entries get applied.
>>
>> Links between switches are fairly independent of each other so, yes, you
>> can do one first and others when ever.
>>
>> BernieM
>>

>
>




tony 10-20-2006 06:11 PM

Re: uplinks and trunks
 
BernieM

can you elaborate on this

6) define a template for common config components and make it policy it
gets used on all trunk ports


"tony" <none@none.com> wrote in message
news:eh63r5$li4$1@news.Stanford.EDU...
> So if I am only running one Vlan in the entire network and I configure all
> my switches uplinks to the core switch as trunks. Are there any issues
> with this?
>
>
> "tony" <none@none.com> wrote in message
> news:eh638i$l3d$1@news.Stanford.EDU...
>>I dont quite understand this one
>>
>> 2) assign 'switchport trunk native vlan <vlan id> to be a separate vlan
>> dedicated for this across all trunks that doesn't contain any hosts
>>
>>
>> So far no hosts on this switch yet but I want to start plugging in the
>> hosts. All ports on vlan1
>>
>>
>> so far I have on uplink gigabit 1/1
>>
>> switchport trunk encapsulation dot1q
>> switchport mode trunk
>> udld port aggressive
>>
>>
>> What about the other end of the the link. The other end of this switch
>> is a non cisco switch.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "BernieM" <c@fight.com> wrote in message
>> news:1YvZg.49398$rP1.16994@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>
>>>> "BernieM" <c@fight.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:iE%Yg.48598$rP1.40813@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>>> >
>>>>>> "BernieM" <c@fight.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:8rZXg.46741$rP1.10224@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "tony" <none@none.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:egp88k$nl5$1@news.Stanford.EDU...
>>>>>>>>I want to setup my uplinks from all my 4503s to my core 4506 as
>>>>>>>>trunk
>>>>>>>>links. We are not on any vlans yet just a flat layer 2 for now.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Are there any problems with this?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> While not attempting to be complete, here's a few things to do:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1) use 'switchport nonegotiate'
>>>>>>> 2) assign 'switchport trunk native vlan <vlan id> to be a separate
>>>>>>> vlan dedicated for this across all trunks that doesn't contain any
>>>>>>> hosts
>>>>>>> 3) use "udld port aggressive"
>>>>>>> 4) don't use vtp. configure all switches as transparent but
>>>>>>> configure a common vtp domain. This gets debated but generally
>>>>>>> agreed if your environment is fairly static.
>>>>>>> 5) only trunk vlans that are needed and only have vlans that are
>>>>>>> needed on the switches.
>>>>>>> 6) define a template for common config components and make it
>>>>>>> policy it gets used on all trunk ports
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BernieM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "tony" <none@none.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:eh0cuq$f3t$1@news.Stanford.EDU...
>>>>>>I remember setting this command on one of my cisco 3750 switches.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> switchport trunk native vlan2 on the uplink port and I ended up
>>>>>> losing all connectivity to the hosts connected to this 3750. By
>>>>>> default All ports are on vlan1. So If i suddenly set uplink port to
>>>>>> vlan2, I will have problems right?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Changing uplinks from access to trunking is going to cause
>>>>> spanning-tree reconvergence so there is going to be a period of
>>>>> connectivity loss but if you have all the correct settings at both
>>>>> ends things should come back. You can't expect to do this during
>>>>> production time.
>>>>>
>>>>> BernieM
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> "tony" <none@none.com> wrote in message
>>> news:eh5sta$f7h$1@news.Stanford.EDU...
>>>> how can i configure one uplink as a trunk? Also do I have to set all
>>>> the other switches uplinks to trunk as well or can be done anytime?
>>>
>>> You apply the configuration settings as mentioned previously. Apply
>>> "switchport mode trunk" last as that actually changes the mode from
>>> access to trunk and is when other 'switchport trunk' entries get
>>> applied.
>>>
>>> Links between switches are fairly independent of each other so, yes, you
>>> can do one first and others when ever.
>>>
>>> BernieM
>>>

>>
>>

>
>





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