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Tom C. 08-11-2004 05:40 PM

Which Would You Pick . . .
 
Looking to get a good digital camera (who isn't?) to use for outdoor sports,
family outings and the usual kid shots. I'd also like to take short movies
with it so that I don't have to lug around my video camera. I have three
kids, 7, 4 and 1 that require a fast shooting times, so the autofocus speed
needs to be pretty good. I don't want another SLR system - too big and
bulky to carry. Smaller and digital is better for me at this point. I've
increased my budget to around $700 and these are the models that I've
narrowed the choices down to:

Olympus C-5060wz (~$500)
Is it always better to go less camera and more memory? I can add a good
size memory card, and just be at my budget.

Minolta Dimage A2 (~$700)
Put my whole budget into the good camera and get a larger memory card later
after I save up a few bucks.

Olympus C-8080 (~725)
I guess I can squeeze out a few more bucks.

Maybe Fuji S7000??? (~$450)
Nikon Coolpix 8700??? (~750 minus $200 rebate = ~$550)

Any others I should consider?

Thanks-



Tom C. 08-11-2004 05:56 PM

Re: Which Would You Pick . . .
 
BTW - I would like to print some 8x10 photos (maybe larger), but mostly 4x6
prints would work for my family.

Thanks again-



Petr 08-11-2004 06:47 PM

Re: Which Would You Pick . . .
 
Olympus C8080 would be my choice but bear in mind that this is a compact
digital so essentially a point and shoot. In my experience it is the best
out of all the 8mp compacts. The coolpix is a piece of junk in regards to
pic quality. Just read the reviews on them here and decide
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/comp...s7000&show=all
I would go for the 8080 hands down.

"Tom C." <tomcNO@SPAMfastnetit.com> wrote in message
news:cfdlms018fo@enews4.newsguy.com...
> Looking to get a good digital camera (who isn't?) to use for outdoor

sports,
> family outings and the usual kid shots. I'd also like to take short

movies
> with it so that I don't have to lug around my video camera. I have three
> kids, 7, 4 and 1 that require a fast shooting times, so the autofocus

speed
> needs to be pretty good. I don't want another SLR system - too big and
> bulky to carry. Smaller and digital is better for me at this point. I've
> increased my budget to around $700 and these are the models that I've
> narrowed the choices down to:
>
> Olympus C-5060wz (~$500)
> Is it always better to go less camera and more memory? I can add a good
> size memory card, and just be at my budget.
>
> Minolta Dimage A2 (~$700)
> Put my whole budget into the good camera and get a larger memory card

later
> after I save up a few bucks.
>
> Olympus C-8080 (~725)
> I guess I can squeeze out a few more bucks.
>
> Maybe Fuji S7000??? (~$450)
> Nikon Coolpix 8700??? (~750 minus $200 rebate = ~$550)
>
> Any others I should consider?
>
> Thanks-
>
>




David J Taylor 08-11-2004 08:29 PM

Re: Which Would You Pick . . .
 
Petr wrote:
> The coolpix is a piece of junk in regards to pic quality.


The picture quality on the Nikon Coolpix 5700 is excellent - I own one and
use it so I have direct experience. Is your opinion based on ownership?

The picture quality of the Minolta A2 (8MP) is no better than the 5MP
Nikon 5700 in my own tests. (Yes, I have owned both).

The original poster could save themselves quite a lot of money by going
for a 5MP camera instead of an 8MP one. If they want god telephoto zoom,
I would recommend the Nikon 5700, otherwise the Nikon 5400. Going for 5MP
will leave some money for those memory cards and accessories that you will
need. There are plenty of other models which will do as well, of course.

Cheers,
David



Petr 08-11-2004 08:46 PM

Re: Which Would You Pick . . .
 
The pictures from the 5700 were compared to a Canon pro 1 and I much
preffered the canon. That is from personal experience. However, I ended up
with a D70 so there is really no comparison between that and any of the
compacts. What type of photos do you take with your Coolpix?
"David J Taylor" <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.not-this-bit.nor-this-part.uk>
wrote in message news:vkvSc.3622$jd7.38577221@news-text.cableinet.net...
> Petr wrote:
> > The coolpix is a piece of junk in regards to pic quality.

>
> The picture quality on the Nikon Coolpix 5700 is excellent - I own one and
> use it so I have direct experience. Is your opinion based on ownership?
>
> The picture quality of the Minolta A2 (8MP) is no better than the 5MP
> Nikon 5700 in my own tests. (Yes, I have owned both).
>
> The original poster could save themselves quite a lot of money by going
> for a 5MP camera instead of an 8MP one. If they want god telephoto zoom,
> I would recommend the Nikon 5700, otherwise the Nikon 5400. Going for 5MP
> will leave some money for those memory cards and accessories that you will
> need. There are plenty of other models which will do as well, of course.
>
> Cheers,
> David
>
>




David J Taylor 08-11-2004 10:18 PM

Re: Which Would You Pick . . .
 
Petr wrote:
> The pictures from the 5700 were compared to a Canon pro 1 and I much
> preffered the canon. That is from personal experience. However, I
> ended up with a D70 so there is really no comparison between that and
> any of the compacts. What type of photos do you take with your
> Coolpix? "David J Taylor"


Thanks for that, Petr. I have ruled out a DSLR on weight, bulk and costs
grounds (even though I used to use a Nikon SLR). A lot of these
preferences can depend on in-camera defaults for sharpness, contrast,
colour balance etc.

I take a whole variety of shots of events (conferences, holidays,
personalities etc.) with my camera, but nothing with a tripod. Daytime,
evening nights, indoors and out. Very general. For macro I would
probably stick with my Nikon 990. I very rarely make prints, though, all
my viewing is on computer screens. I have had my shots published, but
just to illustrate a conference report.

Cheers,
David



Petr 08-12-2004 04:23 AM

Re: Which Would You Pick . . .
 
Ah, yeah I tend to do a lot of enlargements in the area of 20x30 so the slr
suits me better. I need to buy a little point and shoot to do macros though.
SLR.s are not the best for those, especially considering the prices of a
macro lens and the 1.6x multiplier does not help a macro lens either. BTW
the Canon Pro 1 had a defect. When you put on the filter adaptor with a UV
filter and the lens cap and you happen to turn the camera on on its side (as
in vertical portrait) the lens would jam as it comes out. This happened on
all the Pro 1's in the store when I tried to return it. Just a warning to
anyone who is looking for one.
Later
Petr

"David J Taylor" <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.not-this-bit.nor-this-part.uk>
wrote in message news:VWwSc.3694$Xl.39942161@news-text.cableinet.net...
> Petr wrote:
> > The pictures from the 5700 were compared to a Canon pro 1 and I much
> > preffered the canon. That is from personal experience. However, I
> > ended up with a D70 so there is really no comparison between that and
> > any of the compacts. What type of photos do you take with your
> > Coolpix? "David J Taylor"

>
> Thanks for that, Petr. I have ruled out a DSLR on weight, bulk and costs
> grounds (even though I used to use a Nikon SLR). A lot of these
> preferences can depend on in-camera defaults for sharpness, contrast,
> colour balance etc.
>
> I take a whole variety of shots of events (conferences, holidays,
> personalities etc.) with my camera, but nothing with a tripod. Daytime,
> evening nights, indoors and out. Very general. For macro I would
> probably stick with my Nikon 990. I very rarely make prints, though, all
> my viewing is on computer screens. I have had my shots published, but
> just to illustrate a conference report.
>
> Cheers,
> David
>
>




JAY 08-12-2004 08:31 AM

Re: Which Would You Pick . . .
 
I had the same needs and after some great advice from the group on what to
look for i settled on the sony cyber-shot dsc-p100
http://www.steves-digicams.com/2004_reviews/p100.html
and let me tell you im not a big sony fan but this thing is impresive 1.5
seconds from hiting the power button to shooting your first pic very little
to no wait between shots and it is real small and handy!
Good luck
"Tom C." <tomcNO@SPAMfastnetit.com> wrote in message
news:cfdlms018fo@enews4.newsguy.com...
> Looking to get a good digital camera (who isn't?) to use for outdoor
> sports,
> family outings and the usual kid shots. I'd also like to take short
> movies
> with it so that I don't have to lug around my video camera. I have three
> kids, 7, 4 and 1 that require a fast shooting times, so the autofocus
> speed
> needs to be pretty good. I don't want another SLR system - too big and
> bulky to carry. Smaller and digital is better for me at this point. I've
> increased my budget to around $700 and these are the models that I've
> narrowed the choices down to:
>
> Olympus C-5060wz (~$500)
> Is it always better to go less camera and more memory? I can add a good
> size memory card, and just be at my budget.
>
> Minolta Dimage A2 (~$700)
> Put my whole budget into the good camera and get a larger memory card
> later
> after I save up a few bucks.
>
> Olympus C-8080 (~725)
> I guess I can squeeze out a few more bucks.
>
> Maybe Fuji S7000??? (~$450)
> Nikon Coolpix 8700??? (~750 minus $200 rebate = ~$550)
>
> Any others I should consider?
>
> Thanks-
>
>




Marvin Margoshes 08-12-2004 04:32 PM

Re: Which Would You Pick . . .
 

"Tom C." <tomcNO@SPAMfastnetit.com> wrote in message
news:cfdlms018fo@enews4.newsguy.com...
> Looking to get a good digital camera (who isn't?) to use for outdoor

sports,
> family outings and the usual kid shots. I'd also like to take short

movies
> with it so that I don't have to lug around my video camera. I have three
> kids, 7, 4 and 1 that require a fast shooting times, so the autofocus

speed
> needs to be pretty good. I don't want another SLR system - too big and
> bulky to carry. Smaller and digital is better for me at this point. I've
> increased my budget to around $700 and these are the models that I've
> narrowed the choices down to:
>

<snip>
There are new digital vidicams on the market that also take 2 Mp stills.
That is enough for excellent 4X6 prints, and decent 8X10 prints. I don't
have the details handy on these vidicams; I've only seen them advertised.



Thomas 08-20-2004 02:09 PM

Re: Which Would You Pick . . .
 
Don't waste time witht he digital stills from a digital camcorder. I
have a JVC that can take a fair picture of a still object. Enought to
make an OK image for an online auction. These tend not to have enough
point and shoot inteligence to make decent pictures or enough manual
settings to come anywhere close to a true digital camera.



"Marvin Margoshes" <physnospamchem@cloud9.net> wrote in message news:<10hn6tngtcomg49@corp.supernews.com>...

> <snip>
> There are new digital vidicams on the market that also take 2 Mp stills.
> That is enough for excellent 4X6 prints, and decent 8X10 prints. I don't
> have the details handy on these vidicams; I've only seen them advertised.



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