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Cogito 02-10-2004 09:43 PM

Offline browsing program
 
From a certain web site I have downloaded a file with a file type of
..chm that enables to use the entire web site offline. What software is
used create it?

Mark Parnell 02-10-2004 09:50 PM

Re: Offline browsing program
 
On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 21:43:42 GMT, Cogito <nospam@nospam.nospam> declared
in alt.html:

> From a certain web site I have downloaded a file with a file type of
> .chm that enables to use the entire web site offline. What software is
> used create it?


That's a M$ HTML help file. Most programs that can create standard help
files (e.g. RoboHELP) can do that as well.

--
Mark Parnell
http://www.clarkecomputers.com.au

Pete Lees 02-11-2004 10:47 AM

Re: Offline browsing program
 
Cogito <nospam@nospam.nospam> wrote:

> From a certain web site I have downloaded a file with a file type of
> .chm that enables to use the entire web site offline. What software is
> used create it?


You can create these files with Microsoft's HTML Help Workshop, a free
utility available from:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en...pDownloads.asp

For more information, see:

http://helpware.net/htmlhelp/basics.htm
http://www.mshelpwiki.com/index.php?page=HTMLHelp

--
Pete (Microsoft Help MVP)

Cogito 02-11-2004 11:46 AM

Re: Offline browsing program
 
On 11 Feb 2004 02:47:56 -0800, PD.Lees@btinternet.com (Pete Lees)
wrote:

>Cogito <nospam@nospam.nospam> wrote:
>
>> From a certain web site I have downloaded a file with a file type of
>> .chm that enables to use the entire web site offline. What software is
>> used create it?

>
>You can create these files with Microsoft's HTML Help Workshop, a free
>utility available from:
>
>http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en...pDownloads.asp
>
>For more information, see:
>
>http://helpware.net/htmlhelp/basics.htm
>http://www.mshelpwiki.com/index.php?page=HTMLHelp



Thank you very much for the good links.

I have installed the Microsoft Help Workshop but it looks quite
involved to actually understand and use it. A steep learning curve
needed…. :-(

I have a simple set of several HTML pages that I coded in straight
HTML using Notepad.
Could you please give me a few quick pointers as to what I have to do
to get them into .chm format?
I promise that once I have some idea what is going on here I will read
more of the help sites. Right now I feel completely lost. :-)


Pete Lees 02-11-2004 03:45 PM

Re: Offline browsing program
 
Cogito <nospam@nospam.nospam> wrote:

> I have a simple set of several HTML pages that I coded in straight
> HTML using Notepad. Could you please give me a few quick pointers
> as to what I have to do to get them into .chm format?


Here's how to get started:

1) Open HTML Help Workshop and then, on the File menu, select New.

2) In the New dialog, make sure that "Project" is highlighted and then
click OK. This will open the New Project Wizard.

3) In the first page of the wizard, click Next without selecting the
Convert WinHelp Project checkbox.

4) In the second page of the wizard ("New Project -- Destination"),
click the Browse button and then browse to the directory that contains
the source HTML files.

5) In the File Name field at the bottom of the dialog box, type a name
for the help project. This can be anything you like, but keep in mind
that HTML Help Workshop bases the initial name of the help file on
that of the project file. For example, by default, a project file
called "This is a Test Project.hhp" will produce a help file called
"This is a Test Project.chm". Better to go for a short name, without
space characters.

6) Click Open. This will take you back to the "New Project --
Destination" page of the wizard, in which the text field should now be
filled in.

7) Click Next and then, in the "New Project -- Existing Files" page of
the wizard, select the HTML Files checkbox. Click Next again.

8) In the "New Project -- HTML Files" page, click Add and then select
your source HTML files. You can select multiple files by holding down
the SHIFT or CTRL key while you click the file names.

9) Click Open to go back to the "New Project -- HTML Files" page, and
then click Next.

10) Click Finish to close the wizard.

You can now try compiling the help project by selecting Compile on the
File menu. If the help file doesn't automatically display when the
compilation has finished, select Compiled File on the View menu.

You'll probably want to add a table of contents to the help file, and
maybe also an index and full-text search facilities. For instructions
on how to do this, see the accompanying online help and also this very
useful tutorial:

http://www.mvps.org/htmlhelpcenter/h....html#char_hhw

--
Pete (Microsoft Help MVP)

Cogito 02-12-2004 02:47 PM

Re: Offline browsing program
 
On 11 Feb 2004 07:45:56 -0800, PD.Lees@btinternet.com (Pete Lees)
wrote:

>Cogito <nospam@nospam.nospam> wrote:
>
>> I have a simple set of several HTML pages that I coded in straight
>> HTML using Notepad. Could you please give me a few quick pointers
>> as to what I have to do to get them into .chm format?

>
>Here's how to get started:
>
>1) Open HTML Help Workshop and then, on the File menu, select New.
>
>2) In the New dialog, make sure that "Project" is highlighted and then
>click OK. This will open the New Project Wizard.
>
>3) In the first page of the wizard, click Next without selecting the
>Convert WinHelp Project checkbox.
>
>4) In the second page of the wizard ("New Project -- Destination"),
>click the Browse button and then browse to the directory that contains
>the source HTML files.
>
>5) In the File Name field at the bottom of the dialog box, type a name
>for the help project. This can be anything you like, but keep in mind
>that HTML Help Workshop bases the initial name of the help file on
>that of the project file. For example, by default, a project file
>called "This is a Test Project.hhp" will produce a help file called
>"This is a Test Project.chm". Better to go for a short name, without
>space characters.
>
>6) Click Open. This will take you back to the "New Project --
>Destination" page of the wizard, in which the text field should now be
>filled in.
>
>7) Click Next and then, in the "New Project -- Existing Files" page of
>the wizard, select the HTML Files checkbox. Click Next again.
>
>8) In the "New Project -- HTML Files" page, click Add and then select
>your source HTML files. You can select multiple files by holding down
>the SHIFT or CTRL key while you click the file names.
>
>9) Click Open to go back to the "New Project -- HTML Files" page, and
>then click Next.
>
>10) Click Finish to close the wizard.
>
>You can now try compiling the help project by selecting Compile on the
>File menu. If the help file doesn't automatically display when the
>compilation has finished, select Compiled File on the View menu.
>
>You'll probably want to add a table of contents to the help file, and
>maybe also an index and full-text search facilities. For instructions
>on how to do this, see the accompanying online help and also this very
>useful tutorial:
>
>http://www.mvps.org/htmlhelpcenter/h....html#char_hhw




Thank you very much for helping. It would have taken me a month to
read enough to get to this point. I suggest that the help section
should start with this concise description instead of the daunting
volume of text.

I used it to create a .chm file. My next question is: how do I tell
it, which is the starting html file? It seems that instead of starting
(in my case) with index.html it starts with the last (alphabetically)
html file.




Cogito 02-13-2004 03:44 AM

Re: Offline browsing program
 
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 14:47:26 GMT, Cogito <nospam@nospam.nospam> wrote:

>On 11 Feb 2004 07:45:56 -0800, PD.Lees@btinternet.com (Pete Lees)
>wrote:
>
>>Cogito <nospam@nospam.nospam> wrote:
>>
>>> I have a simple set of several HTML pages that I coded in straight
>>> HTML using Notepad. Could you please give me a few quick pointers
>>> as to what I have to do to get them into .chm format?

>>
>>Here's how to get started:
>>
>>1) Open HTML Help Workshop and then, on the File menu, select New.
>>
>>2) In the New dialog, make sure that "Project" is highlighted and then
>>click OK. This will open the New Project Wizard.
>>
>>3) In the first page of the wizard, click Next without selecting the
>>Convert WinHelp Project checkbox.
>>
>>4) In the second page of the wizard ("New Project -- Destination"),
>>click the Browse button and then browse to the directory that contains
>>the source HTML files.
>>
>>5) In the File Name field at the bottom of the dialog box, type a name
>>for the help project. This can be anything you like, but keep in mind
>>that HTML Help Workshop bases the initial name of the help file on
>>that of the project file. For example, by default, a project file
>>called "This is a Test Project.hhp" will produce a help file called
>>"This is a Test Project.chm". Better to go for a short name, without
>>space characters.
>>
>>6) Click Open. This will take you back to the "New Project --
>>Destination" page of the wizard, in which the text field should now be
>>filled in.
>>
>>7) Click Next and then, in the "New Project -- Existing Files" page of
>>the wizard, select the HTML Files checkbox. Click Next again.
>>
>>8) In the "New Project -- HTML Files" page, click Add and then select
>>your source HTML files. You can select multiple files by holding down
>>the SHIFT or CTRL key while you click the file names.
>>
>>9) Click Open to go back to the "New Project -- HTML Files" page, and
>>then click Next.
>>
>>10) Click Finish to close the wizard.
>>
>>You can now try compiling the help project by selecting Compile on the
>>File menu. If the help file doesn't automatically display when the
>>compilation has finished, select Compiled File on the View menu.
>>
>>You'll probably want to add a table of contents to the help file, and
>>maybe also an index and full-text search facilities. For instructions
>>on how to do this, see the accompanying online help and also this very
>>useful tutorial:
>>
>>http://www.mvps.org/htmlhelpcenter/h....html#char_hhw

>
>
>
>Thank you very much for helping. It would have taken me a month to
>read enough to get to this point. I suggest that the help section
>should start with this concise description instead of the daunting
>volume of text.
>
>I used it to create a .chm file. My next question is: how do I tell
>it, which is the starting html file? It seems that instead of starting
>(in my case) with index.html it starts with the last (alphabetically)
>html file.
>
>



I have solved it myself... I feel like an expret now.....

Is it possible to have a 'back' button like in a browser?

Mark Parnell 02-13-2004 03:52 AM

Re: Offline browsing program
 
On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 03:44:09 GMT, Cogito <nospam@nospam.nospam> declared
in alt.html:
>
> Is it possible to have a 'back' button like in a browser?


There is one by default in mine. Though I don't use Help workshop, so
YMMV.

--
Mark Parnell
http://www.clarkecomputers.com.au

rf 02-13-2004 04:25 AM

Re: Offline browsing program
 

"Cogito" <nospam@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:0rho205l1upn5o69ki9sf9a0s42589p944@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 14:47:26 GMT, Cogito <nospam@nospam.nospam> wrote:
>

[compiled help files]
>
>
> I have solved it myself... I feel like an expret now.....


An expret? <grin/>

> Is it possible to have a 'back' button like in a browser?


What are you using to view your .chm file? Don't use the help workshop, use
hh.exe (the standard windows help viewer) which is launched when you double
click the .chm file.

Cheers
Richard.



Cogito 02-13-2004 05:14 AM

Re: Offline browsing program
 
On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 04:25:44 GMT, "rf" <making.it.up@the.time> wrote:

>
>"Cogito" <nospam@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
>news:0rho205l1upn5o69ki9sf9a0s42589p944@4ax.com.. .
>> On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 14:47:26 GMT, Cogito <nospam@nospam.nospam> wrote:
>>

>[compiled help files]
>>
>>
>> I have solved it myself... I feel like an expret now.....

>
>An expret? <grin/>
>


I'm just having fun and feeling good for solving my problem.

>> Is it possible to have a 'back' button like in a browser?

>
>What are you using to view your .chm file? Don't use the help workshop, use
>hh.exe (the standard windows help viewer) which is launched when you double
>click the .chm file.


That's exactly what I do. I double-click on the .chm file and
something starts (hh.exe ? possibly, I don't know). All it has is just
a standard Windows top bar and that's it. Well of course the web page
is there too.


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