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Bootstrap Bill 05-08-2004 08:42 PM

Video capture cards
 
I have an ATI "TV Wonder" card. It does "wonders" for NTSC. Is there
anything like it for HDTV as well?


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Oldus Fartus 05-09-2004 01:26 PM

Re: Video capture cards
 
Bootstrap Bill wrote:

> I have an ATI "TV Wonder" card. It does "wonders" for NTSC. Is there
> anything like it for HDTV as well?
>
>


Yes. Hauppauge has a couple of different HDTV models with the WinTV-D
and the WinTV-HD, Dvico has two or three models, and there is the Vision
Plus VP-DTV-T. You can search www.videohelp.com for more info.

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Ronald Cole 05-11-2004 08:41 AM

Re: Video capture cards
 
Oldus Fartus <denisand@iiNOSPAMnet.net.au> writes:
> Yes. Hauppauge has a couple of different HDTV models with the
> WinTV-D
> and the WinTV-HD, Dvico has two or three models, and there is the
> Vision Plus VP-DTV-T. You can search www.videohelp.com for more info.


Do you know anything about the 8-bit, 9-bit, and 10-bit capture cards?
I assume that the ATI is an 8-bit capture card. But I've been looking
for something a little better but having no luck getting good
information. What do you know about 9- and 10-bit capture cards?

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Oldus Fartus 05-11-2004 09:54 AM

Re: Video capture cards
 
Ronald Cole wrote:
> Oldus Fartus <denisand@iiNOSPAMnet.net.au> writes:
>
>>Yes. Hauppauge has a couple of different HDTV models with the
>>WinTV-D
>>and the WinTV-HD, Dvico has two or three models, and there is the
>>Vision Plus VP-DTV-T. You can search www.videohelp.com for more info.

>
>
> Do you know anything about the 8-bit, 9-bit, and 10-bit capture cards?
> I assume that the ATI is an 8-bit capture card. But I've been looking
> for something a little better but having no luck getting good
> information. What do you know about 9- and 10-bit capture cards?
>


I am sorry, I don't. Digital TV is in it's infacy in my area and I
haven't yet looked fully into them.

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Oldus Fartus


Ronald Cole 05-11-2004 10:01 PM

Re: Video capture cards
 
Oldus Fartus <denisand@iiNOSPAMnet.net.au> writes:
> Ronald Cole wrote:
>> Oldus Fartus <denisand@iiNOSPAMnet.net.au> writes:
>>>Yes. Hauppauge has a couple of different HDTV models with the
>>>WinTV-D
>>>and the WinTV-HD, Dvico has two or three models, and there is the
>>>Vision Plus VP-DTV-T. You can search www.videohelp.com for more info.

>> Do you know anything about the 8-bit, 9-bit, and 10-bit capture
>> cards?
>> I assume that the ATI is an 8-bit capture card. But I've been looking
>> for something a little better but having no luck getting good
>> information. What do you know about 9- and 10-bit capture cards?
>>

>
> I am sorry, I don't. Digital TV is in it's infacy in my area and I
> haven't yet looked fully into them.


I wasn't asking about DTV capture cards. My understanding is that
8-bit cards can only capture 256 colors. 9-bits can render 512 colors
and 10-bits can render 1024 colors. I would think that if one was
going to transfer from an inherently analog medium (LD) to a digital
one, that one would want the better color accuracy afforded by a
capture card with more than 8-bits.

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Steve(JazzHunter) 05-12-2004 12:46 AM

Re: Video capture cards
 
On Tue, 11 May 2004 15:01:44 -0700, Ronald Cole
<ronald@forte-intl.com> wrote:

>Oldus Fartus <denisand@iiNOSPAMnet.net.au> writes:
>> Ronald Cole wrote:
>>> Oldus Fartus <denisand@iiNOSPAMnet.net.au> writes:
>>>>Yes. Hauppauge has a couple of different HDTV models with the
>>>>WinTV-D
>>>>and the WinTV-HD, Dvico has two or three models, and there is the
>>>>Vision Plus VP-DTV-T. You can search www.videohelp.com for more info.
>>> Do you know anything about the 8-bit, 9-bit, and 10-bit capture
>>> cards?
>>> I assume that the ATI is an 8-bit capture card. But I've been looking
>>> for something a little better but having no luck getting good
>>> information. What do you know about 9- and 10-bit capture cards?
>>>

>>
>> I am sorry, I don't. Digital TV is in it's infacy in my area and I
>> haven't yet looked fully into them.

>
>I wasn't asking about DTV capture cards. My understanding is that
>8-bit cards can only capture 256 colors. 9-bits can render 512 colors
>and 10-bits can render 1024 colors. I would think that if one was
>going to transfer from an inherently analog medium (LD) to a digital
>one, that one would want the better color accuracy afforded by a
>capture card with more than 8-bits.


8 bits represent 256 shades of GREY. Even broadcast equipment only
generally uses 8-bit DACs. That's 256 shades per colour, which equals
many millions of colours. Scanners need 24 bits for millions of
colours,, with 32-bit etc representing Alpha channel information.
It's just a different terminology between scanners and video systems.

. Steve ..


Ronald Cole 05-16-2004 04:13 AM

Re: Video capture cards
 
"Steve(JazzHunter)" <jazzhunterNotHere@internet.com> writes:
> On Tue, 11 May 2004 15:01:44 -0700, Ronald Cole
> <ronald@forte-intl.com> wrote:
>
>>Oldus Fartus <denisand@iiNOSPAMnet.net.au> writes:
>>> Ronald Cole wrote:
>>>> Oldus Fartus <denisand@iiNOSPAMnet.net.au> writes:
>>>>>Yes. Hauppauge has a couple of different HDTV models with the
>>>>>WinTV-D
>>>>>and the WinTV-HD, Dvico has two or three models, and there is the
>>>>>Vision Plus VP-DTV-T. You can search www.videohelp.com for more info.
>>>> Do you know anything about the 8-bit, 9-bit, and 10-bit capture
>>>> cards?
>>>> I assume that the ATI is an 8-bit capture card. But I've been looking
>>>> for something a little better but having no luck getting good
>>>> information. What do you know about 9- and 10-bit capture cards?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I am sorry, I don't. Digital TV is in it's infacy in my area and I
>>> haven't yet looked fully into them.

>>
>>I wasn't asking about DTV capture cards. My understanding is that
>>8-bit cards can only capture 256 colors. 9-bits can render 512 colors
>>and 10-bits can render 1024 colors. I would think that if one was
>>going to transfer from an inherently analog medium (LD) to a digital
>>one, that one would want the better color accuracy afforded by a
>>capture card with more than 8-bits.

>
> 8 bits represent 256 shades of GREY. Even broadcast equipment only
> generally uses 8-bit DACs. That's 256 shades per colour, which equals
> many millions of colours. Scanners need 24 bits for millions of
> colours,, with 32-bit etc representing Alpha channel information.
> It's just a different terminology between scanners and video systems.


Ok, then, what's the benefit of capture cards with more than 8-bits?

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Ronald Cole <ronald@forte-intl.com> Phone: (760) 499-9142
President, CEO Fax: (760) 499-9152
My GPG fingerprint: C3AF 4BE9 BEA6 F1C2 B084 4A88 8851 E6C8 69E3 B00B


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