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Steve Jankelowitz 10-29-2003 03:01 PM

A Mailicious looking hack
 
Hi

I wonder if anyone can shed some light on the following:

A server kept crashing, the hardware is pretty old so it was obvoiusly the
1st thing that was looked at. The box is running Windows NT 4. It turned
out that the hardware is fine. but we found directories containing
encrypted files as well as suspicious files in the Windows directories.
We can not delete these directories. It looks to me as if someone has
hacked into the box and is using it as a gateway, probably for something
illegal.

Has anyone encountered this problem and if so, what can I do to fix it.

Regards
Steve

David Postill 10-29-2003 05:56 PM

Re: A Mailicious looking hack
 
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In article <Xns9423ACCE8375stevejufrmsa1uniforu@196.25.240.15 8>, on 29 Oct 2003 15:01:37 GMT, Steve Jankelowitz
<stevej@ufrmsa1.uniforum.org.za> wrote:

| Hi
|
| I wonder if anyone can shed some light on the following:
|
| A server kept crashing, the hardware is pretty old so it was obvoiusly the
| 1st thing that was looked at. The box is running Windows NT 4. It turned
| out that the hardware is fine. but we found directories containing
| encrypted files as well as suspicious files in the Windows directories.
| We can not delete these directories. It looks to me as if someone has
| hacked into the box and is using it as a gateway, probably for something
| illegal.
|
| Has anyone encountered this problem and if so, what can I do to fix it.

Your best option at this point is a clean install from known good media
(your original windows NT CD). While doing so make sure you are not connected
to the internet.

Before connecting to the internet install firewall and virus checkers also
from known good media (a good idea might be to get someone who has a secure
system to download them and burn them to CD for you, along with all updates,
particularly for the virus checker).

Then connect to the net and install all NT patches.

HTH

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David Postill

Chuck 10-29-2003 07:37 PM

Re: A Mailicious looking hack
 
On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:56:18 GMT, David Postill <david@postill.org.uk>
wrote:

>Your best option at this point is a clean install from known good media
>(your original windows NT CD). While doing so make sure you are not connected
>to the internet.
>
>Before connecting to the internet install firewall and virus checkers also
>from known good media (a good idea might be to get someone who has a secure
>system to download them and burn them to CD for you, along with all updates,
>particularly for the virus checker).


Or get a NAT router, and install the updates on your computer safely
and quickly, while connected.

A NAT router, software firewall, and properly updated OS /
applications are all part of a layered defense. None of them is
unnecessary, and all are affordable.

Chuck
I hate spam - PLEASE get rid of the spam before emailing me!
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.

Jim 10-29-2003 08:48 PM

Re: A Mailicious looking hack
 
Can we get a list of the file names and directories?

Jim

Steve Jankelowitz The commander of all things worth commanding said on
10/29/2003 10:01 AM:
> Hi
>
> I wonder if anyone can shed some light on the following:
>
> A server kept crashing, the hardware is pretty old so it was obvoiusly the
> 1st thing that was looked at. The box is running Windows NT 4. It turned
> out that the hardware is fine. but we found directories containing
> encrypted files as well as suspicious files in the Windows directories.
> We can not delete these directories. It looks to me as if someone has
> hacked into the box and is using it as a gateway, probably for something
> illegal.
>
> Has anyone encountered this problem and if so, what can I do to fix it.
>
> Regards
> Steve



Colonel Flagg 10-29-2003 09:52 PM

Re: A Mailicious looking hack
 
In article <Xns9423ACCE8375stevejufrmsa1uniforu@196.25.240.15 8>,
stevej@ufrmsa1.uniforum.org.za says...
> Hi
>
> I wonder if anyone can shed some light on the following:
>
> A server kept crashing, the hardware is pretty old so it was obvoiusly the
> 1st thing that was looked at. The box is running Windows NT 4. It turned
> out that the hardware is fine. but we found directories containing
> encrypted files as well as suspicious files in the Windows directories.
> We can not delete these directories. It looks to me as if someone has
> hacked into the box and is using it as a gateway, probably for something
> illegal.
>
> Has anyone encountered this problem and if so, what can I do to fix it.
>
> Regards
> Steve
>



hire a better admin.



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Bottle 10-30-2003 06:37 AM

Re: A Mailicious looking hack
 
Let me guess, your running IIS 4.0, woopie, do a complete new install,
update to SP6, fire your current admin, if its you, do us a favor and
kill yourself, the damn nt 4 vulns are all years old. get a better server
solution

Bottle

Mal 10-30-2003 05:53 PM

Re: A Mailicious looking hack
 
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 06:37:22 GMT, Bottle <crazyregulator@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Let me guess, your running IIS 4.0, woopie, do a complete new install,
>update to SP6, fire your current admin, if its you, do us a favor and
>kill yourself, the damn nt 4 vulns are all years old. get a better server
>solution
>
>Bottle


Maybe you should reply to the OP, not the responders?


the man who knew too much 10-31-2003 01:13 PM

Re: A Mailicious looking hack
 
Steve Jankelowitz wrote:

> Hi
>
> I wonder if anyone can shed some light on the following:
>
> A server kept crashing, the hardware is pretty old so it was obvoiusly the
> 1st thing that was looked at. The box is running Windows NT 4. It turned
> out that the hardware is fine. but we found directories containing
> encrypted files as well as suspicious files in the Windows directories.
> We can not delete these directories. It looks to me as if someone has
> hacked into the box and is using it as a gateway, probably for something
> illegal.
>
> Has anyone encountered this problem and if so, what can I do to fix it.
>
> Regards
> Steve


get ahold of a recent copy of linux or freebsd installation disk, place it
in the cdrom drive & reboot


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1. not allowed to connect to the internet
2. not letting anyone have access to the cdrom or floppy
drive when unattended

Steve 11-03-2003 07:22 AM

Re: A Mailicious looking hack
 
Folder names are COM1, LPT1 etc can not get the file names !!!

Steve

"Jim" <jimbone@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:FHVnb.82926$W77.14322@bignews6.bellsouth.net. ..
> Can we get a list of the file names and directories?
>
> Jim
>
> Steve Jankelowitz The commander of all things worth commanding said on
> 10/29/2003 10:01 AM:
> > Hi
> >
> > I wonder if anyone can shed some light on the following:
> >
> > A server kept crashing, the hardware is pretty old so it was obvoiusly

the
> > 1st thing that was looked at. The box is running Windows NT 4. It turned
> > out that the hardware is fine. but we found directories containing
> > encrypted files as well as suspicious files in the Windows directories.
> > We can not delete these directories. It looks to me as if someone has
> > hacked into the box and is using it as a gateway, probably for something
> > illegal.
> >
> > Has anyone encountered this problem and if so, what can I do to fix it.
> >
> > Regards
> > Steve

>




Stephen K. Gielda 11-03-2003 05:13 PM

Re: A Mailicious looking hack
 
In article <bo526k$1pp$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net>,
stevej@ufrmsa1.uniforum.org.za says...
> Folder names are COM1, LPT1 etc can not get the file names !!!
>


The system was probably compromised, you should rebuild it from scratch.
Anyway, there is info on removing these folders here:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
scid=http://support.microsoft.com:80/support/kb/articles/Q120/7/16.ASP&N
oWebContent=1

/steve
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