Ebay Bootleg Problem
 

I bought a DVD off of ebay, "Leon: The Professional" that was listed as a
new and sealed copy. I ended up paying $19.01 with shipping. Today, I got
it in the mail.. and it's a bootleg copy. The artwork is cheaply printed..
and has been edited to say that it is an "all region" dvd and that it is a
"single layered version" of the movie. The UPC code and ISBN listed on the
packaging also have no association with this movie.. or anything at all for
that matter. I'm extremely ****ed, as this is the first time it's happened
to me. Does anyone have an email address or phone number I can call to give
information on this seller to either Columbia/Tristar or the MPAA? Has
anyone ever had this same problem before, and if is so, were you able to get
your money back with the help of Paypal? Please let me know if anyone can
help. - Nathan

Re: Ebay Bootleg Problem
 

"EvilN8" <NOSPAMmeshuggah@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:2g5uhoF4k46hU1@uni-berlin.de...
> I bought a DVD off of ebay, "Leon: The Professional" that was listed as a
> new and sealed copy. I ended up paying $19.01 with shipping. Today, I
got
> it in the mail.. and it's a bootleg copy. The artwork is cheaply
printed..
> and has been edited to say that it is an "all region" dvd and that it is a
> "single layered version" of the movie. The UPC code and ISBN listed on
the
> packaging also have no association with this movie.. or anything at all
for
> that matter. I'm extremely ****ed, as this is the first time it's
happened
> to me. Does anyone have an email address or phone number I can call to
give
> information on this seller to either Columbia/Tristar or the MPAA? Has
> anyone ever had this same problem before, and if is so, were you able to
get
> your money back with the help of Paypal? Please let me know if anyone can
> help. - Nathan
>
>

I would email the seller and complain - have you given them feedback yet?

The seller may refund your money...

Robotman.

Re: Ebay Bootleg Problem
 

"EvilN8" <NOSPAMmeshuggah@comcast.net> wrote...
> Does anyone have an email address or phone number I can call to give
> information on this seller to either Columbia/Tristar or the MPAA?

1-800-NOCOPYS

HTH,

-Junior

Re: Ebay Bootleg Problem
 

First thing to do is contact the seller and ask for a refund if they refuse
or don't reply in a reasonable amount of time contact EBay safeharbour thru
the online help section of the login page . Second file a fraud complaint
with the post office.



"EvilN8" <NOSPAMmeshuggah@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:2g5uhoF4k46hU1@uni-berlin.de...
> I bought a DVD off of ebay, "Leon: The Professional" that was listed as a
> new and sealed copy. I ended up paying $19.01 with shipping. Today, I
got
> it in the mail.. and it's a bootleg copy. The artwork is cheaply
printed..
> and has been edited to say that it is an "all region" dvd and that it is a
> "single layered version" of the movie. The UPC code and ISBN listed on
the
> packaging also have no association with this movie.. or anything at all
for
> that matter. I'm extremely ****ed, as this is the first time it's
happened
> to me. Does anyone have an email address or phone number I can call to
give
> information on this seller to either Columbia/Tristar or the MPAA? Has
> anyone ever had this same problem before, and if is so, were you able to
get
> your money back with the help of Paypal? Please let me know if anyone can
> help. - Nathan
>
>

Re: Ebay Bootleg Problem
 

"EvilN8" <NOSPAMmeshuggah@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:2g5uhoF4k46hU1@uni-berlin.de...
|I bought a DVD off of ebay, "Leon: The Professional" that was listed as a
| new and sealed copy. I ended up paying $19.01 with shipping. Today, I
got
| it in the mail.. and it's a bootleg copy. The artwork is cheaply
printed..
| and has been edited to say that it is an "all region" dvd and that it is a
| "single layered version" of the movie. The UPC code and ISBN listed on
the
| packaging also have no association with this movie.. or anything at all
for
| that matter. I'm extremely ****ed, as this is the first time it's
happened
| to me. Does anyone have an email address or phone number I can call to
give
| information on this seller to either Columbia/Tristar or the MPAA? Has
| anyone ever had this same problem before, and if is so, were you able to
get
| your money back with the help of Paypal? Please let me know if anyone can
| help. - Nathan
|

Just like a credit card company PayPal has an obligation to void the money
exchange if it is based on criminal fraud (which this is) or criminal acts
(which this is).

Also: eBay loves to hear about these things, so they can kick the seller off
of their list.

Hotline(at)mpaa.org is also extremely interested in any information you can
give about these criminals. Was his return address on the package? If it
was, make sure you provide that to the MPAA.

And the FBI is actively investigating both video piracy and auction fraud.
Send your findings to cybercrime(at)fbi.gov.


SB

Re: Ebay Bootleg Problem
 

"fuzzy1" <fuzzynospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:aWqnc.261$dr1.28947@news20.bellglobal.com...
|
|
| First thing to do is contact the seller and ask for a refund if they
refuse
| or don't reply in a reasonable amount of time contact EBay safeharbour
thru
| the online help section of the login page . Second file a fraud complaint
| with the post office.
|

I don't fully agree: whether or not the seller gives a refund, he is
willfully and knwoingly (a) misrepresenting his products an (b) committing
the crime of video piracy. EBay, PayPal , MPAA and FBI should be notified no
matter what.

SB

Re: Ebay Bootleg Problem
 

>> The seller may refund your money...

Good luck !!!!


"Robotman" <NOSPAM@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
news:2g6468F4qeg3U1@uni-berlin.de...
>
> "EvilN8" <NOSPAMmeshuggah@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:2g5uhoF4k46hU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > I bought a DVD off of ebay, "Leon: The Professional" that was listed as
a
> > new and sealed copy. I ended up paying $19.01 with shipping. Today, I
> got
> > it in the mail.. and it's a bootleg copy. The artwork is cheaply
> printed..
> > and has been edited to say that it is an "all region" dvd and that it is
a
> > "single layered version" of the movie. The UPC code and ISBN listed on
> the
> > packaging also have no association with this movie.. or anything at all
> for
> > that matter. I'm extremely ****ed, as this is the first time it's
> happened
> > to me. Does anyone have an email address or phone number I can call to
> give
> > information on this seller to either Columbia/Tristar or the MPAA? Has
> > anyone ever had this same problem before, and if is so, were you able to
> get
> > your money back with the help of Paypal? Please let me know if anyone
can
> > help. - Nathan
> >
> >
>
> I would email the seller and complain - have you given them feedback yet?
>
> The seller may refund your money...
>
> Robotman.
>
>

Re: Ebay Bootleg Problem
 

"Spam Buster" <s_p_a_m__buster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:C_unc.72669$NR5.32838@fe1.texas.rr.com...
> "fuzzy1" <fuzzynospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:aWqnc.261$dr1.28947@news20.bellglobal.com...
> |
> |
> | First thing to do is contact the seller and ask for a refund if they
> refuse
> | or don't reply in a reasonable amount of time contact EBay safeharbour
> thru
> | the online help section of the login page . Second file a fraud
complaint
> | with the post office.
> |
>
> I don't fully agree: whether or not the seller gives a refund, he is
> willfully and knwoingly (a) misrepresenting his products an (b) committing
> the crime of video piracy. EBay, PayPal , MPAA and FBI should be notified
no
> matter what.

None of them can do one single thing unless the copyright owner presses
charges. I doubt they will bother with legal fees to thwart a $20 pirate.

Re: Ebay Bootleg Problem
 

"Spam Buster" <s_p_a_m__buster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:67rnc.72182$NR5.31403@fe1.texas.rr.com...
> "EvilN8" <NOSPAMmeshuggah@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:2g5uhoF4k46hU1@uni-berlin.de...
> |I bought a DVD off of ebay, "Leon: The Professional" that was listed as a
> | new and sealed copy. I ended up paying $19.01 with shipping. Today, I
> got
> | it in the mail.. and it's a bootleg copy. The artwork is cheaply
> printed..
> | and has been edited to say that it is an "all region" dvd and that it is
a
> | "single layered version" of the movie. The UPC code and ISBN listed on
> the
> | packaging also have no association with this movie.. or anything at all
> for
> | that matter. I'm extremely ****ed, as this is the first time it's
> happened
> | to me. Does anyone have an email address or phone number I can call to
> give
> | information on this seller to either Columbia/Tristar or the MPAA? Has
> | anyone ever had this same problem before, and if is so, were you able to
> get
> | your money back with the help of Paypal? Please let me know if anyone
can
> | help. - Nathan
> |
>
> Just like a credit card company PayPal has an obligation to void the money
> exchange if it is based on criminal fraud (which this is) or criminal acts
> (which this is).

Yes, Paypal will bend over backwards to help.

Sense that sarcasm? Good. Fact is, if the seller has a tracking number that
says something was delivered to somewhere in that zip code, then the buyer
is SOL. He could have sent a box of rocks, as long as he has that tracking
number for proof, he's fine.

>
> Also: eBay loves to hear about these things, so they can kick the seller
off
> of their list.

Yes, then they can just use one of the other 42 accounts they have.


>
> Hotline(at)mpaa.org is also extremely interested in any information you
can
> give about these criminals. Was his return address on the package? If it
> was, make sure you provide that to the MPAA.

They will do nothing unless the onwer of the copyright sues.

>
> And the FBI is actively investigating both video piracy and auction fraud.
> Send your findings to cybercrime(at)fbi.gov.

See above.

Re: Ebay Bootleg Problem
 

None of these organizations really care and will do nothing for you. You
need to conatct the Copyright Owner, and unless it's Warner Bros., they
probably won't care either. The responsibility lies with eBay but they'll
claim "venue only" status if you try to reason with them.

> EBay, PayPal , MPAA and FBI should be notified no matter what.