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Rick 12-21-2004 05:49 AM

DVD Burners - which one?
 
I've not had much luck finding a good website that gives reliable reviews on
DVD Burners, but I believe that the common concensus is that brands like
Lite-On, LG, Pioneer and Plextor are desirable at their price range (under
$150). I have also heard about things like "bit-setting" and other such
terminologies which apparently improve the way that a DVD is burnt.

I am after one that will not only backup DVDs but also for coping with the
various protection methods of PC games. Also, which DVD format is supposed
to be the most compitable with standalone DVD players (DVD +R or -R)?
Thanks for any help (or websites to visit) that you can offer.




Koenig 12-21-2004 05:59 AM

Re: DVD Burners - which one?
 

"Rick" <deNOPElorean@dodo.com.au> wrote in message
news:41c7b979@news.comindico.com.au...
> I've not had much luck finding a good website that gives reliable reviews

on
> DVD Burners, but I believe that the common concensus is that brands like
> Lite-On, LG, Pioneer and Plextor are desirable at their price range (under
> $150). I have also heard about things like "bit-setting" and other such
> terminologies which apparently improve the way that a DVD is burnt.
>
> I am after one that will not only backup DVDs but also for coping with the
> various protection methods of PC games.


Your DVD burner won't be able to help you circumvent copy protection (you
have to use whatever methods you currently employ to do so). But for
reliable burning you can't go past the Pioneers. Superb units, superb
quality.

>Also, which DVD format is supposed
> to be the most compitable with standalone DVD players (DVD +R or -R)?


DVD-R is most compatible, although it is best to check a few brands of them
to ensure they work with your DVD player properly.



matt 12-21-2004 06:43 AM

Re: DVD Burners - which one?
 
Go Pioneer for sure


"Koenig" <trevorgensch@aanet.com.ayyou> wrote in message
news:JYOxd.1177$I52.57599@news.optus.net.au...
>
> "Rick" <deNOPElorean@dodo.com.au> wrote in message
> news:41c7b979@news.comindico.com.au...
> > I've not had much luck finding a good website that gives reliable

reviews
> on
> > DVD Burners, but I believe that the common concensus is that brands like
> > Lite-On, LG, Pioneer and Plextor are desirable at their price range

(under
> > $150). I have also heard about things like "bit-setting" and other such
> > terminologies which apparently improve the way that a DVD is burnt.
> >
> > I am after one that will not only backup DVDs but also for coping with

the
> > various protection methods of PC games.

>
> Your DVD burner won't be able to help you circumvent copy protection (you
> have to use whatever methods you currently employ to do so). But for
> reliable burning you can't go past the Pioneers. Superb units, superb
> quality.
>
> >Also, which DVD format is supposed
> > to be the most compitable with standalone DVD players (DVD +R or -R)?

>
> DVD-R is most compatible, although it is best to check a few brands of

them
> to ensure they work with your DVD player properly.
>
>




TigerMan 12-21-2004 07:14 AM

Re: DVD Burners - which one?
 
The Pioneer 108 is a very good unit

"Rick" <deNOPElorean@dodo.com.au> wrote in message
news:41c7b979@news.comindico.com.au...
> I've not had much luck finding a good website that gives reliable reviews
> on DVD Burners, but I believe that the common concensus is that brands
> like Lite-On, LG, Pioneer and Plextor are desirable at their price range
> (under $150). I have also heard about things like "bit-setting" and other
> such terminologies which apparently improve the way that a DVD is burnt.
>
> I am after one that will not only backup DVDs but also for coping with the
> various protection methods of PC games. Also, which DVD format is
> supposed to be the most compitable with standalone DVD players (DVD +R
> or -R)? Thanks for any help (or websites to visit) that you can offer.
>
>
>




Donald Link 12-21-2004 07:20 AM

Re: DVD Burners - which one?
 
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 05:49:46 GMT, "Rick" <deNOPElorean@dodo.com.au>
wrote:

>I've not had much luck finding a good website that gives reliable reviews on
>DVD Burners, but I believe that the common concensus is that brands like
>Lite-On, LG, Pioneer and Plextor are desirable at their price range (under
>$150). I have also heard about things like "bit-setting" and other such
>terminologies which apparently improve the way that a DVD is burnt.
>
>I am after one that will not only backup DVDs but also for coping with the
>various protection methods of PC games. Also, which DVD format is supposed
>to be the most compitable with standalone DVD players (DVD +R or -R)?
>Thanks for any help (or websites to visit) that you can offer.
>
>


Do not rule out Memorex. Have found them to be very reliable and no
trouble in using DVD shrink like some of the brands.

SalesMart.com.au 12-21-2004 08:00 AM

Re: DVD Burners - which one?
 
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 05:49:46 GMT, "Rick" <deNOPElorean@dodo.com.au>
wrote:

>I've not had much luck finding a good website that gives reliable reviews on
>DVD Burners, but I believe that the common concensus is that brands like
>Lite-On, LG, Pioneer and Plextor are desirable at their price range (under
>$150). I have also heard about things like "bit-setting" and other such
>terminologies which apparently improve the way that a DVD is burnt.


The bit setting is to do with DVD+R media. The Pioneer DVR-108 drives
don't require this utility a its been built into the firmware for this
drive. More on this at:
http://www.pioneeraus.com.au/compute...vdInfo_23.html

NOTE: That some DVD players even with that utility or burnt in the
Pioneer DVR-108/A08XL drive may still never work with that DVD player.
I own such a DVD player that can not detect a DVD+R disc no matter
what utility or Pioneer 108 drive you use.

If in doubt use DVD-R then you don't need to worry about the bit
setting.

>
>I am after one that will not only backup DVDs but also for coping with the
>various protection methods of PC games. Also, which DVD format is supposed
>to be the most compitable with standalone DVD players (DVD +R or -R)?
>Thanks for any help (or websites to visit) that you can offer.


All depends what you are going to be using it for.
If its to be used for DATA backups then the LG as it can re write to
DVD-RAM meida which is many time smore reliable and robust than
DVD-RW/+RW will ever be.

If its only going to be used for video then go the Pioneer DVR-108
drives and if you have a capture card and plan to create your own DVD
Video collections then get the Pioneer DVR-A08XL which has the better
software for authoring.

If you are looking at the Pioneer DVR-A08XL drive you may want to
download the trial version of Ulead DVD workshop V2 to see if its for
your requirements and see how it goes on your system. Or you could get
the OEM in the Pioneer DVR-108 and then use DVD-Lab which some prefer
over DVD Workshop. DVD Lab costs about a extra $100 and also has a
trial version to download so you get to play with it before deciding
wether it is worth buying.

I use a Pioneer DVR-108 and a LG 4082B drive. For video burns I use
the Pioneer and for DATA backups I use the LG along with USB2 hard
drives.

The beauty of the Pioneer DVR-108/A08XL drives is it will burn certain
8X speed media at 12X using Pioneer Authorized firmware. The LG drives
will only burn at a max speed of 8X and some brands of 8X will burn no
faster than 4X on the LG drives. No doubt future firmware will correct
this problem.

For compatibilty with most DVD players I would strongly recommend
DVD-R media but again this does depend on the DVD player you own.

Most of my sales is with Orion DVD-R media as most prefer DVD-R over
DVD+R media. I made the terrible mistake of buying in thousands of
RiDATA DVD+R/+RW media thinking there was a market for these.
Been selling these way below what I paid for them just to clear them
out. Only taking up valuable shelf space.

SalesMart.com.au
Perth, Western Australia
http://www.salesmart.com.au
Email Contact info on the above site.


Dave 12-21-2004 08:12 AM

Re: DVD Burners - which one?
 

"Rick" <deNOPElorean@dodo.com.au> wrote in message
news:41c7b979@news.comindico.com.au...
> I've not had much luck finding a good website that gives reliable reviews

on
> DVD Burners, but I believe that the common concensus is that brands like
> Lite-On, LG, Pioneer and Plextor are desirable at their price range

(under
> $150). I have also heard about things like "bit-setting" and other such
> terminologies which apparently improve the way that a DVD is burnt.
>
> I am after one that will not only backup DVDs but also for coping with

the
> various protection methods of PC games. Also, which DVD format is

supposed
> to be the most compitable with standalone DVD players (DVD +R or -R)?
> Thanks for any help (or websites to visit) that you can offer.
>


Get a pioneer 108 or a NEC 3500, the only way with virtually any dvd writer
drive you can mess with copy protection is with appropriate copying tools
such as anydvd and alcohol 120%
HTH




Dave 12-21-2004 08:13 AM

Re: DVD Burners - which one?
 

"Donald Link" <linkd@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:lgjfs0l9fmh7col1it1dtfak58dnollmhj@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 05:49:46 GMT, "Rick" <deNOPElorean@dodo.com.au>
> wrote:
>
> >I've not had much luck finding a good website that gives reliable

reviews on
> >DVD Burners, but I believe that the common concensus is that brands like
> >Lite-On, LG, Pioneer and Plextor are desirable at their price range

(under
> >$150). I have also heard about things like "bit-setting" and other such
> >terminologies which apparently improve the way that a DVD is burnt.
> >
> >I am after one that will not only backup DVDs but also for coping with

the
> >various protection methods of PC games. Also, which DVD format is

supposed
> >to be the most compitable with standalone DVD players (DVD +R or -R)?
> >Thanks for any help (or websites to visit) that you can offer.
> >
> >

>
> Do not rule out Memorex. Have found them to be very reliable and no
> trouble in using DVD shrink like some of the brands.


Crap drives for burn reliabilty with cmc dyes and other budget media




David Harris 12-21-2004 08:22 AM

Re: DVD Burners - which one?
 
Rick wrote:
> I've not had much luck finding a good website that gives reliable reviews on
> DVD Burners, but I believe that the common concensus is that brands like
> Lite-On, LG, Pioneer and Plextor are desirable at their price range (under
> $150). I have also heard about things like "bit-setting" and other such
> terminologies which apparently improve the way that a DVD is burnt.
>
> I am after one that will not only backup DVDs but also for coping with the
> various protection methods of PC games. Also, which DVD format is supposed
> to be the most compitable with standalone DVD players (DVD +R or -R)?
> Thanks for any help (or websites to visit) that you can offer.


Pioneer 108 with "NIL"'s firmware upgrade, rips and burns at up to 12x perfectly
with good media (Ritek G04 (?) 8x Infiniti currently)

Google "NIL pioneer 108 firmware"

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POD {Ò¿Ó} 12-21-2004 08:22 AM

Re: DVD Burners - which one?
 
The phone rang while Rick was doing the ironing, resulting in the 3rd
degree burn on their ear, visible for all in uk.media.dvd to guffaw
over.

> I've not had much luck finding a good website that gives reliable
> reviews on DVD Burners, but I believe that the common concensus is
> that brands like Lite-On, LG, Pioneer and Plextor are desirable at
> their price range (under $150). I have also heard about things like
> "bit-setting" and other such terminologies which apparently improve
> the way that a DVD is burnt.
>
> I am after one that will not only backup DVDs but also for coping with
> the various protection methods of PC games. Also, which DVD format is
> supposed to be the most compitable with standalone DVD players (DVD +R
> or -R)? Thanks for any help (or websites to visit) that you can offer.
>
>
>


Pioneer 108 or NEC 3500...nuff said

--
Another fine post from the semantically cute.....

POD

"A practitioner of the vituperative arts"


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