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Bill 01-05-2004 06:59 AM

OT: S Video Out on Digital Cable Box
 
This does not directly relate to DVD's, but I know people here can answer
the question....

My digital cable box (Motorola) has an "S VIDEO OUT" jack coming out the
back. Can I assume that hooking this directly to the TV input (instead of
coax) would improve the picture?

I know it makes a big difference on DVD's, but this is a different situation
as the box is being fed with Coaxial RF coming into the box. So is there an
improvement to be had?



Scot Gardner 01-05-2004 07:05 PM

Re: S Video Out on Digital Cable Box
 
"Bill" <st6_guy@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:cX7Kb.20123$_q5.2186@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> This does not directly relate to DVD's, but I know people here can
> answer the question....
>
> My digital cable box (Motorola) has an "S VIDEO OUT" jack coming out
> the back. Can I assume that hooking this directly to the TV input
> (instead of coax) would improve the picture?
>
> I know it makes a big difference on DVD's, but this is a different
> situation as the box is being fed with Coaxial RF coming into the box.
> So is there an improvement to be had?



The coaxial RF signal coming into the cable box contains both
proprietary video and audio signals which the cable box decodes. Your TV
does not have the ability to decode these signals.

The coaxial video cable coming into your TV from the cable box contains
both the decoded audio and video information (with the chroma and
luminance signals combined) from the cable box and must be received on
either channel 3 or 4 of your TV. The TV's tuner must now decode this
information.

An S-video cable going into your TV from the cable box contains separate
chroma (color) and luminance (picture) signals and this information
bypasses the tuner in your TV. This results in a much better picture.



Grand Inquisitor 01-05-2004 08:10 PM

Re: OT: S Video Out on Digital Cable Box
 
Bill wrote:

> This does not directly relate to DVD's, but I know people here can answer
> the question....
>
> My digital cable box (Motorola) has an "S VIDEO OUT" jack coming out the
> back. Can I assume that hooking this directly to the TV input (instead of
> coax) would improve the picture?
>
> I know it makes a big difference on DVD's, but this is a different situation
> as the box is being fed with Coaxial RF coming into the box. So is there an
> improvement to be had?
>
>


Yes, my PVR box has an S output and I notice an immediate improvement in
the picture. Everything looked much better, not as blurry and drab as
composite. I was impressed. I knew S-video improved DVD and LD
playback, but I didn't know what the cable box could do for the signal.
Must have a great comb filter.

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jay b 01-08-2004 03:04 AM

Re: OT: S Video Out on Digital Cable Box
 
Grand Inquisitor wrote:

> Bill wrote:
>
>> This does not directly relate to DVD's, but I know people here can answer
>> the question....
>>
>> My digital cable box (Motorola) has an "S VIDEO OUT" jack coming out the
>> back. Can I assume that hooking this directly to the TV input
>> (instead of
>> coax) would improve the picture?
>>
>> I know it makes a big difference on DVD's, but this is a different
>> situation
>> as the box is being fed with Coaxial RF coming into the box. So is
>> there an
>> improvement to be had?
>>
>>

>
> Yes, my PVR box has an S output and I notice an immediate improvement in
> the picture. Everything looked much better, not as blurry and drab as
> composite. I was impressed. I knew S-video improved DVD and LD
> playback, but I didn't know what the cable box could do for the signal.
> Must have a great comb filter.
>


Weird then because on my parents' satellite dish when I was over there
I told them they should use the S-Video connection instead of just
running a coaxial from it. Well he got a cable on hooked it up. You can
notice the sound is alot better, but the picture still is aro und the
same. And that's using 'input' on the televsion , NOT channel 3. Anyone
know why it'd be ? It's direct TV.

jason


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Justin 01-08-2004 03:09 AM

Re: OT: S Video Out on Digital Cable Box
 
jay b wrote on [Wed, 07 Jan 2004 22:04:01 -0500]:
> Grand Inquisitor wrote:
>
>> Bill wrote:
>>
>>> This does not directly relate to DVD's, but I know people here can answer
>>> the question....
>>>
>>> My digital cable box (Motorola) has an "S VIDEO OUT" jack coming out the
>>> back. Can I assume that hooking this directly to the TV input
>>> (instead of
>>> coax) would improve the picture?
>>>
>>> I know it makes a big difference on DVD's, but this is a different
>>> situation
>>> as the box is being fed with Coaxial RF coming into the box. So is
>>> there an
>>> improvement to be had?
>>>
>>>

>>
>> Yes, my PVR box has an S output and I notice an immediate improvement in
>> the picture. Everything looked much better, not as blurry and drab as
>> composite. I was impressed. I knew S-video improved DVD and LD
>> playback, but I didn't know what the cable box could do for the signal.
>> Must have a great comb filter.
>>

>
> Weird then because on my parents' satellite dish when I was over there
> I told them they should use the S-Video connection instead of just
> running a coaxial from it. Well he got a cable on hooked it up. You can
> notice the sound is alot better, but the picture still is aro und the
> same. And that's using 'input' on the televsion , NOT channel 3. Anyone
> know why it'd be ? It's direct TV.
>


The sound is a lot better?

Monte Castleman 01-08-2004 06:45 AM

Re: OT: S Video Out on Digital Cable Box
 
>> Yes, my PVR box has an S output and I notice an immediate improvement in
>> the picture. Everything looked much better, not as blurry and drab as
>> composite. I was impressed. I knew S-video improved DVD and LD
>> playback, but I didn't know what the cable box could do for the signal.
>> Must have a great comb filter.


I'm assuming you mean digital cable. At least in my area a PVR / cable combo
box is only offered with digital. Isn't that Y-R-B, hence no need for a comb
filter? At any rate, S-Video will not improve LD picture over composite
video, unless the comb filter in the player is better than the one in the TV.
>
> Weird then because on my parents' satellite dish when I was over there
>I told them they should use the S-Video connection instead of just
>running a coaxial from it. Well he got a cable on hooked it up. You can
>notice the sound is alot better, but the picture still is aro und the
>same. And that's using 'input' on the televsion , NOT channel 3. Anyone
>know why it'd be ? It's direct TV.


What kind of set are we talking about? The better and bigger the TV the more
difference you'll see. As for sound, I dunno if satellite boxes have MTS
encoding in the RF modulator, so they may not carry stereo out the coax.

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Codswallop 01-08-2004 09:17 AM

Re: OT: S Video Out on Digital Cable Box
 
On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 06:45:20 GMT, Monte Castleman wrote in
alt.video.dvd:

> As for sound, I dunno if satellite boxes have MTS encoding in the RF
> modulator, so they may not carry stereo out the coax.


The boxes (Welling[?]) my cable provider only have composite and mono
RCA. The only way to get stereo is through RF... Eww.

They apparently aren't considering digital at this time either. *sigh*

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Richard C. 01-08-2004 09:18 PM

Re: OT: S Video Out on Digital Cable Box
 

"jay b" <electric_chaos{delete.me...}@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
news:QT3Lb.51383$mH2.18836@read1.cgocable.net...
:
: Weird then because on my parents' satellite dish when I was over there
: I told them they should use the S-Video connection instead of just
: running a coaxial from it. Well he got a cable on hooked it up. You can
: notice the sound is alot better,

====================
What does the S-Video have to do with sound?

(hint: nothing)



Monte Castleman 01-08-2004 11:58 PM

Re: OT: S Video Out on Digital Cable Box
 
>What does the S-Video have to do with sound?
>
>(hint: nothing)
>

It means you are not using the coax connector for sound.

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Richard C. 01-09-2004 01:37 AM

Re: OT: S Video Out on Digital Cable Box
 

"Monte Castleman" <qmdcastle@skypoint.com> wrote in message
news:vvrrkvbnvsa979@corp.supernews.com...
: >What does the S-Video have to do with sound?
: >
: >(hint: nothing)
: >
: It means you are not using the coax connector for sound.
:
==============================
Sound does not transmit via S-Video, no matter what you are "not using".




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