Mozilla development to cease
 

Maybe I'm late with the news, but Kim Komando's newsletter had a pointer
to the story. http://tinyurl.com/4zbph

Is it easy to switch to FireFox and Thunderbird? Will Calendar work?
What about the various plugins and extensions?

Re: Mozilla development to cease
 

I just wanted to say that I really don't like this. I started with
Mozilla, and have tried FireFox quite a few times. Every time I do, I
feel as if someone has put a straightjacket on me. So many of the
features and preferences are removed that I feel I no longer have
control of the browser. A thousand little add-ons have to be downloaded
and installed just to get some of that control back. Is there possibly
some middle-ground that can be achieved?

Some friends and I always joke about the need for a checkbox in Windows
that enables/disables bloatware. Since they're dumbing-down the Mozilla
organization's offerings so much, why not give their users that option
to have control in a much more user-friendly way? Isn't that what
FireFox is all about: user friendliness? Does the browser have to be
restricted to lowest-common-denomenator features to still appeal to the
masses? An "allow me to control my browser" checkbox wouldn't force Mom
and Grandma to click it, but it would allow reasonably knowledgeable
users freedom.

I guess I should get to programming instead of complaining up a storm?

William W. Plummer wrote:
> Maybe I'm late with the news, but Kim Komando's newsletter had a pointer
> to the story. http://tinyurl.com/4zbph
>
> Is it easy to switch to FireFox and Thunderbird? Will Calendar work?
> What about the various plugins and extensions?

Re: Mozilla development to cease
 

William W. Plummer wrote:
> Maybe I'm late with the news, but Kim Komando's newsletter had a pointer
> to the story. http://tinyurl.com/4zbph
>
> Is it easy to switch to FireFox and Thunderbird? Will Calendar work?
> What about the various plugins and extensions?

I'm probably going to be using Mozilla for website development for a
while. It works and I'm used to it. What more could I ask?

--
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
Last evening I went the the MoveOn.org meetup thing. They
want everybody to call their Senators in Washington and ask
them to oppose Bush's right wing judicial nominees. They
also want us to say that dumping the filibuster is stupid.

Re: Mozilla development to cease
 

Steven M. Payeur wrote on [Fri, 11 Mar 2005 09:58:18 -0800]:
> I just wanted to say that I really don't like this.

I must agree.

> I started with
> Mozilla, and have tried FireFox quite a few times. Every time I do, I
> feel as if someone has put a straightjacket on me.

Yep

> So many of the
> features and preferences are removed that I feel I no longer have
> control of the browser.

Integration between email and browser so I can email a web page, having
a check for updates to bookmarks option that seems to be removed from
firefox, etc.

Re: Mozilla development to cease
 

Once upon a time *Justin* wrote:

> Steven M. Payeur wrote on [Fri, 11 Mar 2005 09:58:18 -0800]:
>> I just wanted to say that I really don't like this.
>
> I must agree.
>
>> I started with
>> Mozilla, and have tried FireFox quite a few times. Every time I do, I
>> feel as if someone has put a straightjacket on me.
>
> Yep
>
>> So many of the
>> features and preferences are removed that I feel I no longer have
>> control of the browser.
>
> Integration between email and browser so I can email a web page, having
> a check for updates to bookmarks option that seems to be removed from
> firefox, etc.
>

Don't need to have two app's running if I wont to get alerts when new
mails arrives. As I have said in netscape.mozilla.user.general, I will
not use any Mozilla Foundation software in the future if they don't
develope the Suit any more. I'll wait some time for a new unofficial
version (if sutch will come), else I will leave for something else. I
may even start using IE/OE just for the fun of not supporting anything
that smells Mozilla foundation!

--
/Arne

Proud User of Mozilla Suite. Get your free copy here:
*English* http://www.mozilla.org/products/mozilla1.x/
*Svenska* http://www.mozilla.se/mozilla.shtml

Re: Mozilla development to cease
 

William W. Plummer wrote:
> Maybe I'm late with the news, but Kim Komando's newsletter had a pointer
> to the story. http://tinyurl.com/4zbph
>
> Is it easy to switch to FireFox and Thunderbird? Will Calendar work?
> What about the various plugins and extensions?

Well, there is a project being developed to continue the suite. All
might not be lost:

http://wiki.mozilla.org/wiki/SeaMonkey:Home_Page

I don't know where this is going to go, but I can see that continued
development of the suite is better off in the hands of people who really
believe in the concept, instead of being left hanging by people who
clearly don't.

Lee

Re: Mozilla development to cease
 

Tian Harter wrote:
> William W. Plummer wrote:
>
>> Maybe I'm late with the news, but Kim Komando's newsletter had a
>> pointer to the story. http://tinyurl.com/4zbph
>>
>> Is it easy to switch to FireFox and Thunderbird? Will Calendar work?
>> What about the various plugins and extensions?
>
>
> I'm probably going to be using Mozilla for website development for a
> while. It works and I'm used to it. What more could I ask?

Bug fixes and new features.

Re: Mozilla development to cease
 

Mozilla is the web programmer's browser, the techie's browser, the one
who wants a deluge of info's browser, the one that wants their car to
look like a 747's cockpits control's, not a yard tractor's controls. I
love mozilla for that. It makes me feel close to the XPCOM, C++, and JS
inside mozilla, not artsy fruity glazed over sugar coated, easily
digested by the masses thiung that Firefox is. Firefox is annoyingly
easy. I am using firefox 9.2 right now with a IE skin (thats how much I
hate FF), I look in my options menu, there is nothing there, except in
advanced where they ism a unintelligible mess of options which turn to
greek for me very easily. In the Suite's options everything is nicly
organized, and out there, not hidden. Love live the suite.

Re: Mozilla development to cease
 

bulk88@hotmail.com wrote:
> Mozilla is the web programmer's browser, the techie's browser, the one
> who wants a deluge of info's browser, the one that wants their car to
> look like a 747's cockpits control's, not a yard tractor's controls. I
> love mozilla for that. It makes me feel close to the XPCOM, C++, and JS
> inside mozilla, not artsy fruity glazed over sugar coated, easily
> digested by the masses thiung that Firefox is. Firefox is annoyingly
> easy. I am using firefox 9.2 right now with a IE skin (thats how much I
> hate FF), I look in my options menu, there is nothing there, except in
> advanced where they ism a unintelligible mess of options which turn to
> greek for me very easily. In the Suite's options everything is nicly
> organized, and out there, not hidden. Love live the suite.
>

Try the Configuration Mania extension.

Lee

Re: Mozilla development to cease
 

William W. Plummer wrote:
> Maybe I'm late with the news, but Kim Komando's newsletter had a pointer
> to the story. http://tinyurl.com/4zbph
>
> Is it easy to switch to FireFox and Thunderbird? Will Calendar work?
> What about the various plugins and extensions?

Personally, I can't believe Mozilla is give a big "**** you" to the
people who built it. If it weren't for people like me, who have used
the Mozilla suite since it began, FireFox wouldn't exist today.

And I have no plans on using FireFox. I'll use IE before I use that
pile of crap. It's the equivilent of MSN Explorer. Built for brain
dead morons.

All I have to say is **** you too, Mozilla.