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Kevin Wainhouse 12-19-2003 09:17 PM

installing 2nd HDD
 
I'm having big problems installing a second hard drive on my system. The new
drive is 40GB-
jumper set to slave & installed on secondary ide socket (nothing else on
that socket)
Win 98 OS. Any advice appreciated re follows:

When I run fdisk, which option do I choose in response to 'Create DOS
partition or logical DOS partition' :

1. Create Primary DOS partition
2. Create extended dos partition
3. Create logical dos drivers in extended DOS partition.

I have run 1. ie 'Create primary dos partition' but I'm not sure it's
correct.

The problem is that when I attempt to format
the process is only 20% completed when mesage ''Trying to recover
allocation unit 255171''
flashes up and aborts after 10 minutes by when the 255171 has increased to
about 256000

I've tried to format a couple of times but always unsuccessful

The Hard disc drive is new (Maxtor) -

Any views / advice appreciated.

Kevin





DeMoN LaG 12-19-2003 09:39 PM

Re: installing 2nd HDD
 
"Kevin Wainhouse" <awba15390@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in
news:zVJEb.8024$C71.5144@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk:

> The problem is that when I attempt to format
> the process is only 20% completed when mesage ''Trying to recover
> allocation unit 255171''
> flashes up and aborts after 10 minutes by when the 255171 has
> increased to about 256000


Download Maxtor's software from their web site (it will create a boot
floppy) and run the diagnostic software, it sounds like the drive may be
DOA.

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Thor 12-19-2003 10:13 PM

Re: installing 2nd HDD
 
First of all, set the drive as master, if it's the only device on the
channel. Then try again.


...
"Kevin Wainhouse" <awba15390@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:zVJEb.8024$C71.5144@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk...
> I'm having big problems installing a second hard drive on my system. The

new
> drive is 40GB-
> jumper set to slave & installed on secondary ide socket (nothing else on
> that socket)
> Win 98 OS. Any advice appreciated re follows:
>
> When I run fdisk, which option do I choose in response to 'Create DOS
> partition or logical DOS partition' :
>
> 1. Create Primary DOS partition
> 2. Create extended dos partition
> 3. Create logical dos drivers in extended DOS partition.
>
> I have run 1. ie 'Create primary dos partition' but I'm not sure it's
> correct.
>
> The problem is that when I attempt to format
> the process is only 20% completed when mesage ''Trying to recover
> allocation unit 255171''
> flashes up and aborts after 10 minutes by when the 255171 has increased to
> about 256000
>
> I've tried to format a couple of times but always unsuccessful
>
> The Hard disc drive is new (Maxtor) -
>
> Any views / advice appreciated.
>
> Kevin
>
>
>
>




Wizard 12-19-2003 10:18 PM

Re: installing 2nd HDD
 


Kevin Wainhouse wrote:
>
> I'm having big problems installing a second hard drive on my system. The new
> drive is 40GB-
> jumper set to slave & installed on secondary ide socket (nothing else on
> that socket)


This is your problem.. If it is the only drive on the secondary
controller it needs to be set as master or single. To be a slave there
must be a master on the same controller.

> Win 98 OS. Any advice appreciated re follows:
>
> When I run fdisk, which option do I choose in response to 'Create DOS
> partition or logical DOS partition' :
>
> 1. Create Primary DOS partition
> 2. Create extended dos partition
> 3. Create logical dos drivers in extended DOS partition.
>
> I have run 1. ie 'Create primary dos partition' but I'm not sure it's
> correct.
>
> The problem is that when I attempt to format
> the process is only 20% completed when mesage ''Trying to recover
> allocation unit 255171''
> flashes up and aborts after 10 minutes by when the 255171 has increased to
> about 256000
>
> I've tried to format a couple of times but always unsuccessful
>
> The Hard disc drive is new (Maxtor) -
>
> Any views / advice appreciated.
>
> Kevin


DeMoN LaG 12-20-2003 02:18 AM

Re: installing 2nd HDD
 
Wizard <no@stinking.ads.com> wrote in
news:3FE3794C.939AB50A@stinking.ads.com:

> This is your problem.. If it is the only drive on the secondary
> controller it needs to be set as master or single. To be a slave there
> must be a master on the same controller.
>


Not entirely true, as many OEMs distribute CD drives as lone slaves on the
secondary channel. I ran that way after a DVD drive failed for the longest
time.

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Trent© 12-20-2003 02:46 AM

Re: installing 2nd HDD
 
On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 02:18:03 -0000, DeMoN LaG <n@a> wrote:

>Wizard <no@stinking.ads.com> wrote in
>news:3FE3794C.939AB50A@stinking.ads.com:
>
>> This is your problem.. If it is the only drive on the secondary
>> controller it needs to be set as master or single. To be a slave there
>> must be a master on the same controller.
>>

>
>Not entirely true, as many OEMs distribute CD drives as lone slaves on the
>secondary channel. I ran that way after a DVD drive failed for the longest
>time.


He was talkin' about the OP's hard drive, of course.



Wishing you and yours a happy holiday season...

Trent

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DeMoN LaG 12-20-2003 04:15 AM

Re: installing 2nd HDD
 
Trent© <trentsauder@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:etd7uv0u3l5cpqgfjcl2rj7j2r7kbn6j12@4ax.com:

> He was talkin' about the OP's hard drive, of course.


Yes, but my point is a device /can/ be a slave with no master.

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Trent© 12-20-2003 02:32 PM

Re: installing 2nd HDD
 
On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 04:15:33 -0000, DeMoN LaG <n@a> wrote:

>Trent© <trentsauder@hotmail.com> wrote in
>news:etd7uv0u3l5cpqgfjcl2rj7j2r7kbn6j12@4ax.com :
>
>> He was talkin' about the OP's hard drive, of course.

>
>Yes, but my point is a device /can/ be a slave with no master.


Only certain types of devices. And certainly not the type of device
he was talkin' about.



Wishing you and yours a happy holiday season...

Trent

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Thor 12-20-2003 03:29 PM

Re: installing 2nd HDD
 

"DeMoN LaG" <n@a> wrote in message
news:Xns9456D859221A8Wobbly@216.168.3.30...
> Wizard <no@stinking.ads.com> wrote in
> news:3FE3794C.939AB50A@stinking.ads.com:
>
> > This is your problem.. If it is the only drive on the secondary
> > controller it needs to be set as master or single. To be a slave there
> > must be a master on the same controller.
> >

>
> Not entirely true, as many OEMs distribute CD drives as lone slaves on the
> secondary channel. I ran that way after a DVD drive failed for the

longest
> time.


That seems to hold true for ATAPI devices alone. IDE harddrives are ATA
devices.
CD/DVD drives are ATAPI, which is slightly different with regards to how it
interfaces on the ATA/ATAPI bus. Harddrives will not (at least never in my
experiences) operate as a slave on a channel with no master present. CD/DVD
drives virtually always do. So do ATAPI tape drives, Zip drives, etc.






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