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Frank B. 01-29-2006 07:56 PM

AFTER Computers; What's Next?
 
Not being a true "computer guy" I'm not really sure how to ask this
question. Due to the fragility of todays computer networks and their
vulnerability to electro-magnetic pulses, among other things, is their
another radically different and more armored system out there on the
horizon? Some say it's a matter of time before an enemy of the U.S.
detonates a nuclear airburst above this country and fries every computer to
send us back to an agrarian society.



Duane Arnold 01-29-2006 08:31 PM

Re: AFTER Computers; What's Next?
 
Frank B. wrote:
> Not being a true "computer guy" I'm not really sure how to ask this
> question. Due to the fragility of todays computer networks and their
> vulnerability to electro-magnetic pulses, among other things, is their
> another radically different and more armored system out there on the
> horizon? Some say it's a matter of time before an enemy of the U.S.
> detonates a nuclear airburst above this country and fries every computer to
> send us back to an agrarian society.
>
>

It is what it is and if technology changes radically enough, you'll know
about it. It's not going to happen in your lifetime that things change
that much that you'll notice it, IMHO

Duane :)

MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE 01-29-2006 08:57 PM

Re: AFTER Computers; What's Next?
 
In article Duane Arnold wrote:
>Frank B. wrote:
>> Not being a true "computer guy" I'm not really sure how to ask this
>> question. Due to the fragility of todays computer networks and their
>> vulnerability to electro-magnetic pulses, among other things, is their
>> another radically different and more armored system out there on the
>> horizon? Some say it's a matter of time before an enemy of the U.S.
>> detonates a nuclear airburst above this country and fries every computer to
>> send us back to an agrarian society.
>>

>It is what it is and if technology changes radically enough, you'll know
>about it. It's not going to happen in your lifetime that things change
>that much that you'll notice it, IMHO


Really?
Teach your kids Chinese,
buy them an abacus as our own leaders sell us out.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abacus

http://canberra.yourguide.com.au/det...046&y=2002&m=2
US won't stay on top, says Clinton

JTJersey 01-29-2006 09:05 PM

Re: AFTER Computers; What's Next?
 
On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 20:57:44 +0000, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE wrote:

> In article Duane Arnold wrote:
>>Frank B. wrote:


> Really?
> Teach your kids Chinese,
> buy them an abacus as our own leaders sell us out.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abacus
>
> http://canberra.yourguide.com.au/det...046&y=2002&m=2
> US won't stay on top, says Clinton



Not if Clinton and his allies have their way we won't.



danny burstein 01-29-2006 09:05 PM

Re: AFTER Computers; What's Next?
 
In <c%9Df.8399$vU2.7386@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink. net> ExPresident@au.revoir.gov (MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE) writes:

>Really?
>Teach your kids Chinese,
>buy them an abacus as our own leaders sell us out.
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abacus


Hey, don't discount an abacus that quickly. When we were
on that interplanetary shuttle and the main computer's
power supply was knocked off service, it was only
thanks to lots of sweat and improvised abacuses
that we were able to calculate the rocket engine
twekas to get us back on track.

Not quite to our destination, but close enough
for short range radio contact. Wore our fingers just
about to the bone, though.



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Jbob 01-29-2006 09:20 PM

Re: AFTER Computers; What's Next?
 
"Frank B." <f@midsouth.rr.com> wrote in message
news:S59Df.70679$Q11.32351@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com. ..
> Not being a true "computer guy" I'm not really sure how to ask this
> question. Due to the fragility of todays computer networks and their
> vulnerability to electro-magnetic pulses, among other things, is their
> another radically different and more armored system out there on the
> horizon? Some say it's a matter of time before an enemy of the U.S.
> detonates a nuclear airburst above this country and fries every computer
> to send us back to an agrarian society.


Computers are here to stay. What you will see is updated interface devices,
storage techniques and transmission methods. You will see smaller keypads,
optical storage techniques/methods as well as optical/wireless for
transmission. Copper wire will disappear at least in quantities in
electronics. Many of these things will be much more tolerant to EMP type
devices.
I will admit that todays infrastructure is all too dependant on this fragile
network we have. Just look at our nations energy tranmission/capacity
weaknesses! Backup/alternate means tend to follow long before they should
be. Unfortunately in a society based on profit margins and supply/demand
they backups typically do not follow until a disaster. Most of our
technology is commerce driven today short of what is developed by the
military.

You could also add to the list our water supply as well. Just ask the SW
USA.



Plato 01-29-2006 09:24 PM

Re: AFTER Computers; What's Next?
 
Frank B. wrote:
>
> Not being a true "computer guy" I'm not really sure how to ask this
> question. Due to the fragility of todays computer networks and their
> vulnerability to electro-magnetic pulses, among other things, is their
> another radically different and more armored system out there on the
> horizon? Some say it's a matter of time before an enemy of the U.S.
> detonates a nuclear airburst above this country and fries every computer to
> send us back to an agrarian society.


The world will continue to depend on computers to do their every task no
matter what the risk.


Brad 01-29-2006 09:37 PM

Re: AFTER Computers; What's Next?
 
Networks are certainly not unreliable people are, with advanced
protocols which multi billion pound companys depend on for transactions
and the functioning of their business they have reached a brilliantly
reliable stage.

Ie, STP, and tonnes or routing protocols such as BGP, IS-IS, OSPF, they
permit private networks to adapt and work even when half the earth is
missing! The internet is only unreliable due to the static routes that
ISPs program into their routers which dont evolve to the dynamic
network.

With evolving technologies such as biological computers using neurons
(just google it), and I heard somewhere they were creating monitors
using similar techniques.

But no system is perfect and any system can be knocked en masse out
using various methods, huge companies and the goverment just keep them
underground in nuclear bunkers anyway :D


Cosmopolite 01-29-2006 10:49 PM

Re: AFTER Computers; What's Next?
 
MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE wrote:
> In article Duane Arnold wrote:
>
>>Frank B. wrote:
>>
>>> Not being a true "computer guy" I'm not really sure how to ask this
>>>question. Due to the fragility of todays computer networks and their
>>>vulnerability to electro-magnetic pulses, among other things, is their
>>>another radically different and more armored system out there on the
>>>horizon? Some say it's a matter of time before an enemy of the U.S.
>>>detonates a nuclear airburst above this country and fries every computer to
>>>send us back to an agrarian society.
>>>

>>
>>It is what it is and if technology changes radically enough, you'll know
>>about it. It's not going to happen in your lifetime that things change
>>that much that you'll notice it, IMHO

>
>
> Really?
> Teach your kids Chinese,
> buy them an abacus as our own leaders sell us out.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abacus
>
> http://canberra.yourguide.com.au/det...046&y=2002&m=2
> US won't stay on top, says Clinton


Twenty years ago, we were told to learn Japanese. What happened ?

Twenty years from now. Punjabi ? It's a global village, get used

to it.

Cosmopolite 01-29-2006 10:53 PM

Re: AFTER Computers; What's Next?
 
Frank B. wrote:

> Not being a true "computer guy" I'm not really sure how to ask this
> question. Due to the fragility of todays computer networks and their
> vulnerability to electro-magnetic pulses, among other things, is their
> another radically different and more armored system out there on the
> horizon? Some say it's a matter of time before an enemy of the U.S.
> detonates a nuclear airburst above this country and fries every computer to
> send us back to an agrarian society.


The nukes were comming in the 50's, so we were told. Didn't happen

then, won't happen now.


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