uploading photos
 

I have a few questions I need help with
1) I am uploading files to Wal-Mart to get 4x6 pictures made. They want it
in tif or jpg. What one is better? the jpg appears to be much smaller for
the same picture. Does this mean it is less quality?
2) I work in a program that came with the camera called photo deluxe. I
have to reduce the picture size to make it fit under the 4meg max using tif.
is this bad? would I be better off sending the whole picture with jpg?
3)should I use the whole 4meg max on each picture?

any other pointers here?
Thanks
Kirk

Re: uploading photos
 

"Kirk Davison" <kirkdavison@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> I have a few questions I need help with
> 1) I am uploading files to Wal-Mart to get 4x6 pictures made. They want
it
> in tif or jpg. What one is better? the jpg appears to be much smaller
for
> the same picture. Does this mean it is less quality?

The difference in quality may not be noticable.

> 2) I work in a program that came with the camera called photo deluxe. I
> have to reduce the picture size to make it fit under the 4meg max using
tif.
> is this bad? would I be better off sending the whole picture with jpg?
> 3)should I use the whole 4meg max on each picture?
>
> any other pointers here?
> Thanks
> Kirk
>
The free softwarethat comes with a camera isn't usually very good. You can
do better. I recommebnd Paint Shop Pro. It has one-click modules that do a
good job on most photos, and then it has more powerful functions htta oyu
can lear as oyu go. PC World recently rated it as "Best Buy" among several
image editors. You can try it out free for 30 days by downloading it from
www.jasc.com. When oyu are ready to buy, look for a sale. You can often
get it for about half of list price.

Re: uploading photos
 

"Kirk Davison" <kirkdavison@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> I have a few questions I need help with
> 1) I am uploading files to Wal-Mart to get 4x6 pictures made. They want
it
> in tif or jpg. What one is better? the jpg appears to be much smaller
for
> the same picture. Does this mean it is less quality?

Depends on how much smaller. Odds are at 4x6, you won't see any difference
whatsoever.

> 2) I work in a program that came with the camera called photo deluxe. I
> have to reduce the picture size to make it fit under the 4meg max using
tif.
> is this bad? would I be better off sending the whole picture with jpg?

Send it as a jpg.

> 3)should I use the whole 4meg max on each picture?

Not needed for 4x6.

1 mb jpgs should be quite adequate for 4x6 and even 5x7 prints.

- jz

Re: uploading photos
 

Kirk Davison wrote:

> I have a few questions I need help with
> 1) I am uploading files to Wal-Mart to get 4x6 pictures made. They want it
> in tif or jpg. What one is better? the jpg appears to be much smaller for
> the same picture. Does this mean it is less quality?
> 2) I work in a program that came with the camera called photo deluxe. I
> have to reduce the picture size to make it fit under the 4meg max using tif.
> is this bad? would I be better off sending the whole picture with jpg?
> 3)should I use the whole 4meg max on each picture?
>
> any other pointers here?
> Thanks
> Kirk
>
>
1) Use the maximum pixel dimensions you can and save as a high quality
JPG. I find that 4 megapixel RAW photos reduce very nicely to 3-4 MB
using the highest quality "save as JPG" in Photoshop. If I try to save a
TIFF as a 4 MB file, over half the pixels must be discarded. It is very
difficult to see any difference between 4 megapixel TIFF and a 4 MB jpeg.

2) It might be OK for 4x6, but maybe you might want an 8x10 someday. In
that case you need the max number of pixels possible. Pixels rule.

3) Sure. I always do and the Wal-Mart pics are great.

Tip: If you order 8x10 prints and the person behind the counter can't
seem to find them, tell them to look in the bottom drawer of the file
cabinet. Happens every time :)

Re: uploading photos
 

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"Kirk Davison" <kirkdavison@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> I have a few questions I need help with
> 1) I am uploading files to Wal-Mart to get 4x6 pictures made. They want
it
> in tif or jpg. What one is better?

TIFF is better---no compression

the jpg appears to be much smaller for
> the same picture. Does this mean it is less quality?

Yes, but: For snaps, a high-quality JPEG is very good, and saves bandwidth.

> 2) I work in a program that came with the camera called photo deluxe. I
> have to reduce the picture size to make it fit under the 4meg max using
tif.
> is this bad? would I be better off sending the whole picture with jpg?

You are always better off not reducing resolution but using JPG instead.
You will see loss of resolution long before you will ever see JPG artifacts

> 3)should I use the whole 4meg max on each picture?

Start with a full-res picture, save as a high-quality JPG. If you are still
over the limit, go back to the orignal,a nd down-sample JUST ENOUGH to get
under the wire, then save again as JPG

Example:
My 2MP Canon would make a 6Mbyte TIFF (If that option existed). As it is,
it outputs a high qualtiy JPG at ~ 1Mbyte (6:1 compression)

If you have a 5Mpixel camera (15Mbyte file), with 6:1 compression, you will
get a 2.5 Mbyte file
>
> any other pointers here?
> Thanks
> Kirk
>
>

Re: uploading photos
 

"Kirk Davison" <kirkdavison@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> I have a few questions I need help with
> 1) I am uploading files to Wal-Mart to get 4x6 pictures made. They want
it
> in tif or jpg. What one is better? the jpg appears to be much smaller
for
> the same picture. Does this mean it is less quality?
> 2) I work in a program that came with the camera called photo deluxe. I
> have to reduce the picture size to make it fit under the 4meg max using
tif.
> is this bad? would I be better off sending the whole picture with jpg?
> 3)should I use the whole 4meg max on each picture?
>
> any other pointers here?
> Thanks
> Kirk
>
>

I would suggest going with someone like Costco for pictures. Wal-Mart is
putting more small American businesses out to pasture than any other company
or even industry.

Re: uploading photos
 

"Dan J. Smereczynski" <me@hyperx.com> wrote in message
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>
> I would suggest going with someone like Costco for pictures. Wal-Mart is
> putting more small American businesses out to pasture than any other
company
> or even industry.
>

I always find this line of logic rather interesting. While I do not deny
that Wal-Mart is the worlds largest retailer, what makes you think Costco
does not aspire to take that crown?
And what makes McDonalds, Exxon or safeway any more of a "good" community
citizen. How many mom and pops did they displace on their way up the later?

I am not really sure what the right anwer is, but I know it is not black or
white, be it digital or film. Had to bring it back on topic :)

Re: uploading photos
 

"Dan J. Smereczynski" <me@hyperx.com> wrote in message
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>

[snip]

>
> I would suggest going with someone like Costco for pictures. Wal-Mart is
> putting more small American businesses out to pasture than any other
company
> or even industry.

And buying from Costco will help small American businesses how?

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"Jeff Zawrotny" <photoNOSPAM@willmark.com> wrote in message
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> "Dan J. Smereczynski" <me@hyperx.com> wrote in message
> news:1008ir8rsqaj3e1@news.supernews.com...
> >
>
> [snip]
>
> >
> > I would suggest going with someone like Costco for pictures. Wal-Mart is
> > putting more small American businesses out to pasture than any other
> company
> > or even industry.
>
> And buying from Costco will help small American businesses how?
>
>

It's a smaller operation, does not use predatory pricing practices that
Wal-Mart does.

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"Why?" <why@nothotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Dan J. Smereczynski" <me@hyperx.com> wrote in message
> news:1008ir8rsqaj3e1@news.supernews.com...
> >
> > I would suggest going with someone like Costco for pictures. Wal-Mart is
> > putting more small American businesses out to pasture than any other
> company
> > or even industry.
> >
>
> I always find this line of logic rather interesting. While I do not deny
> that Wal-Mart is the worlds largest retailer, what makes you think Costco
> does not aspire to take that crown?
> And what makes McDonalds, Exxon or safeway any more of a "good" community
> citizen. How many mom and pops did they displace on their way up the
later?
>
> I am not really sure what the right anwer is, but I know it is not black
or
> white, be it digital or film. Had to bring it back on topic :)
>
>

I am not talking competition here. I am talking about what Wal-Mart does to
the folks that it buys from. Their 5% year over year mark down, basically
FORCING American companies to go overseas (like Levis). This is not the same
as McDonalds competing with a mom and pop restaurant. Huffy is another
example. They were forced by Wal-Mart to be made in Asia.