Dreaded 3-pixel padding in Internet Explorer
 

- Web Site: http://www.sanctuarydown.com

I've been learning HTML coding and while building a website, I noticed
a problem exclusive to Internet Explorer.

The IE web browser automatically adds a 3 pixel padding to the bottom
and right side of images on my pages, causing them to not align
properly. I cannot seem to turn this off with any sort of conventional
HTML coding (margins and borders are turned off, set to zero), and
since I do not use CSS yet, I can't apply any of the fixes I've found
thusfar on the internet.

This 3-pixel padding is not a problem in Mozilla's Firefox browers or
Netscape's browser. It seems to only occur with IE.

As you can see by my page, perfect alignment of images is essential to
the layout. And since the vast majority of users have IE, I'd like this
page to look perfect in IE. Is there any way to shut off these
borders/margins/padding without distorting the page layout in other
browsers and without using the CSS fixes I've read about?

I'm brand new to this board, but it seems like a lot of people here are
quite skilled. I'm hoping someone can help.

Thanks!

Re: Dreaded 3-pixel padding in Internet Explorer
 

<spellbound571969@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1155481491.266599.254430@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>- Web Site: http://www.sanctuarydown.com
>

> As you can see by my page, perfect alignment of images is essential to
> the layout. And since the vast majority of users have IE, I'd like this
> page to look perfect in IE. Is there any way to shut off these
> borders/margins/padding without distorting the page layout in other
> browsers and without using the CSS fixes I've read about?


Hi, this problem has been discussed lots of times. Check out
http://www.positioniseverything.net/...reepxtest.html

--

David

Re: Dreaded 3-pixel padding in Internet Explorer
 

Believe it or not, I've read that page up and down several times in the
last week and it didn't help at all.
The reason being is the fixes they give are for pages using CSS. My
knowledge of CSS is limited so I haven't started using that yet. I'm
just trying to find a simple in-line (i believe that is the term) fix
for this problem.
Anyone else have any ideas?
p.s. Thank you so much for your help. I do appreciate it.



David Woods wrote:
> <spellbound571969@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1155481491.266599.254430@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> >- Web Site: http://www.sanctuarydown.com
> >
>
> > As you can see by my page, perfect alignment of images is essential to
> > the layout. And since the vast majority of users have IE, I'd like this
> > page to look perfect in IE. Is there any way to shut off these
> > borders/margins/padding without distorting the page layout in other
> > browsers and without using the CSS fixes I've read about?
>
>
> Hi, this problem has been discussed lots of times. Check out
> http://www.positioniseverything.net/...reepxtest.html
>
> --
>
> David

Re: Dreaded 3-pixel padding in Internet Explorer
 

Gazing into my crystal ball I observed "spellbound571969@yahoo.com"
<spellbound571969@yahoo.com> writing in
news:1155499214.465234.26780@74g2000cwt.googlegrou ps.com:

Please do not top post - see below
>
> David Woods wrote:
>> <spellbound571969@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1155481491.266599.254430@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>> >- Web Site: http://www.sanctuarydown.com
>> >
>>
>> > As you can see by my page, perfect alignment of images is essential
>> > to the layout. And since the vast majority of users have IE, I'd
>> > like this page to look perfect in IE. Is there any way to shut off
>> > these borders/margins/padding without distorting the page layout in
>> > other browsers and without using the CSS fixes I've read about?
>>
>>
>> Hi, this problem has been discussed lots of times. Check out
>> http://www.positioniseverything.net/...reepxtest.html
>>
> Believe it or not, I've read that page up and down several times in
> the last week and it didn't help at all.
> The reason being is the fixes they give are for pages using CSS. My
> knowledge of CSS is limited so I haven't started using that yet. I'm
> just trying to find a simple in-line (i believe that is the term) fix
> for this problem.
> Anyone else have any ideas?
> p.s. Thank you so much for your help. I do appreciate it.
>
>

Then it's time you started learning/using CSS. There are a few things
that only CSS can do, for example, change colors on hover, etc.


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Re: Dreaded 3-pixel padding in Internet Explorer
 

Thanks for all the info.
But I'm definitely not ready to jump into the CSS realm just yet. I'd
like to learn a little more of the basics and then move on to that.
I'm just hoping someone might know a trick or fix for this 3 pixel
problem using regular HTML.
Any ideas?

Re: Dreaded 3-pixel padding in Internet Explorer
 

spellbound571969@yahoo.com wrote:
> Thanks for all the info.
> But I'm definitely not ready to jump into the CSS realm just yet. I'd
> like to learn a little more of the basics and then move on to that.
> I'm just hoping someone might know a trick or fix for this 3 pixel
> problem using regular HTML.
> Any ideas?
>

TRANSLATION: "I don't want to learn anything about what I a doing I want
someone to do it for me"

ANSWERS:
1. Hire someone to do it for you
2. Stop using IE to view your site

BEST ANSWER: (I cannot help myself I have to include a really sincere
answer, and maybe you will get it) Take a little time and learn a little
bit about HTML and CSS. View some example sites, I am sure if asked in
earnest many here can provide you some and guide you along the way.

--
Take care,

Jonathan
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LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

Re: Dreaded 3-pixel padding in Internet Explorer
 

spellbound571969@yahoo.com wrote:

> I'm definitely not ready to jump into the CSS realm just yet.

Yes you are, it's easy. You've only got to follow some fairly simple
instructions for one specific bug. You've even managed to find them
already.

By far the best time to learn CSS is right at the beginning of learning
HTML. I teach it on something like the third short session of a
beginner's course.

Re: Dreaded 3-pixel padding in Internet Explorer
 

Wow. So basically this newsgroup is here so you can ridicule someone
who had a very small question? I do want to help myself, which is why
I'm not asking someone to build a site for me or fix it for me. I just
wondered if there was a simple HTML fix to this problem.

I can't believe the amount of grief I got for asking one small
question.

I apologize.

Re: Dreaded 3-pixel padding in Internet Explorer
 

Gazing into my crystal ball I observed "spellbound571969@yahoo.com"
<spellbound571969@yahoo.com> writing in news:1155908990.029094.124790
@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com:

> Wow. So basically this newsgroup is here so you can ridicule someone
> who had a very small question? I do want to help myself, which is why
> I'm not asking someone to build a site for me or fix it for me. I just
> wondered if there was a simple HTML fix to this problem.
>
> I can't believe the amount of grief I got for asking one small
> question.
>
> I apologize.
>

Please be present. All we have said here is that this is not an HTML
issue, it is a CSS issue, and therefore, you will have to address it
using CSS.


--
Adrienne Boswell at Home
Arbpen Web Site Design Services
http://www.cavalcade-of-coding.info
Please respond to the group so others can share

Re: Dreaded 3-pixel padding in Internet Explorer
 

spellbound571969@yahoo.com wrote:
> Wow. So basically this newsgroup is here so you can ridicule someone
> who had a very small question? I do want to help myself, which is why
> I'm not asking someone to build a site for me or fix it for me. I just
> wondered if there was a simple HTML fix to this problem.

Well eliminating the whitespace between the tags would help IE is
especially sensitive to it

<tr><td><img ... ></td></tr>


>
> I can't believe the amount of grief I got for asking one small
> question.

Unfortunately your main approach is wrong and that is why your are not
getting the response your expect. It is a kin to asking a group of
carpenters how to build your house with white paste and not nails and
screws. I am sure the response will be "Don't use paste use nails and
screws", and if you insist on paste you will be ignored or ridiculed.


>
> I apologize.
>

So don't apologize, just be a little more open to advice. Some here
actually *do* know what they are doing.

--
Take care,

Jonathan
-------------------
LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com