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Luigi Donatello Asero 09-21-2005 01:35 AM

Re: Please criticize my website.
 
Is it only Firefox which presents this problem?
Does it perhaps not support CSS the same way other browers do?


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rf 09-21-2005 02:09 AM

Re: Please criticize my website.
 
Luigi Donatello Asero wrote:

> Is it only Firefox which presents this problem?


What problem? You have been here long enough to know to quote a bit of what
you are replying to :-)

> Does it perhaps not support CSS the same way other browers do?


It's the other way round. IE does not support enough CSS to render the table
the way you have specified. FF does understand enough CSS and is simply
doing what you tell it to. It is not a problem with the browser, it is a
problem with your CSS.

Refer to my other post in this thread for the solution.

BTW do NOT use IE as your test browser. Use a modern browser and once the
page is complete check it with IE and then apply any hacks required to make
it work with IE.

Cheers
Richard.



Luigi Donatello Asero 09-21-2005 03:38 AM

Re: Please criticize my website.
 

"rf" <@invalid.com> skrev i meddelandet
news:dh3Ye.3056$0E5.2303@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> Luigi Donatello Asero wrote:
>
> > Is it only Firefox which presents this problem?

>
> What problem? You have been here long enough to know to quote a bit of

what
> you are replying to :-)
>
> > Does it perhaps not support CSS the same way other browers do?

>
> It's the other way round. IE does not support enough CSS to render the

table
> the way you have specified. FF does understand enough CSS and is simply
> doing what you tell it to. It is not a problem with the browser, it is a
> problem with your CSS.
>
> Refer to my other post in this thread for the solution.



Ok. I do not have anything to object.
Does it look better now? I used display: table
I had probably not realized the problem because I had not tested the page in
other browsers.
One practical question on this issue.
Can I upload several browsers in the same computer without getting any
problems?
Which text browser do you recommend?
I do not like paying by using credit cards, so if there are any browsers (
for example Opera) which are not free of charge but still useful (for
example to create a WAP version of the site for mobile telephones)
I would
like to know how I could acquire them without using a credit card, that
means, for example by getting an invoice.


--
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(sono italiano ma vivo in Svezia)
(я итальянец но я живу в Швеции )
(我是 意大利人 , 但是 我 住 在 瑞典)
(minä olen Italian kansalainen, mutta minä asun Ruotsissa)
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Beauregard T. Shagnasty 09-21-2005 03:49 AM

Re: Please criticize my website.
 
Luigi Donatello Asero wrote:
> Ok. I do not have anything to object. Does it look better now? I
> used display: table


No, it is still broken. Why do you want to display those pictures and
their descriptions in a table? That's a design error. Float the
pictures in the column and let the text flow around them.

And while you're at it, make the left and right columns much narrower,
because they are what is causing your center column to be so squished.

> I had probably not realized the problem because I had not tested
> the page in other browsers.


Well ... you must be a newbie. <lol>

> One practical question on this issue. Can I upload several browsers
> in the same computer without getting any problems?


Upload? You mean install. Yes, I have nine browsers on this computer,
and others here have many more.

> Which text browser do you recommend?


Lynx?

> I do not like paying by using credit cards, so if there are any
> browsers ( for example Opera) which are not free of charge but
> still useful (for example to create a WAP version of the site for
> mobile telephones)


Opera IS free. (This is new, however, but they always did have an
ad-supported free version.)
http://www.opera.com/free

> I would like to know how I could acquire them without using a
> credit card, that means, for example by getting an invoice.


Ahh, a tax deduction. <har!>

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Jonathan N. Little 09-21-2005 03:54 AM

Re: Please criticize my website.
 
Luigi Donatello Asero wrote:

> Is it only Firefox which presents this problem?
> Does it perhaps not support CSS the same way other browers do?
>
>


Nope same for the other Geckos, Opera hoses the table in a new different
manner! Like it is all stacked 1 one column. Bet you only checked with IE

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Luigi Donatello Asero 09-21-2005 04:04 AM

Re: Please criticize my website.
 

"Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous@example.invalid> skrev i meddelandet
news:iL4Ye.115030$Hx4.97479@twister.nyroc.rr.com.. .
> Luigi Donatello Asero wrote:
> > Ok. I do not have anything to object. Does it look better now? I
> > used display: table

>
> No, it is still broken. Why do you want to display those pictures and
> their descriptions in a table? That's a design error. Float the
> pictures in the column and let the text flow around them.



Well, the descriptions can be considered as data, cannot they?
But do you mean perhaps something like that
https://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/sv...tartiklar.html ?

> And while you're at it, make the left and right columns much narrower,
> because they are what is causing your center column to be so squished.


I guess that I would need a logotype which is less large than this one,
wouldn´t I?

> > I had probably not realized the problem because I had not tested
> > the page in other browsers.

>
> Well ... you must be a newbie. <lol>


I would put it in different terms: as long as I live I´ll probably have
something to learn.

> > One practical question on this issue. Can I upload several browsers
> > in the same computer without getting any problems?

>
> Upload? You mean install. Yes, I have nine browsers on this computer,
> and others here have many more.



Yes, install.

> > Which text browser do you recommend?

>
> Lynx?



> > I do not like paying by using credit cards, so if there are any
> > browsers ( for example Opera) which are not free of charge but
> > still useful (for example to create a WAP version of the site for
> > mobile telephones)

>
> Opera IS free. (This is new, however, but they always did have an
> ad-supported free version.)
> http://www.opera.com/free
>
> > I would like to know how I could acquire them without using a
> > credit card, that means, for example by getting an invoice.

>
> Ahh, a tax deduction. <har!>


Also for this reason given that I want to use the software to build the
website of my one-man business.
But it is a security problem at the same time.


--
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(sono italiano ma vivo in Svezia)
(я итальянец но я живу в Швеции )
(我是 意大利人 , 但是 我 住 在 瑞典)
(minä olen Italian kansalainen, mutta minä asun Ruotsissa)
https://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/






Beauregard T. Shagnasty 09-21-2005 04:48 AM

Re: Please criticize my website.
 
Luigi Donatello Asero wrote:
> "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous@example.invalid> skrev i
> meddelandet news:iL4Ye.115030$Hx4.97479@twister.nyroc.rr.com.. .
>
>> Luigi Donatello Asero wrote:
>>
>>> Ok. I do not have anything to object. Does it look better now?
>>> I used display: table

>>
>> No, it is still broken. Why do you want to display those pictures
>> and their descriptions in a table? That's a design error. Float
>> the pictures in the column and let the text flow around them.

>
> Well, the descriptions can be considered as data, cannot they? But


No, I would consider them captions, or descriptions.

> do you mean perhaps something like that
> https://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/sv...tartiklar.html ?


That page has nothing like the /index.php page.

You don't understand the concept of inline floats, do you?

>> And while you're at it, make the left and right columns much
>> narrower, because they are what is causing your center column to
>> be so squished.

>
> I guess that I would need a logotype which is less large than this
> one, wouldnt I?


I said the left and right columns. The left columns contains all those
language buttons, or other orange buttons. That column is too wide.

And that picture of the buzzard takes up way too much space.

>>> I had probably not realized the problem because I had not
>>> tested the page in other browsers.

>>
>> Well ... you must be a newbie. <lol>

>
> I would put it in different terms: as long as I live Ill probably
> have something to learn.


We all will, but you seem to not learn from advice given here.

> Also for this reason given that I want to use the software to
> build the website of my one-man business. But it is a security
> problem at the same time.


It is no security problem to use multiple browsers. At this moment, I
have your page open in Firefox, Opera, IE6, K-Meleon, and WebTV. It is
broken in all of them. Heck, WebTV users can't see it *at all*. I
guess WebTV doesn't allow https pages. <g>

Oh, and Firefox has been free since its inception, three? years ago.

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Luigi Donatello Asero 09-21-2005 05:01 AM

Re: Please criticize my website.
 

"Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous@example.invalid> skrev i meddelandet
news:LC5Ye.87756$EX.27750@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> Luigi Donatello Asero wrote:
> > "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous@example.invalid> skrev i
> > meddelandet news:iL4Ye.115030$Hx4.97479@twister.nyroc.rr.com.. .


> > Well, the descriptions can be considered as data, cannot they? But

>
> No, I would consider them captions, or descriptions.
>
> > do you mean perhaps something like that
> > https://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/sv...tartiklar.html ?

>
> That page has nothing like the /index.php page.


Are you sure about that?

> You don't understand the concept of inline floats, do you?


I suppose that you are referring to visual formatting


> >> And while you're at it, make the left and right columns much
> >> narrower, because they are what is causing your center column to
> >> be so squished.

> >
> > I guess that I would need a logotype which is less large than this
> > one, wouldn´t I?

>
> I said the left and right columns. The left columns contains all those
> language buttons, or other orange buttons. That column is too wide.


Not any more. Which is the right column for you?
Do you mean the right column of the table with the description?

> And that picture of the buzzard takes up way too much space.


> >>> I had probably not realized the problem because I had not
> >>> tested the page in other browsers.
> >>
> >> Well ... you must be a newbie. <lol>

> >
> > I would put it in different terms: as long as I live I´ll probably
> > have something to learn.

>
> We all will, but you seem to not learn from advice given here.


No, you do not seem to accept that I sometimes share other people´s
opinions and other times not.
And it is not true either that I have not used any advice which I have read
here.
But it is also true that there are people writing here who have different
opinions on the same subject.
Take this example about pictures and descriptions of these pictures which
could be regarded as data.
I think that there had been someone else here before who had this opinion.

> > Also for this reason given that I want to use the software to
> > build the website of my one-man business. But it is a security
> > problem at the same time.

>
> It is no security problem to use multiple browsers.


I was referring to security problems concerning the use of credit cards on
other websites!

At this moment, I
> have your page open in Firefox, Opera, IE6, K-Meleon, and WebTV. It is
> broken in all of them. Heck, WebTV users can't see it *at all*. I
> guess WebTV doesn't allow https pages. <g>
>
> Oh, and Firefox has been free since its inception, three? years ago.


Now, on the one hand, it is better to check up the page in several browsers
but on the other hand, why should I check up first the browsers which a
lower number of users use?


--
Luigi Donatello Asero
(sono italiano ma vivo in Svezia)
(я итальянец но я живу в Швеции )
(我是 意大利人 , 但是 我 住 在 瑞典)
(minä olen Italian kansalainen, mutta minä asun Ruotsissa)
https://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/







Luigi Donatello Asero 09-21-2005 05:03 AM

Re: Please criticize my website.
 

"Luigi Donatello Asero" <jaggillarfotboll@telia.com> skrev i meddelandet
news:RO5Ye.146734$dP1.503637@newsc.telia.net...
> Now, on the one hand, it is better to check up the page in several

browsers
> but on the other hand, why should I check up first the browsers which a
> lower number of users use?


which have a lower number of users rather than with IE which has a higher
and afterwards check up the others?


--
Luigi Donatello Asero
(sono italiano ma vivo in Svezia)
(я итальянец но я живу в Швеции )
(我是 意大利人 , 但是 我 住 在 瑞典)
(minä olen Italian kansalainen, mutta minä asun Ruotsissa)
https://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/






Jafar As-Sadiq Calley 09-21-2005 09:30 AM

Re: Please criticize my website.
 
On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 03:38:52 +0000, Luigi Donatello Asero wrote:

> Can I upload several browsers in the same computer without getting any
> problems?


Yes. I have 8 :)

> Which text browser do you recommend?


Text browser? I'd suggest lynx or w3m. I don't know if they have windows
version or not though.

> I do not like paying by using credit cards, so if there are any browsers (
> for example Opera) which are not free of charge but still useful

<snip>

Firefox, Mozilla, and Opera are free of charge. I usually design for
the standards compliant firefox and mozilla and usually, the rest of the
browsers play fair when rendering my pages faithfully. If you design your
pages around IE, you are going to run into troubles with the rest. Fact of
life ;)

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