XPath / XSLT to extract 'overloaded' attribute
 

I want to create an XML configuration file which might look like

<REGION Name="Europe" WingDing="Blue">
<COUNTRY Name="UK" WingDing="white">
<TOWN Name="London" WingDing="Orange" />
</COUNTRY>
</REGION>
<REGION Name="NorthAmerica" WingDing="Yellow">
<COUNTRY Name="Canada">
<TOWN Name="Quebec" WingDing="Brown" />
<TOWN Name="Ontario" />
</COUNTRY>
</REGION>

Then I want to find a node (E.g. NorthAmerica/Canada/Ontario) and create an
XML Node with the values in that node PLUS any other values in nodes higher
up.

Specifically for any attribute I should pick the lowest occuring value.
Quebec would have a WIngDing of Yellow ('inheriting' from the Region node),
Quebec, Brown and London Orange.

Finding the node is easy with XPath, but I'm unsure how to pick the lowest
occuring attribute value, some kind of max(depth) operator would be required
and I do not seem to find one int my reference books. This sort of thing
can often be done with a chain of ifs, but it is inelegant.

Can any one make any suggestions?

thanks in advance

Iain

Re: XPath / XSLT to extract 'overloaded' attribute
 

I am sorry, but it is not clear what you want to achieve -- can you provide
a complete example and explantion?

I find this text quite contradictory:

> Then I want to find a node (E.g. NorthAmerica/Canada/Ontario) and create
an
> XML Node with the values in that node PLUS any other values in nodes
higher
> up.
>
> Specifically for any attribute I should pick the lowest occuring value.
> Quebec would have a WIngDing of Yellow ('inheriting' from the Region
node),
> Quebec, Brown and London Orange.
>


First you are speaking about NorthAmerica/Canada/Ontario , but then you
start speaking about Quebec ... ???

What is the meaning of this:

> Specifically for any attribute I should pick the lowest occuring value.
> Quebec would have a WIngDing of Yellow ('inheriting' from the Region
node),
> Quebec, Brown and London Orange.
>


=====
Cheers,

Dimitre Novatchev.
http://fxsl.sourceforge.net/ -- the home of FXSL


"Iain" <idownsXXXX@dircon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:dHZxb.225$5u2.204@newsfep1-gui.server.ntli.net...
> I want to create an XML configuration file which might look like
>
> <REGION Name="Europe" WingDing="Blue">
> <COUNTRY Name="UK" WingDing="white">
> <TOWN Name="London" WingDing="Orange" />
> </COUNTRY>
> </REGION>
> <REGION Name="NorthAmerica" WingDing="Yellow">
> <COUNTRY Name="Canada">
> <TOWN Name="Quebec" WingDing="Brown" />
> <TOWN Name="Ontario" />
> </COUNTRY>
> </REGION>
>
> Then I want to find a node (E.g. NorthAmerica/Canada/Ontario) and create
an
> XML Node with the values in that node PLUS any other values in nodes
higher
> up.
>
> Specifically for any attribute I should pick the lowest occuring value.
> Quebec would have a WIngDing of Yellow ('inheriting' from the Region
node),
> Quebec, Brown and London Orange.
>
> Finding the node is easy with XPath, but I'm unsure how to pick the lowest
> occuring attribute value, some kind of max(depth) operator would be
required
> and I do not seem to find one int my reference books. This sort of thing
> can often be done with a chain of ifs, but it is inelegant.
>
> Can any one make any suggestions?
>
> thanks in advance
>
> Iain
>
>

Re: XPath / XSLT to extract 'overloaded' attribute
 

Iain wrote:
> I want to create an XML configuration file which might look like
>
> <REGION Name="Europe" WingDing="Blue">
> <COUNTRY Name="UK" WingDing="white">
> <TOWN Name="London" WingDing="Orange" />
> </COUNTRY>
> </REGION>
> <REGION Name="NorthAmerica" WingDing="Yellow">
> <COUNTRY Name="Canada">
> <TOWN Name="Quebec" WingDing="Brown" />
> <TOWN Name="Ontario" />
> </COUNTRY>
> </REGION>
>
> Then I want to find a node (E.g. NorthAmerica/Canada/Ontario) and create an
> XML Node with the values in that node PLUS any other values in nodes higher
> up.
>
> Specifically for any attribute I should pick the lowest occuring value.
> Quebec would have a WIngDing of Yellow ('inheriting' from the Region node),
> Quebec, Brown and London Orange.
>
> Finding the node is easy with XPath, but I'm unsure how to pick the lowest
> occuring attribute value, some kind of max(depth) operator would be required
> and I do not seem to find one int my reference books. This sort of thing
> can often be done with a chain of ifs, but it is inelegant.
>
> Can any one make any suggestions?

ancestor-or-self::*/@WindDing

may be what you're after. BTW: I'd call that "inheritance" rather than
"overloading".

Re: XPath / XSLT to extract 'overloaded' attribute
 

I'm sorry if this is not clear.

I intended to indicate a configuration file with an hierarchical set of
nodes whereby TOWN was found in COUNTRY was found in REGION.

Towns at the bottom level in my example had names like Ontario, Quebec and
London.

Each town has a property (just made up as on example) called WingDing which
contains the name of a colour.

It is may aim that the WingDing property can be applied at any level as a
kind of default. SO if there is a 'WingDing' property set at a REGION level
then it will apply to all TOWNs in all COUNTRYs in that region unless
over-ridden at a COUNTRY or TOWN level.

What I want to do is to effectively find any give TOWN and a full set of
properties for that town regardless of if the property is set in the TOWN
node or the higher level COUNTRY or REGION node containing it.

My expectation was that I could do this using XSLT to find the node with an
XPath search and then to populate it with a known set of properties which
were present in that node or in a containing node.

I have never used XSLT (or much XPath) and it seemed that I could see
complex hard to maintain approaches, but rather hoped there was an elegant
approach which I had missed. Hence I threw myself on the mercy of the list!

Obviously in my real world applicaitons there could be many levels of
nesting of the nodes dozens or hundreds of different isntances at any level
and many attributes.

I would also be interested in applying the same techniques to elements, but
I imagine that solving the attribute case solves the element case too.

I hope this makes a bit more sense.

One of the actual applications is for a text formatting application where I
wish to be able to set a font at the top level of a set of XML based object
descriptions and override it in sub areas, panels, and specific text
instances. Holding the font in all places where it may be (for a complex
description) would be cumbersome and hard to maintain (the specific
application is to provide a layout template which I would wish to maintain
manually - requiring a font object in all bottom level text descriptions
would make for a lot of typing).

Iain
"Dimitre Novatchev" <dnovatchev@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:bqa0i0$1ug329$1@ID-152440.news.uni-berlin.de...
> I am sorry, but it is not clear what you want to achieve -- can you
provide
> a complete example and explantion?
>
> I find this text quite contradictory:
>
> > Then I want to find a node (E.g. NorthAmerica/Canada/Ontario) and create
> an
> > XML Node with the values in that node PLUS any other values in nodes
> higher
> > up.
> >
> > Specifically for any attribute I should pick the lowest occuring value.
> > Quebec would have a WIngDing of Yellow ('inheriting' from the Region
> node),
> > Quebec, Brown and London Orange.
> >
>
>
> First you are speaking about NorthAmerica/Canada/Ontario , but then you
> start speaking about Quebec ... ???
>
> What is the meaning of this:
>
> > Specifically for any attribute I should pick the lowest occuring value.
> > Quebec would have a WIngDing of Yellow ('inheriting' from the Region
> node),
> > Quebec, Brown and London Orange.
> >
>
>
> =====
> Cheers,
>
> Dimitre Novatchev.
> http://fxsl.sourceforge.net/ -- the home of FXSL
>
>
> "Iain" <idownsXXXX@dircon.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:dHZxb.225$5u2.204@newsfep1-gui.server.ntli.net...
> > I want to create an XML configuration file which might look like
> >
> > <REGION Name="Europe" WingDing="Blue">
> > <COUNTRY Name="UK" WingDing="white">
> > <TOWN Name="London" WingDing="Orange" />
> > </COUNTRY>
> > </REGION>
> > <REGION Name="NorthAmerica" WingDing="Yellow">
> > <COUNTRY Name="Canada">
> > <TOWN Name="Quebec" WingDing="Brown" />
> > <TOWN Name="Ontario" />
> > </COUNTRY>
> > </REGION>
> >
> > Then I want to find a node (E.g. NorthAmerica/Canada/Ontario) and create
> an
> > XML Node with the values in that node PLUS any other values in nodes
> higher
> > up.
> >
> > Specifically for any attribute I should pick the lowest occuring value.
> > Quebec would have a WIngDing of Yellow ('inheriting' from the Region
> node),
> > Quebec, Brown and London Orange.
> >
> > Finding the node is easy with XPath, but I'm unsure how to pick the
lowest
> > occuring attribute value, some kind of max(depth) operator would be
> required
> > and I do not seem to find one int my reference books. This sort of
thing
> > can often be done with a chain of ifs, but it is inelegant.
> >
> > Can any one make any suggestions?
> >
> > thanks in advance
> >
> > Iain
> >
> >
>
>

Re: XPath / XSLT to extract 'overloaded' attribute
 

I understand.

As Julian has pointed out, the following XPath expression provides the
attribute of the first ancestor (or self, if no ancestor has such attribute)
in document order:

ancestor-or-self::*/@WindDing

So, if a node does not have a "WindDing" attribute, it should inherit it
from the earliest ancestor that has it ?

Or, will this node inherit the attribute from the nearest ancestor ?

In case a node already has such-named attribute specified, then it should
not inherit from its ancestors ?


=====
Cheers,

Dimitre Novatchev.
http://fxsl.sourceforge.net/ -- the home of FXSL



"Iain" <idownsXXXX@dircon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:cb7yb.433$5u2.22@newsfep1-gui.server.ntli.net...
> I'm sorry if this is not clear.
>
> I intended to indicate a configuration file with an hierarchical set of
> nodes whereby TOWN was found in COUNTRY was found in REGION.
>
> Towns at the bottom level in my example had names like Ontario, Quebec and
> London.
>
> Each town has a property (just made up as on example) called WingDing
which
> contains the name of a colour.
>
> It is may aim that the WingDing property can be applied at any level as a
> kind of default. SO if there is a 'WingDing' property set at a REGION
level
> then it will apply to all TOWNs in all COUNTRYs in that region unless
> over-ridden at a COUNTRY or TOWN level.
>
> What I want to do is to effectively find any give TOWN and a full set of
> properties for that town regardless of if the property is set in the TOWN
> node or the higher level COUNTRY or REGION node containing it.
>
> My expectation was that I could do this using XSLT to find the node with
an
> XPath search and then to populate it with a known set of properties which
> were present in that node or in a containing node.
>
> I have never used XSLT (or much XPath) and it seemed that I could see
> complex hard to maintain approaches, but rather hoped there was an elegant
> approach which I had missed. Hence I threw myself on the mercy of the
list!
>
> Obviously in my real world applicaitons there could be many levels of
> nesting of the nodes dozens or hundreds of different isntances at any
level
> and many attributes.
>
> I would also be interested in applying the same techniques to elements,
but
> I imagine that solving the attribute case solves the element case too.
>
> I hope this makes a bit more sense.
>
> One of the actual applications is for a text formatting application where
I
> wish to be able to set a font at the top level of a set of XML based
object
> descriptions and override it in sub areas, panels, and specific text
> instances. Holding the font in all places where it may be (for a complex
> description) would be cumbersome and hard to maintain (the specific
> application is to provide a layout template which I would wish to maintain
> manually - requiring a font object in all bottom level text descriptions
> would make for a lot of typing).
>
> Iain
> "Dimitre Novatchev" <dnovatchev@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:bqa0i0$1ug329$1@ID-152440.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > I am sorry, but it is not clear what you want to achieve -- can you
> provide
> > a complete example and explantion?
> >
> > I find this text quite contradictory:
> >
> > > Then I want to find a node (E.g. NorthAmerica/Canada/Ontario) and
create
> > an
> > > XML Node with the values in that node PLUS any other values in nodes
> > higher
> > > up.
> > >
> > > Specifically for any attribute I should pick the lowest occuring
value.
> > > Quebec would have a WIngDing of Yellow ('inheriting' from the Region
> > node),
> > > Quebec, Brown and London Orange.
> > >
> >
> >
> > First you are speaking about NorthAmerica/Canada/Ontario , but then you
> > start speaking about Quebec ... ???
> >
> > What is the meaning of this:
> >
> > > Specifically for any attribute I should pick the lowest occuring
value.
> > > Quebec would have a WIngDing of Yellow ('inheriting' from the Region
> > node),
> > > Quebec, Brown and London Orange.
> > >
> >
> >
> > =====
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Dimitre Novatchev.
> > http://fxsl.sourceforge.net/ -- the home of FXSL
> >
> >
> > "Iain" <idownsXXXX@dircon.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:dHZxb.225$5u2.204@newsfep1-gui.server.ntli.net...
> > > I want to create an XML configuration file which might look like
> > >
> > > <REGION Name="Europe" WingDing="Blue">
> > > <COUNTRY Name="UK" WingDing="white">
> > > <TOWN Name="London" WingDing="Orange" />
> > > </COUNTRY>
> > > </REGION>
> > > <REGION Name="NorthAmerica" WingDing="Yellow">
> > > <COUNTRY Name="Canada">
> > > <TOWN Name="Quebec" WingDing="Brown" />
> > > <TOWN Name="Ontario" />
> > > </COUNTRY>
> > > </REGION>
> > >
> > > Then I want to find a node (E.g. NorthAmerica/Canada/Ontario) and
create
> > an
> > > XML Node with the values in that node PLUS any other values in nodes
> > higher
> > > up.
> > >
> > > Specifically for any attribute I should pick the lowest occuring
value.
> > > Quebec would have a WIngDing of Yellow ('inheriting' from the Region
> > node),
> > > Quebec, Brown and London Orange.
> > >
> > > Finding the node is easy with XPath, but I'm unsure how to pick the
> lowest
> > > occuring attribute value, some kind of max(depth) operator would be
> > required
> > > and I do not seem to find one int my reference books. This sort of
> thing
> > > can often be done with a chain of ifs, but it is inelegant.
> > >
> > > Can any one make any suggestions?
> > >
> > > thanks in advance
> > >
> > > Iain
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Re: XPath / XSLT to extract 'overloaded' attribute
 

Thanks, Dimitri, this looks like what I want. I shall try it out a bit
later on.

I didn't understand the reference to 'Julian' - I don't see an message form
him in htis thread, or have I missed something!

Iain
"Dimitre Novatchev" <dnovatchev@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:bqb2v9$1vujd9$1@ID-152440.news.uni-berlin.de...
> I understand.
>
> As Julian has pointed out, the following XPath expression provides the
> attribute of the first ancestor (or self, if no ancestor has such
attribute)
> in document order:
>
> ancestor-or-self::*/@WindDing
>
> So, if a node does not have a "WindDing" attribute, it should inherit it
> from the earliest ancestor that has it ?
>
> Or, will this node inherit the attribute from the nearest ancestor ?
>
> In case a node already has such-named attribute specified, then it should
> not inherit from its ancestors ?
>
>
> =====
> Cheers,
>
> Dimitre Novatchev.
> http://fxsl.sourceforge.net/ -- the home of FXSL
>
>
>
> "Iain" <idownsXXXX@dircon.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:cb7yb.433$5u2.22@newsfep1-gui.server.ntli.net...
> > I'm sorry if this is not clear.
> >
> > I intended to indicate a configuration file with an hierarchical set of
> > nodes whereby TOWN was found in COUNTRY was found in REGION.
> >
> > Towns at the bottom level in my example had names like Ontario, Quebec
and
> > London.
> >
> > Each town has a property (just made up as on example) called WingDing
> which
> > contains the name of a colour.
> >
> > It is may aim that the WingDing property can be applied at any level as
a
> > kind of default. SO if there is a 'WingDing' property set at a REGION
> level
> > then it will apply to all TOWNs in all COUNTRYs in that region unless
> > over-ridden at a COUNTRY or TOWN level.
> >
> > What I want to do is to effectively find any give TOWN and a full set of
> > properties for that town regardless of if the property is set in the
TOWN
> > node or the higher level COUNTRY or REGION node containing it.
> >
> > My expectation was that I could do this using XSLT to find the node with
> an
> > XPath search and then to populate it with a known set of properties
which
> > were present in that node or in a containing node.
> >
> > I have never used XSLT (or much XPath) and it seemed that I could see
> > complex hard to maintain approaches, but rather hoped there was an
elegant
> > approach which I had missed. Hence I threw myself on the mercy of the
> list!
> >
> > Obviously in my real world applicaitons there could be many levels of
> > nesting of the nodes dozens or hundreds of different isntances at any
> level
> > and many attributes.
> >
> > I would also be interested in applying the same techniques to elements,
> but
> > I imagine that solving the attribute case solves the element case too.
> >
> > I hope this makes a bit more sense.
> >
> > One of the actual applications is for a text formatting application
where
> I
> > wish to be able to set a font at the top level of a set of XML based
> object
> > descriptions and override it in sub areas, panels, and specific text
> > instances. Holding the font in all places where it may be (for a
complex
> > description) would be cumbersome and hard to maintain (the specific
> > application is to provide a layout template which I would wish to
maintain
> > manually - requiring a font object in all bottom level text descriptions
> > would make for a lot of typing).
> >
> > Iain
> > "Dimitre Novatchev" <dnovatchev@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:bqa0i0$1ug329$1@ID-152440.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > I am sorry, but it is not clear what you want to achieve -- can you
> > provide
> > > a complete example and explantion?
> > >
> > > I find this text quite contradictory:
> > >
> > > > Then I want to find a node (E.g. NorthAmerica/Canada/Ontario) and
> create
> > > an
> > > > XML Node with the values in that node PLUS any other values in nodes
> > > higher
> > > > up.
> > > >
> > > > Specifically for any attribute I should pick the lowest occuring
> value.
> > > > Quebec would have a WIngDing of Yellow ('inheriting' from the Region
> > > node),
> > > > Quebec, Brown and London Orange.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > First you are speaking about NorthAmerica/Canada/Ontario , but then
you
> > > start speaking about Quebec ... ???
> > >
> > > What is the meaning of this:
> > >
> > > > Specifically for any attribute I should pick the lowest occuring
> value.
> > > > Quebec would have a WIngDing of Yellow ('inheriting' from the Region
> > > node),
> > > > Quebec, Brown and London Orange.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > =====
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Dimitre Novatchev.
> > > http://fxsl.sourceforge.net/ -- the home of FXSL
> > >
> > >
> > > "Iain" <idownsXXXX@dircon.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > news:dHZxb.225$5u2.204@newsfep1-gui.server.ntli.net...
> > > > I want to create an XML configuration file which might look like
> > > >
> > > > <REGION Name="Europe" WingDing="Blue">
> > > > <COUNTRY Name="UK" WingDing="white">
> > > > <TOWN Name="London" WingDing="Orange" />
> > > > </COUNTRY>
> > > > </REGION>
> > > > <REGION Name="NorthAmerica" WingDing="Yellow">
> > > > <COUNTRY Name="Canada">
> > > > <TOWN Name="Quebec" WingDing="Brown" />
> > > > <TOWN Name="Ontario" />
> > > > </COUNTRY>
> > > > </REGION>
> > > >
> > > > Then I want to find a node (E.g. NorthAmerica/Canada/Ontario) and
> create
> > > an
> > > > XML Node with the values in that node PLUS any other values in nodes
> > > higher
> > > > up.
> > > >
> > > > Specifically for any attribute I should pick the lowest occuring
> value.
> > > > Quebec would have a WIngDing of Yellow ('inheriting' from the Region
> > > node),
> > > > Quebec, Brown and London Orange.
> > > >
> > > > Finding the node is easy with XPath, but I'm unsure how to pick the
> > lowest
> > > > occuring attribute value, some kind of max(depth) operator would be
> > > required
> > > > and I do not seem to find one int my reference books. This sort of
> > thing
> > > > can often be done with a chain of ifs, but it is inelegant.
> > > >
> > > > Can any one make any suggestions?
> > > >
> > > > thanks in advance
> > > >
> > > > Iain
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Re: XPath / XSLT to extract 'overloaded' attribute
 

"Iain" <idownsXXXX@dircon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:pjiyb.24$bj5.22@newsfep1-gui.server.ntli.net...
> Thanks, Dimitri, this looks like what I want. I shall try it out a bit
> later on.
>
> I didn't understand the reference to 'Julian' - I don't see an message
form
> him in htis thread, or have I missed something!

It is in the thread -- in case your newsreader does not show Julian's
message, see it here:

http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&...3DN%26tab%3Dwg


=====
Cheers,

Dimitre Novatchev.
http://fxsl.sourceforge.net/ -- the home of FXSL

Re: XPath / XSLT to extract 'overloaded' attribute
 

Thanks, Dimitre. I found julian in google, but not my newsreader (and
thanks julian!)!

I've been playing with ancestor-or-self and got something that seems to work
for attributes.

<xsl:copy-of select="ancestor-or-self::*/@ClipDirectory" />

but when I try and make it work for elements I get stuck. this is meant to
find the lowest MACHINE element which exists at or above the current node.

<xsl:copy-of select="ancestor-or-self::*/Machine[last()]" />

it returns all of them. I've tried various permutations which either return
nothing at all or all elements (or refuse to run!).

Hope you can help out here!

thanks

iain

Re: XPath / XSLT to extract 'overloaded' attribute
 

In article <Ld9zb.1339$WD3.908@newsfep1-gui.server.ntli.net>,
Iain <idownsXXXX@dircon.co.uk> wrote:

% but when I try and make it work for elements I get stuck. this is meant to
% find the lowest MACHINE element which exists at or above the current node.
%
% <xsl:copy-of select="ancestor-or-self::*/Machine[last()]" />

would

ancestor-or-self::*/Machine[not(descendant::Machine)]

do what you want?

In any case, one problem with your test is that last() is always going
to be seen as true. Your test should be position() = last(). Having said
that, it won't be testing what you want, because in that context, the
position is the position in the document tree, not the position in the
list of Machine nodes.

You could get position() and last() to do what you want using xsl:for-each

<xsl:for-each select="ancestor-or-self::*/Machine">
<xsl:if test='position() = last()'>
<xsl:copy-of select='.'/>
</xsl:if>
</xsl:for-each>
--

Patrick TJ McPhee
East York Canada
ptjm@interlog.com

Re: XPath / XSLT to extract 'overloaded' attribute
 

Thank you. The first suggestion, which I take it should find only those
Machine elements who don't have descendents with Machine elements, did *not*
work. I still got multiple results.

The second suggestion using the for loop and test worked fine! I was kind
of hoping that there was a neater way doing this, but, hey! it works.

Iain

"Patrick TJ McPhee" <ptjm@interlog.com> wrote in message
news:bqjvh5$f0b$3@news.eusc.inter.net...
> In article <Ld9zb.1339$WD3.908@newsfep1-gui.server.ntli.net>,
> Iain <idownsXXXX@dircon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> % but when I try and make it work for elements I get stuck. this is meant
to
> % find the lowest MACHINE element which exists at or above the current
node.
> %
> % <xsl:copy-of select="ancestor-or-self::*/Machine[last()]" />
>
> would
>
> ancestor-or-self::*/Machine[not(descendant::Machine)]
>
> do what you want?
>
> In any case, one problem with your test is that last() is always going
> to be seen as true. Your test should be position() = last(). Having said
> that, it won't be testing what you want, because in that context, the
> position is the position in the document tree, not the position in the
> list of Machine nodes.
>
> You could get position() and last() to do what you want using xsl:for-each
>
> <xsl:for-each select="ancestor-or-self::*/Machine">
> <xsl:if test='position() = last()'>
> <xsl:copy-of select='.'/>
> </xsl:if>
> </xsl:for-each>
> --
>
> Patrick TJ McPhee
> East York Canada
> ptjm@interlog.com