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Chirashi 01-22-2004 06:26 AM

Trying to convert my first movie
 
Hey Guys

I am having so much problem with burning AVI and MPG
file to DVD. I have a TDK 840G DVD burner, and when I try to use Nero or
Roxio I get errors such as the disk is to big. I am wondering how can a MPG
movie with the size of 786 meg can't fit into a 4.7 DVD media even after the
conversion or a 532 avi movie can't fit into a DVD-R. When I try to burn
these files and look on the bottom they both tell me it won't fit and on the
bottom it clear says it over 4.7 gig. I was wondering what am I doing
wrong, also would it be easier to convert it to a VOB files. I don't have
any issues burning VOB files. Thanks.



Tony 01-22-2004 08:13 AM

Re: Trying to convert my first movie
 
Its proably decided that a recode is needed, and that will be too big

"Chirashi" <chirashi@nospam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:nqSdnfwwQez18ZLdRVn-gg@comcast.com...
> Hey Guys
>
> I am having so much problem with burning AVI and MPG
> file to DVD. I have a TDK 840G DVD burner, and when I try to use Nero or
> Roxio I get errors such as the disk is to big. I am wondering how can a

MPG
> movie with the size of 786 meg can't fit into a 4.7 DVD media even after

the
> conversion or a 532 avi movie can't fit into a DVD-R. When I try to burn
> these files and look on the bottom they both tell me it won't fit and on

the
> bottom it clear says it over 4.7 gig. I was wondering what am I doing
> wrong, also would it be easier to convert it to a VOB files. I don't have
> any issues burning VOB files. Thanks.
>
>




HaZ 01-22-2004 10:43 AM

Re: Trying to convert my first movie
 
Sure you not trying to create a cd session rather than a dvd session?

HaZ

"Tony" <tdale@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
news:LCLPb.20022$9k7.368037@news.xtra.co.nz...
> Its proably decided that a recode is needed, and that will be too big
>
> "Chirashi" <chirashi@nospam.comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:nqSdnfwwQez18ZLdRVn-gg@comcast.com...
> > Hey Guys
> >
> > I am having so much problem with burning AVI and MPG
> > file to DVD. I have a TDK 840G DVD burner, and when I try to use Nero

or
> > Roxio I get errors such as the disk is to big. I am wondering how can a

> MPG
> > movie with the size of 786 meg can't fit into a 4.7 DVD media even after

> the
> > conversion or a 532 avi movie can't fit into a DVD-R. When I try to

burn
> > these files and look on the bottom they both tell me it won't fit and on

> the
> > bottom it clear says it over 4.7 gig. I was wondering what am I doing
> > wrong, also would it be easier to convert it to a VOB files. I don't

have
> > any issues burning VOB files. Thanks.
> >
> >

>
>




Chirashi 01-22-2004 01:28 PM

Re: Trying to convert my first movie
 
Nope because on the bottom it says 4.7 gigs, unless I am forgetting
something?
Is recoding really necessary?


"HaZ" <newsgroups@hazzad.dyndns.info> wrote in message
news:buo9hp$k1dj2$1@ID-170435.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Sure you not trying to create a cd session rather than a dvd session?
>
> HaZ
>
> "Tony" <tdale@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
> news:LCLPb.20022$9k7.368037@news.xtra.co.nz...
> > Its proably decided that a recode is needed, and that will be too big
> >
> > "Chirashi" <chirashi@nospam.comcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:nqSdnfwwQez18ZLdRVn-gg@comcast.com...
> > > Hey Guys
> > >
> > > I am having so much problem with burning AVI and

MPG
> > > file to DVD. I have a TDK 840G DVD burner, and when I try to use Nero

> or
> > > Roxio I get errors such as the disk is to big. I am wondering how can

a
> > MPG
> > > movie with the size of 786 meg can't fit into a 4.7 DVD media even

after
> > the
> > > conversion or a 532 avi movie can't fit into a DVD-R. When I try to

> burn
> > > these files and look on the bottom they both tell me it won't fit and

on
> > the
> > > bottom it clear says it over 4.7 gig. I was wondering what am I doing
> > > wrong, also would it be easier to convert it to a VOB files. I don't

> have
> > > any issues burning VOB files. Thanks.
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




Clay 01-22-2004 01:49 PM

Re: Trying to convert my first movie
 
On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 08:28:05 -0500, "Chirashi"
<chirashi@nospam.comcast.net> wrote:

>Nope because on the bottom it says 4.7 gigs, unless I am forgetting
>something?
>Is recoding really necessary?
>
>
>"HaZ" <newsgroups@hazzad.dyndns.info> wrote in message
>news:buo9hp$k1dj2$1@ID-170435.news.uni-berlin.de...
>> Sure you not trying to create a cd session rather than a dvd session?
>>
>> HaZ
>>
>> "Tony" <tdale@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
>> news:LCLPb.20022$9k7.368037@news.xtra.co.nz...
>> > Its proably decided that a recode is needed, and that will be too big
>> >
>> > "Chirashi" <chirashi@nospam.comcast.net> wrote in message
>> > news:nqSdnfwwQez18ZLdRVn-gg@comcast.com...
>> > > Hey Guys
>> > >
>> > > I am having so much problem with burning AVI and

>MPG
>> > > file to DVD. I have a TDK 840G DVD burner, and when I try to use Nero

>> or
>> > > Roxio I get errors such as the disk is to big. I am wondering how can

>a
>> > MPG
>> > > movie with the size of 786 meg can't fit into a 4.7 DVD media even

>after
>> > the
>> > > conversion or a 532 avi movie can't fit into a DVD-R. When I try to

>> burn
>> > > these files and look on the bottom they both tell me it won't fit and

>on
>> > the
>> > > bottom it clear says it over 4.7 gig. I was wondering what am I doing
>> > > wrong, also would it be easier to convert it to a VOB files. I don't

>> have
>> > > any issues burning VOB files. Thanks.
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >

>>
>>

>


I have a similar problem. I'm trying to re-encode a divx movie back
to dvd using NeroVision Express 2. The final size after encoding is
4.28 gig, but when I insert the blank dvd into drive, I'm informed
that there is not enough space on disk. I know that the limit is
about 4.3 gig, and if project size would not fit, Nero should have
informed me of this. I am using DVD-Video and TDK 2x disks.

Right now I'm saving the project to hard drive, and will try using
dvd shrink to see if I can make it fit that way, but perhaps someone
can shed some light on this. CAN Nero encode a divx file back to dvd
if I have the codecs?

TIA


DarkMatter 01-22-2004 03:17 PM

Re: Trying to convert my first movie
 
On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 21:43:59 +1100, "HaZ"
<newsgroups@hazzad.dyndns.info> Gave us:

Snipped retarded baby rip it bullshit.

Keep alt.video.dvd OUT of your stupid rip it posts, boys.

THIS group is NOT about burning ****ing discs.

Skid 01-22-2004 03:51 PM

Re: Trying to convert my first movie
 

"Chirashi" <chirashi@nospam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:nqSdnfwwQez18ZLdRVn-gg@comcast.com...
> Hey Guys
>
> I am having so much problem with burning AVI and MPG
> file to DVD. I have a TDK 840G DVD burner, and when I try to use Nero or
> Roxio I get errors such as the disk is to big. I am wondering how can a

MPG
> movie with the size of 786 meg can't fit into a 4.7 DVD media even after

the
> conversion or a 532 avi movie can't fit into a DVD-R. When I try to burn
> these files and look on the bottom they both tell me it won't fit and on

the
> bottom it clear says it over 4.7 gig. I was wondering what am I doing
> wrong, also would it be easier to convert it to a VOB files. I don't have
> any issues burning VOB files. Thanks.


First, this is not the group to post these questions.

What you need to do is read the .avi to DVDconversion guides at
www.dvdrhelp.com

I'm not familiar with Roxio, but in Nero there is a way to change the
settings to fit the disk. You'll find the info you need at the site above.



Al Bundy 01-22-2004 04:26 PM

Re: Trying to convert my first movie
 
Roxio sometimes interfers with other apps...I would uninstall Roxio. I
would also convert the mpgs to .vob files...just load the mpg into
windows media player and re-save it as a .vob file. Then use nero
express to design your DVD. Recode...a part of Nero Express...will fit
the material to the disk.


On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 01:26:34 -0500, "Chirashi"
<chirashi@nospam.comcast.net> wrote:

>Hey Guys
>
> I am having so much problem with burning AVI and MPG
>file to DVD. I have a TDK 840G DVD burner, and when I try to use Nero or
>Roxio I get errors such as the disk is to big. I am wondering how can a MPG
>movie with the size of 786 meg can't fit into a 4.7 DVD media even after the
>conversion or a 532 avi movie can't fit into a DVD-R. When I try to burn
>these files and look on the bottom they both tell me it won't fit and on the
>bottom it clear says it over 4.7 gig. I was wondering what am I doing
>wrong, also would it be easier to convert it to a VOB files. I don't have
>any issues burning VOB files. Thanks.
>



JamesMason 01-22-2004 06:43 PM

Re: Trying to convert my first movie
 
Chirashi,

What converted the AVI file to MPG? Chances are the 786-MEG MPEG
you're looking at is MPEG-1 encoded. This means it has to be encoded
again to MPEG-2 to meet DVD standards. My guess is that the DVD
burning software you're using is reconizing the video file as MPEG-1
and is estimating what the resulting MPEG-2 encoded version of that
file will be (which probably exceeds or comes in really close to
4.7-Gig mark), if this is happening the burning software is capable of
performing the reencode for you, but it's preventing it from
happening.

I still find this odd, MPEG-2 encoded video requires more hard drive
space (from my experience), but 4x as much? That doesn't sound right.

Some questions I have would be:

1. What version of Roxio are you using? I've never used their
software, but I've heard negative things, I suggest downloading the
latest trial version of Nero 6.3 and attempt the burn using that
software.

2. How long is the video clip? DVD video is marked in grades (sort of
like VHS) depending on quality vs compression. HQ 60-minutes, SP
120-minutes, LP 180-minutes, EP 240-minutes. The software you're using
may not be compressing the MPEG tight enough to fit. Using Nero, I
believe it selects the highest quality output based on the length of
the video being burned. I've never tried to change this setting.





"Chirashi" <chirashi@nospam.comcast.net> wrote in message news:<nqSdnfwwQez18ZLdRVn-gg@comcast.com>...
> Hey Guys
>
> I am having so much problem with burning AVI and MPG
> file to DVD. I have a TDK 840G DVD burner, and when I try to use Nero or
> Roxio I get errors such as the disk is to big. I am wondering how can a MPG
> movie with the size of 786 meg can't fit into a 4.7 DVD media even after the
> conversion or a 532 avi movie can't fit into a DVD-R. When I try to burn
> these files and look on the bottom they both tell me it won't fit and on the
> bottom it clear says it over 4.7 gig. I was wondering what am I doing
> wrong, also would it be easier to convert it to a VOB files. I don't have
> any issues burning VOB files. Thanks.



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